2001 worst year in music.

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by The White Tornado


2001 had to be one of the worst years in Music. Nothing stood out, and not too much progress was made. Everything is just too jumbled together and it's hard to define anything in music now. I consider these years the depression years of music. There needs to be a new leader. Someone to stand out and change music. I hope the next Nirvana, Beatles, or Led Zepplin comes along soon to save us from this time of bland music, and era of tastelessness. Even though Rock music in general made a resurgence in 2001, there continues to be par and sub par music, (now that the Pumpkins are gone.). Though everything I have said pertains to all forms of music not just rock (except the last sentence).

To find the most recent best era of music you will have to look back to the early '90s, specificaly '91 and '92. The best era of music died in '94 though, and it went out with a bang durring the '94 woodstock. From '94 there was a downspiral in music (even though there were some great bands still around. It was still going down.). And now it's almost at its worst.

Pray to the music gods people. We need a savior.

I posted this in another thread and I wanted a thread for it so people could tell me what they think of the music situation that is around us these days.

So what do you think about the music situation in 2001? Make your comments in the context of the quote if possible. It doesn't have to do anything with if you like or hate the songs or people.

 

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Originally posted by The White Tornado

I posted this in another thread and I wanted a thread for it so people could tell me what they think of the music situation that is around us these days.

So what do you think about the music situation in 2001? Make your comments in the context of the quote if possible. It doesn't have to do anything with if you like or hate the songs or people.

[rambling]

The early nineties dont rate that high in my book for two reasons:

1. Vanilla Ice
2. Milli Vanilli or whatever those losers where called

Pesonally I dont think that one band is the whole genre(from what I understood, you believe that rock has deteriorated since the demise of the Pumpkins.) it is made up of lots of difffernent bands with there own version of the genre. Sure the pumpkins were a awesome band but they were not the "embodiement"(sp?) if the rock genre.

I really didnt see any problems with the music of today, i actually liked it

[/rambling]

 

[Zero]

Early 90s were good, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, The Black Album my Metallica, great stuff. And I still cant get over Vanilla Ice saying that he didnt steal that beat from Queen he changes a Ding to a Dong

 

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Originally posted by ZeroCool85
Early 90s were good, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, The Black Album my Metallica, great stuff. And I still cant get over Vanilla Ice saying that he didnt steal that beat from Queen he changes a Ding to a Dong

ding da da ding da da ding ding

dong da da dong da da dong dong

sounds the same to me

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by space


[rambling]

The early nineties dont rate that high in my book for two reasons:

1. Vanilla Ice
2. Milli Vanilli or whatever those losers where called

Pesonally I dont think that one band is the whole genre(from what I understood, you believe that rock has deteriorated since the demise of the Pumpkins.) it is made up of lots of difffernent bands with there own version of the genre. Sure the pumpkins were a awesome band but they were not the "embodiement"(sp?) if the rock genre.

I really didnt see any problems with the music of today, i actually liked it

[/rambling]

Actually no. The rock genre started to end before the pumpkins broke up. Noice I said since 1994 there was a down spiral. The Pumpkins didn't break up until 2000. As soon as the grunge era ended is when it started goin down. The disapearence of great bands started to happen (Nirvana ended 94, Sound Garden 97, Alice in chains, Pumpkins 00.). So ya see as soon as the good bands started to break up after 94, there were no good ones to replace them.

And Vanilla Ice was bad, but there were horrible bands before your time, Space. You just don't know too many because either you don't remember them, didn't think they were bad, don't know music, or you are too young to know them.

These days of music have to be as bad as it was back in 88 (when the hair bands met their demise) or in the late 70s (discos death)

when you relly look back on it, it is as bad as ever.

I just hope there is something on the horizon. If music history teaches anything it's that a music revolution comes about every ten years. So if 94 can be a definitive year in the demise of a culture, then in a few years we should see something come out that changes the world.

 

[Klostrophobic]

I'd say Tool is a fine replacement for the lack of good rock out there. A perfect Circle is also very excellent, in fact anything Maynard james Keenan touches turns out fricken awesome.

This year did suck in terms of music, and I don't see it getting any better as long as people still like Blink 182, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, and all those other ****ty bands.

 

[The White Tornado]

Tool is good, and A perfect circle too. But there aren't a ton of bands around from the golden age in the early 90's. And the ones that are around aren't puttin out their best music ever.

And its not even that Linkin Park is bad either (even though I don't like em.). They still aren't original as no one really is anymore. Even though pop iss still hot (IMO it sucks ass) it isn't original. Janet has created every song by a pop artist, basically. If Britney Spears has done it, then Janet Jackson has allready done it. Every music genre stinks this past year. Bland and boring.

 

[The White Tornado]

BTW is Primus still around? They were good too.

 

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Originally posted by The White Tornado
Actually no. The rock genre started to end before the pumpkins broke up. Noice I said since 1994 there was a down spiral. The Pumpkins didn't break up until 2000. As soon as the grunge era ended is when it started goin down. The disapearence of great bands started to happen (Nirvana ended 94, Sound Garden 97, Alice in chains, Pumpkins 00.). So ya see as soon as the good bands started to break up after 94, there were no good ones to replace them.

And Vanilla Ice was bad, but there were horrible bands before your time, Space. You just don't know too many because either you don't remember them, didn't think they were bad, don't know music, or you are too young to know them.

These days of music have to be as bad as it was back in 88 (when the hair bands met their demise) or in the late 70s (discos death)

when you relly look back on it, it is as bad as ever.

I just hope there is something on the horizon. If music history teaches anything it's that a music revolution comes about every ten years. So if 94 can be a definitive year in the demise of a culture, then in a few years we should see something come out that changes the world.

Didnt the pumpkins break up 3 times or so? one of the original band members left, then the band replaced him, then other left, replaced also, then the whole band just called it quits.

And quit refering to me like i'm 4 "before my time" your making it sound like your my elder and i should respect you Sure i know there were terrible bands: posion,(most of the hair bands for that matter) boy george, the village people, etc etc.

In the late 70's and 80's, just because disco was dying and so was glam metal, doesnt mean the music was terrible then. throughout that death of those type of music, you had aerosmith, the rolling stones, ac-dc, GNR, metallica etc etc, still turning out music, adn it was good music too.

Now i'm not saying that a new revolution isnt coming in the music industry, i just dont agree with what you are saying about the music today

 

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Originally posted by The White Tornado
BTW is Primus still around? They were good too.

dunno, i havent heard about them in along time

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by space


Didnt the pumpkins break up 3 times or so? one of the original band members left, then the band replaced him, then other left, replaced also, then the whole band just called it quits.

And quit refering to me like i'm 4 "before my time" your making it sound like your my elder and i should respect you Sure i know there were terrible bands: posion,(most of the hair bands for that matter) boy george, the village people, etc etc.

In the late 70's and 80's, just because disco was dying and so was glam metal, doesnt mean the music was terrible then. throughout that death of those type of music, you had aerosmith, the rolling stones, ac-dc, GNR, metallica etc etc, still turning out music, adn it was good music too.

Now i'm not saying that a new revolution isnt coming in the music industry, i just dont agree with what you are saying about the music today

"Didnt the pumpkins break up 3 times or so? one of the original band members left, then the band replaced him, then other left, replaced also, then the whole band just called it quits."

First their drummer died from drug abuse in 96, then Their next drummer was kicked out because of drugs, then D'arcy was caught with drugs, then the old drummer was allowed back in after rehab, then D'arcy left the band even after her drug ordeal was over, then Mellisa joined and they broke up in 00. But they only broke up once.



"And quit refering to me like i'm 4 "before my time" your making it sound like your my elder and i should respect you "

What, did you just skip over the other reasons I gave for you not knowing the older music ? You seemed to pick out that specific one when I listed 5 or more possible reasons.


"i just dont agree with what you are saying about the music today"


I know, and I understand too.

 

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Originally posted by The White Tornado


"Didnt the pumpkins break up 3 times or so? one of the original band members left, then the band replaced him, then other left, replaced also, then the whole band just called it quits."

First their drummer died from drug abuse in 96, then Their next drummer was kicked out because of drugs, then D'arcy was caught with drugs, then the old drummer was allowed back in after rehab, then D'arcy left the band even after her drug ordeal was over, then Mellisa joined and they broke up in 00. But they only broke up once.



"And quit refering to me like i'm 4 "before my time" your making it sound like your my elder and i should respect you "

What, did you just skip over the other reasons I gave for you not knowing the older music ? You seemed to pick out that specific one when I listed 5 or more possible reasons.


"i just dont agree with what you are saying about the music today"


I know, and I understand too.

When orginal memebers leave, that's a break up to me. Look at GNR now, are they still GNR? no, their not worthy of the name GNR, unless the orginal members are in the band. so to me the pumpkin's broke up after the second drummer spilt

No i didnt skip over the other reasons, they were invalid.
I remeber alot of bad bands(can you even forget a bad band?), i'm sure there are a few bad bands that i like, but for the most part i didnt like the bad bands. Also, i'm not worthy of the music geek title on "beat the Geeks" but i know some stuff about music, and i'm old enough to remeber most of the bad bands of the 80's and the 90's

I'm glad we see eye to eye on todays music

 

[mayorbill11_]

metallica has gone downhill, imo, since the black album, songs like "the memory remains", "until it sleeps", and "whiskey in the jar" are okay songs, but overall metallica just isnt what it used to be, the days of master of puppets, and the black album, the mid eighties to the early ninties was good.

nirvana is one of my favourite bands, some people say its was good that it "ended" when it did, cause they went out at the top, i say they were almost at the top, and were cut short, its too bad.

soundgarden was good, but i havent followed them much.

its true that the music isnt that great now, nickelback is good, but i dont like much else, the offspring is good, but i dont think they've released anything in a few years.

ozzy was good before, i dont know about the crap he's releasing now.

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by space


When orginal memebers leave, that's a break up to me. Look at GNR now, are they still GNR? no, their not worthy of the name GNR, unless the orginal members are in the band. so to me the pumpkin's broke up after the second drummer spilt

No i didnt skip over the other reasons, they were invalid.
I remeber alot of bad bands(can you even forget a bad band?), i'm sure there are a few bad bands that i like, but for the most part i didnt like the bad bands. Also, i'm not worthy of the music geek title on "beat the Geeks" but i know some stuff about music, and i'm old enough to remeber most of the bad bands of the 80's and the 90's

I'm glad we see eye to eye on todays music

Officially (I forget who made this rule), as long as you have two original members, you haven't broken up, and you can still keep the band name. But if you have only 1 member left, you must choose a different name. Lynard (sp) Skynard band had a problem like this when a good number of the original band members were killed in a plane crash, and they had to fight to keep the band name.

 

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Originally posted by The White Tornado
Officially (I forget who made this rule), as long as you have two original members, you haven't broken up, and you can still keep the band name. But if you have only 1 member left, you must choose a different name. Lynard (sp) Skynard band had a problem like this when a good number of the original band members were killed in a plane crash, and they had to fight to keep the band name.

only 3 of the skynrd band members died in the crash

 

[mayorbill11_]

kurt cobain had bands with tons of different names, stupid names, heh, like fecal matter, etc...

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by mayorbill11
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nirvana is one of my favourite bands, some people say its was good that it "ended" when it did, cause they went out at the top, i say they were almost at the top, and were cut short, its too bad.

soundgarden was good, but i havent followed them much.

Didn't you say that about Nirvana over at the GTF?

And sound garden put out some good stuff. Black Hole sun, Pretty Noose, The day I tried to live. Great songs.

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by space


only 3 of the skynrd band members died in the crash

Yeah but recently (in the last year or so) another member died. And weren't there two plane crashes?

 

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Originally posted by The White Tornado
Yeah but recently (in the last year or so) another member died. And weren't there two plane crashes?

I believe there where 10 or so member is the the band at the time of the crash in '77. Now i dont know what happened between '77 and now, but i dont think the members all split. And there was only one crash, in 77.

 

[mayorbill11_]

Originally posted by The White Tornado
Didn't you say that about Nirvana over at the GTF?

b campbell said it was a good time for it to end.

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by space


I believe there where 10 or so member is the the band at the time of the crash in '77. Now i dont know what happened between '77 and now, but i dont think the members all split. And there was only one crash, in 77.

hehe I just had to keep that re thing going at the top of the post.

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by mayorbill11


b campbell said it was a good time for it to end.

Oh yeah.

 

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Originally posted by The White Tornado


hehe I just had to keep that re thing going at the top of the post.

you mean this?

So mayorbill, we've been here awhile and no playlist thread yet?

 

[Klostrophobic]

Music hasn't been the same since Buddy Holly died.

Don't ask why I would know.

 

[Giancarlo]

2001 was just fine for music........ that's when Sum 41's "All Killer No Filler" came out.

 

[Klostrophobic]

Ugh, you can't be serious.

Does the fact that Sum 41 is pure crap live give you any indication that they aren't any good?

Just look their name, it is a total ripoff of Blink 182 {if not, please explain why to me.]

It really isn't that they suck arse, but that they have nothign original. Everything they sing has already been done.

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
It really isn't that they suck arse, but that they have nothign original. Everything they sing has already been done.

I didn't care for the other stuff you said, but I'm glad you made that point. The only accomplishment, I guess you could say, they made is to bring punk into the mainstream a little bit more.

 

[Giancarlo]

That's ok, it's your opinion, and your entitled to it.

I like their music, simple as that.

 

[Giancarlo]

BTW, they are a new band, so it's understandable they aren't very good live. They're not absolutely used to it yet. Just stating facts! *backs off*

 

[The White Tornado]

I like some of their stuff. I just have a different view of their contributions to changing music.