2003: Runners and Riders

GilesGuthrie

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Well, the 2003 season currently stands at the following:

Ferrari: Michael Schumacher, Rubens Barrichello
Williams: Juan-Pablo Montoya, Ralf Schumacher
McLaren: David Coulthard, Kimi Raikkonen
Renault: Jarno Trulli, Fernando Alonso
Sauber: Nick Heidfeld, Heinz-Harald Frentzen
Jordan: Now confirmed: Giancarlo Fisichella, Ralph Firman
Jaguar: Mark Webber and Antonio Pizzonia
BAR: Jacques Villeneuve, Jenson Button
Toyota: Panis and da Matta
Minardi: Now confirmed: Justin Wilson and Jos Verstappen
Arrows: one team entry available
Prost/Phoenix: one team entry available

As mentioned, Eddie Jordan said in a recent on-line chat that Takuma Sato has a contract for next year. I think that overall he deserves a drive for next year (there is a poll on this at my Fantasy F1 site). EJ is, however, basically accusing corporate Japan of forsaking their best hope for talent, so he could obviously do with a bob or two. I had heard that Honda were willing to 'sub' Sato to the tune of $6m - I wonder if they too are forsaking him.

EJ also said that he had had no real contact with Irvine, and that there was no truth to the rumour that Jordan were pursuing him. Obviously this does not mean that there's definitely no deal, but I for one think that Irvine is not only a waste of an F1 place, but actually a waste of space in general, and would breathe a hearty sigh of relief were he to 'retire'. A lot of people say he's a breath of fresh air, and he's always willing to speak his mind in these PR-obsessed times, but the fact of the matter is that while he does speak a lot, he rarely makes any sense. And as my mother used to say "If you don't have anything sensible to say, don't say anything".

At Jaguar, Irvine is definitely out of contract, and the team have about as clearly as possible stated that they're not interested in him next year. However, it now looks likely that they may do a volte-face on this one, and re-hire him, which would, I believe, be an over-account of his recent run of good fortune. They have Pedro de la Rosa on contract, but he recently stated on his personal web site that he had a contract and that was that, which in F1 parlance is equivalent to issuing a press release saying "I've been fired, and the team are a bunch of b******s".

Toyota have Panis under contract, and are more than likely to give Christiano da Matta a drive for next season. This looks like a marketing/guilt decision as he has delivered them the ChampCar title this year, only for them to pull out of the sport. Nonetheless, despite CdM's denials, I think he's on his way.

That leaves the two vacant team slots (I think it's fair to say that Arrows will not make it next year), and Jaguar and Minardi to sort out. I think Jaguar should hire Webber, especially now after Minardi have released him, and should keep de la Rosa on board, unless Eddie is telling the truth about DLR's lack of development skill. However, this is unlikely, and who better is there? There really isn't anyone experienced enough to take on the role of team leader, or development leader, apart from the wild card that is Allan McNish. All the others, Pizzonia, Davidson, Courtney can't give Jaguar what they need. Can Eddie? Well he hasn't thus far, has he? They should have gone for Panis!

Minardi will sign who ever brings the largest cheque.

Thoughts?
 
I'll be a shame if Irvine doesn't get a drive in F1 (even with Jaguar), but I think it may come down to testing and a little break before testing resumes. He may have had enough of Jaguar's crap and may take a sabbatical of his own.

Who knows? Someone may retire, someone's sponsor may fall though, and any sort of thing may happen to shuffle the seats in F1.
 
This is very curious - particulary with Stoddart coming out and saying even though Webber was out of contract that there was a seat for him - Verstappen and Webber would be a pretty fair line up!

Seriously though - I can't see why Jaguar wouldn't pick up Webber. He's young, cheap, and for a guy facing his second season, he's got a hell of a CV, including a pretty impressive test year for Benetton. He's consistent, doesn't bend cars, and is quick.

Sato started to show some of his talent towards the end of the year, and contrary to popular thought he's actually not familiar with Suzuka, as he'd done all of his junior formula racing in Europe. Eddie would do well to keep him - he'd be cheap, and with some points under his belt I think will be a lot more relaxed next year.

Look I'll admit it - I have no idea how this will pan out. grandprix.com posted an article last week suggesting the driver market was being held up by one big annoucement - and that might be Villeneuve.

Blowed if I know...
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Look I'll admit it - I have no idea how this will pan out. grandprix.com posted an article last week suggesting the driver market was being held up by one big annoucement - and that might be Villeneuve.

There doesn't seem to have been much movement recently. However, Villeneuve was confirmed at Suzuka. Only 1 year though I think.
 
Originally posted by Talentless
does he ever impersonate ali? eddie: "i am so pretty. I am the greatest."

Absolutely. The only difference is that Ali was the greatest. Eddie was never more than a jumped up leprechaun.
 
better watch it or he might throw some charms at you, and i don't mean the magical and delicious kind.
 
"They're always after me Lucky Charms..."

I thought the Webber-Jaguar contract was a done deal?
 
Originally posted by pupik
I thought the Webber-Jaguar contract was a done deal?

It certainly seemed that way, but then it all went quiet, and it seemed as though the deal was off. I think we're just going to need to wait and see.
 
This week's Autosport suggests that indeed the Webber/Jaguar deal is done, and that de la Rosa continues to be under threat from Pizzonia.

It also suggests that Honda have £3.5m to give to Sato to keep him in F1, and that Christiano da Matta's Toyota deal is being held up by difficulties in releasing him from Newman-Haas. It suggests that in the event of the da Matta deal falling through, the team will look for another Brazilian, with Helio Castroneves and Felipe Massa the likely candidates. Apparently Massa is destined for a Ferrari test role.
 
TOYOTA SIGN DA MATTA
2002-11-02 13:59:00
Cart champion Cristiano da Matta will join Olivier Panis at Toyota next year, it has been revealed.

The BBC have confirmed that the deal, that has long been muted, has been completed.

The sticking point has been Da Matta’s current contract with the American Newman-Haas Cart team. But it was also Da Matta himself who has thought long and hard about the decision.

Last week he explained that he had received an offer and was weighing it up. He follows Jacques Villeneuve and Juan Pablo Montoya as former Cart champions moving to F1.

It leaves just the Minardi drives up for grabs for next year, aside from the possibility of Takuma Sato being ousted from Jordan.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
At Jaguar, ... they have Pedro de la Rosa on contract, but he recently stated on his personal web site that he had a contract and that was that, which in F1 parlance is equivalent to issuing a press release saying "I've been fired, and the team are a bunch of b******s".

... and people said I was cynical for saying this!
 
Finally, the last piece falls into place, with Jordan announcing that their second driver for 2003 will be Ralph Firman.

Firman made his name in the Junior Formulae, and was 1993's McLaren/Autosport/BRDC Young Driver of the year. He stalled somewhat in F3000, and then went to Japan, to compete in Formula Nippon, which is the Japanese version of F3. He struggled for a while there, but after changing to the PIAA Nakajima team, and changing chassis, he won the 2002 Formula Nippon title.

He seems like a decent enough lad, and a fairly good peddler. It'll be interesting to see how he goes, and what new sponsors the Jordan has as a result.

The McLaren/Autosport/BRDC Young Driver of the Year award has been quite successful in placing drivers in the top championships.
 
i predicted firman with the more experience than massa would get the seat. should help later in the year. he is also more mature.
 
Originally posted by advanR
i predicted firman with the more experience than massa would get the seat. should help later in the year. he is also more mature.

Call me cynical, but I believe Firman got the nod over Massa because Massa's sponsor Red Bull decided to sign with Sauber rather than Jordan. So Firman's lesser budgetary contribution suddenly looked more attractive to EJ.
 
I also read that the brazilian government needs to look after red bulls spending or something like that. And the 3 million or whatever that jordan needed was being held up by them.

I dont remember it, but think it is bosted up at f1live.
 
Ooh Wastegate, you ARE a cynic. You'll fit right in in the F1 Forum! Don't forget that Firman is British, which means EJ can screw more money out of Benson & Hedges, who want a Brit in the team. I'm not sure that the Red Bull/Jordan tie up was anything more than a red herring - something tells me that EJ's just not ready to relinquish control just yet, and that means there would be no point in Maetsich (sp) investing in the team.

And AdvanR, Firman is more worldly-wise than Massa, and Massa is a kamikaze pilot, but a year's experience in F1 has to count for something. But somehow I never really thought that Massa would get the job.
 
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