2007 GTR, EVO IX, 2006 audi S4, 2007 supra. Pics and info inside!

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Hi I dont know if you have seen the new GTR, evo, and supra but I have not untill today. I just got my new Sport compact car mag and there they were. I scaned the 5 pages and here they are.

cover,
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page 2
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page 4
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page 5
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2007 GTR concept,
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I wish they hade these in GT4 but o well they will be in GT5. I posted this on ign.com as well
 
Notice how the supra is exactly the same as the Lexus LF-A concept in another thread...Also, that S4...:drool:
 
I still say they never should have droped the RB. The VQ block is so heavy. with turbochargers and AWD, man that thing is probably going to weigh in close to 2 tons.
 
Agreed. But remember, the last skyline was AWD and was much bigger, so in theory this should be lighter. And, shorter wheelbase = lighter driveshaft. May not count for much but it would probaby save at least 100 lb's, and don't forget that the Skyline was never much of a performer, it was always a luxury sport sedan with a ****load of potential. The old 2JZ was like that, it could easily take on 1000hp.
 
PublicSecrecy
Agreed. But remember, the last skyline was AWD and was much bigger, so in theory this should be lighter. And, shorter wheelbase = lighter driveshaft. May not count for much but it would probaby save at least 100 lb's, and don't forget that the Skyline was never much of a performer, it was always a luxury sport sedan with a ****load of potential. The old 2JZ was like that, it could easily take on 1000hp.
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The Skyline not a performer? What are you smoking? :odd:
 
You guys are getting way to worked up about this. The car isn't going to weigh 4000lbs, that won't happen. Hell, the new M5 is barely 4k, and its a big 4dr sedan with a V10 underhood. The new GT-R will weigh around 3600, if you ask me. If you look at the specs of the 350Z and G35, which its based on, you'll see they weigh between 3150lbs for a 350Z and 3500lbs for the G35. Now, the G35 is heavier because of a little longer wheelbase and is much more luxo trimmed inside with leather and power everything. And, not to point the finger at anyone, but the G35 is actually BIGGER than the R34. Its an inch wider, an inch longer, 8" more wheelbase, and an inch taller. So, it is a bigger car.

The thing it will have going for it, also against what you guys have been talking about, is that the VQ engines are aluminum block/aluminum head engines. As opposed to the RB26, which was a cast iron block with aluminum head. So, the VQ is no heavyweight, and even with turbos and intercoolers, should be well within spec for the RB26 for weight. And, AWD and turbos to the car shouldn't add THAT much to the car. Going from FWD to AWD on a DSM only adds about 175lbs. On a new A4, going from FWD to Quattro only adds 150lbs. So, the weight is minimal. You also have to think about what the car will have in it. The G35 weighing in at 3500lbs has a full leather/luxo interior. The GT-R will almost certainly have cloth, very few luxo items, and probably use carbon-fiber body panels in spots to lessen the weight some more. It won't be a lightweight, by any means, but its not going to hit 4000lbs. Like I said, I'm guessing around 3600lbs, even with a VQ, two turbos, intercoolers, and AWD.

Hilg
 
Actually, the all out speed and performance of the GT-R wasn't really what made it great. It wasn't real quick, kinda heavy, handled ok, and was only decently fast around a track. BUT, what made it great, was how well it did ALL those things at once. Sure, there are faster, better handling cars out there. But, what the GT-R could do stock was amazing. And, with all the electronics involved in making it go, just about anyone could drive one fast. Those things, along with the enormous potential the car had, are what made the car special. But, yea, on all-out performance, it really was just OK.

Hilg
 
McLaren'sAngel
Hiya! :D :embarrassed: :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

I am still dissapointed with Toyota's new supercar look though! :yuck:
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Me too, but that's why we have Audi S4s with 5.0-liter 400+ horsepower V8s! :sly: :D

I still hope they come out with a convertible version for it. 💡 :D
 
The car I'm most excited to see, if it ever appears, is the long-rumored RS8. They've had an S8 before, but never an RS8. And, with all the new big-dog 65-AMG cars, a big power RS8 would be a kick ass piece for some competition. Probably will never happen, we'll have to just live with S8, but it would be sweet. The new RS4 or RS6, which ever we get of the new cars, should be sweet though, and one will surely show up.

Hilg
 
JNasty4G63
The car I'm most excited to see, if it ever appears, is the long-rumored RS8. They've had an S8 before, but never an RS8. And, with all the new big-dog 65-AMG cars, a big power RS8 would be a kick ass piece for some competition. Probably will never happen, we'll have to just live with S8, but it would be sweet. The new RS4 or RS6, which ever we get of the new cars, should be sweet though, and one will surely show up.

Hilg
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Alas, there is no S8 currently sold for the new body style A8. It's either a 4.2-liter 330-hp V8 or a 6.0-liter W12. Maybe the new S8 will get the same twin-turbo W12 that's in the Continental GT (albeit slightly detuned to about 500hp even), to go up against the S600?

Either way, if that doesn't happen...

There's still the 400-hp 5.0-liter V8-powered S4 sedan (and hopefully convertible)! :lol:
 
MrktMkr1986
Alas, there is no S8 currently sold for the new body style A8. It's either a 4.2-liter 330-hp V8 or a 6.0-liter W12. Maybe the new S8 will get the same twin-turbo W12 that's in the Continental GT (albeit slightly detuned to about 500hp even), to go up against the S600?
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Thats what I'm saying. The old S8 was great. I've seen a few, great powerful cruiser. And, they've talked about an S8 version for the new chassis. But, they've been hinting for a long time that they might make an RS8 version. As I said, I think with all the new AMG bombers, an RS8 would be a great competitor. Sure, it would be very low production and expensive, like the AMG cars, but it would be sweet. And, yes, if its RS from Audi, it will have turbos. And the TT-W12 is a logical piece to use.

The new S4 is nice, but we will be getting an RS4 or RS6 shortly. One of them will show to keep the RS lineage going. I'm betting on an RS6 to be a top for the new M5. A new RS4 would be nice, but the standard S4 is fairly good competition for the M3 as is, let alone with more power. Even when the new M3 shows with its new V8, the S4 will be competitive. So, I'm guessing the next RS will be a 550hp-ish RS6.

Hilg
 
The new S4 looks good, everything else looks more or less like it does now.
Except the Toyota; those aren't new pictures and it isn't a Supra. Also, it may be a V8, depending on what Toyota's new F1 engine will be.
 
JNasty4G63
Thats what I'm saying. The old S8 was great. I've seen a few, great powerful cruiser. And, they've talked about an S8 version for the new chassis. But, they've been hinting for a long time that they might make an RS8 version. As I said, I think with all the new AMG bombers, an RS8 would be a great competitor. Sure, it would be very low production and expensive, like the AMG cars, but it would be sweet. And, yes, if its RS from Audi, it will have turbos. And the TT-W12 is a logical piece to use.

The new S4 is nice, but we will be getting an RS4 or RS6 shortly. One of them will show to keep the RS lineage going. I'm betting on an RS6 to be a top for the new M5. A new RS4 would be nice, but the standard S4 is fairly good competition for the M3 as is, let alone with more power. Even when the new M3 shows with its new V8, the S4 will be competitive. So, I'm guessing the next RS will be a 550hp-ish RS6.

Hilg
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That's sounds pretty cool. But when you were talking about the 550hp-ish RS6, what engine do you think they will use in that car a twin-turbo 4.2 V8 like last time or a twin-turbo W12?
 
MrktMkr1986
That's sounds pretty cool. But when you were talking about the 550hp-ish RS6, what engine do you think they will use in that car a twin-turbo 4.2 V8 like last time or a twin-turbo W12?
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Well, heres how I've heard things shaking out......

The pics that you guys are talking about here are actually whats rumored to be the new RS4. The new S4, when it shows, will run the 340hp 4.2 V8 from the A6, like it does now. The RS4 will have a higher tune version of that motor, probably still 4.2L, but making 420hp. This engine will be the S6 engine when it arrives. The new RS6 that they've also been talking about, might actually be using a version of the Gallardo V10. This would obviously match it up well with the M5. And since they've got the engine in house, and its already running AWD, they are already that far ahead of the game. Not sure of that one totally, but with the new M5 going V10, I wouldn't count it out. So, to recap.....

S4 - 340hp 4.2L V8 (from A6 and A8)
RS4 - 420hp 4.2L V8 (from S6)
S6 - 420hp 4.2L V8 (same as RS4)
RS6 - 500+hp 5.2L FSI V10 (based from Gallardo, still a ????? on engine. but car should arrive)
S8 - 500+hp W12 or V10 (high tune current W12, or same as above V10)
RS8 - 600+hp TT-W12 (this is still a ?????)

We'll have to wait and see how this all pans out, but I don't see any problems with those choices. They have the engines to work with, and they have the competition to go up against. Its up to them as to what they think should be built. I love Audi though, so whatever they do is fine by me. Oh, and by the way, your much wanted A4 and S4 Cabrio will surface later this year or early '06 as the new '07 A5 Coupe and Cabrio. You're wish has been granted. :dopey: :lol: ;)

Hilg
 
JNasty4G63
Well, heres how I've heard things shaking out......

The pics that you guys are talking about here are actually whats rumored to be the new RS4. The new S4, when it shows, will run the 340hp 4.2 V8 from the A6, like it does now. The RS4 will have a higher tune version of that motor, probably still 4.2L, but making 420hp. This engine will be the S6 engine when it arrives. The new RS6 that they've also been talking about, might actually be using a version of the Gallardo V10. This would obviously match it up well with the M5. And since they've got the engine in house, and its already running AWD, they are already that far ahead of the game. Not sure of that one totally, but with the new M5 going V10, I wouldn't count it out. So, to recap.....

S4 - 340hp 4.2L V8 (from A6 and A8)
RS4 - 420hp 4.2L V8 (from S6)
S6 - 420hp 4.2L V8 (same as RS4)
RS6 - 500+hp 5.2L FSI V10 (based from Gallardo, still a ????? on engine. but car should arrive)
S8 - 500+hp W12 or V10 (high tune current W12, or same as above V10)
RS8 - 600+hp TT-W12 (this is still a ?????)

We'll have to wait and see how this all pans out, but I don't see any problems with those choices. They have the engines to work with, and they have the competition to go up against. Its up to them as to what they think should be built. I love Audi though, so whatever they do is fine by me.
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Very detailed... thanks! 👍

JNasty4G63
Oh, and by the way, your much wanted A4 and S4 Cabrio will surface later this year or early '06 as the new '07 A5 Coupe and Cabrio. You're wish has been granted. :dopey: :lol: ;)

Hilg
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YES!!! :drool: 👍 :D :cool: :bowdown: :cheers:
 
No prob :cool: :D

I can't wait to see these cars either. Should be interesting with this big crazy German power war going on. I like them all for different reasons, so I hope they all keep making these crazy machines. What a nice time we live in now in the performance car world. You have Vettes and Vipers with 500hp, Caddy making cool stuff again, the Germans going power crazy, the GTI coming back, supercars actually selling and becoming liveable, SUVs with 450+hp, and so on, and so on...........what a time we live in. 👍 👍 👍 👍

Hilg
 
JNasty4G63
No prob :cool: :D

I can't wait to see these cars either. Should be interesting with this big crazy German power war going on. I like them all for different reasons, so I hope they all keep making these crazy machines. What a nice time we live in now in the performance car world. You have Vettes and Vipers with 500hp, Caddy making cool stuff again, the Germans going power crazy, the GTI coming back, supercars actually selling and becoming liveable, SUVs with 450+hp, and so on, and so on...........what a time we live in. 👍 👍 👍 👍

Hilg
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I agree. As far as the German power war is concerned, soon we'll see 7.3-liter (Zonda C12S motor) twin-turbo, 1000 horsepower beasts from M-B. :D

There is a twin-turbo kit for the Viper that can bring it up to either 800 or 1000hp! :D

The XLR is the best looking Cadillac ever (aside from the '72 Eldorado in my opinion). :sly:

The Cayenne twin-turbo's engine has to go into another car in order for that engine to be profitable for Porsche. So I'm thinking a 928 will be in the works soon... 💡

And like you said, what a time we live in! 👍 👍 👍 👍
 
Just picked up this months Max Power and dunno if anyones said this (scanned through saw nothing) but the Supra shown is pretty heavly modified and has a 'bad boy' style bonnet that partially covers the lights. The actually head lamps are very similar to Toyota's current model MR2. They look pretty good without the wanky bonnet.

They showed pics of the turbo RX8 which "redlines at 9000 rpm, has 362bhp and hits 60 in 5 secs". It looks hot.

Also shown is the Evo X. Looks pretty similar to the current Evo rally car, very rounded and concepty. Not that great, but then no Evo has been good since the VI ;)

That GTR looks rubbish imo. Bring back the good ol' GTR styling please!
 
MrktMkr1986
.....soon we'll see 7.3-liter (Zonda C12S motor) twin-turbo, 1000 horsepower beasts from M-B. :D
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Well, I don't think we'll see them get THAT high, but I wouldn't doubt 700hp or so showing up. And anyway, those cars are so low production, its just basically for fun.
MrktMkr1986
There is a twin-turbo kit for the Viper that can bring it up to either 800 or 1000hp! :D
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Well, I was talking about stock power, but yea. The new Viper is a nice piece, and the new GTS coupe is very nice looking. Whenever a Hennesey version of the new GTS shows up, I'm sure it will be amazing.
MrktMkr1986
The XLR is the best looking Cadillac ever (aside from the '72 Eldorado in my opinion). :sly:
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Yea, the XLR is nice, but the Cimmaron gets my vote. :dopey: :dopey:
Just kidding. I agree. I really like the new edgy-sleek look they have going on. And, they finally have some good performance models to give the brand some speed cred. Kind of funny how they can do so bad with the LMP car back in 2000, but still get the brand going in that direction enough that its working great now. And, with the great work the pulled of in the World Challenge with the CTS-V, its only getting better.
MrktMkr1986
The Cayenne twin-turbo's engine has to go into another car in order for that engine to be profitable for Porsche. So I'm thinking a 928 will be in the works soon... 💡
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That is the word these days. There have been talks of Porsche building a front engine 4-seat coupe with a V8 underhood. Good competition for cars like the XK8 and new BMW 6-series. I think the Cayenne has proved that not everything from Porsche needs to be small and nimble to sell. The Cayenne is the best selling Porsche model ever, and its an SUV. Now is a perfect time to bring back a nice 2+2 coupe and grow the brand even more.

Hilg
 
AFIAK, the Zonda's 7.3 engine is based off the last generation of M-B's V12's. The new generation started in the CL600, had a change in displacement and some turbos thrown on, and then appeared in the Maybach, the newer CL/S/SL - 600s and 65 AMGs. Just as the current AMG V8s will soon be replaced by Merc's new-gen four-valve V8's (similar to how the new 3.5L V6 is replacing the old three-valve V6). I wouldn't expect Mercedes to go back to an older design, nor do I expect them to go any further than 750hp for their next generation of top-line AMG's. Not that they need to bring along more power anyways; they should try focusing on handling the power first.
 
AMG have said before that the only thing stopping them from making cars with over 1000hp is that tyres are not advancing fast enough with other car technology. Isnt there a CL600 AMG with 670 something horsepower out already?

Also is there any news of a coupe version of the A4 and if the upcoming RS4 will be availabe in sedan form aswell?.

Any1 have any news about mercedes swithcin its whole car line up to rear wheel drive on future models to keep up with BMW in driveability? :sly:
 
Yep and yep it is H.O.T.

If i had £20-£25k to throw around though i'd wait for the Astra VXR.. although 300bhp in a hatch is a nice thought.
 

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