2014 NASCAR Thread

[Earth]

Who is jealous, I'm pretty sure none of us are but thanks for the psuedo righteous soap box trite.

Im an empath, so I cant help but notice. In this particular situation, I likely know you better then you know yourself.

 

[RACECAR]

Maybe he's supposed to be future Brad

Definitely not even close, but I'm not really bothered (mostly because dat ass).


Come to think of it, have we ever had a NASCAR game where the Drivers looked correct?

 

[Jahgee]

Maybe he's supposed to be future Brad

Definitely not even close, but I'm not really bothered (mostly because dat ass).


Come to think of it, have we ever had a NASCAR game where the Drivers looked correct?

For it's time, the PS2 NASCAR Thunder games look pretty good

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Im an empath, so I cant help but notice. In this particular situation, I likely know you better then you know yourself.

You're a buffoon, and how is me being honest a form of jealousy? I really don't think he's a good looking guy and his looks scare me, call me shallow but I'm far from jealous.

 

[Earth]

You're a buffoon, and how is me being honest a form of jealousy? I really don't think he's a good looking guy and his looks scare me, call me shallow but I'm far from jealous.

Jealous and low self-esteem. Shallow is a term someone might use in this instance in order to claim freedom from personal shortcomings in their own personality. Shallow you are not. Ugly and unhappy on the inside you are.

Someone who is unhappy with who they are feels the need to put others down to build themselves up. This is especially the case with celebrities whose status the media elevates. Its nothing new, I've seen such behavior even in my own family. I see unattractive people all the time. Only those lacking self-esteem take time out of their lives to put them down. Jealousy - "Keselowski is rich and famous, but I think hes ugly, so theres one thing I have over him. I can sleep better at night now."

My advice? Dont be a statistic.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Jealous and low self-esteem. Shallow is a term someone might use in this instance in order to claim freedom from personal shortcomings in their own personality. Shallow you are not. Ugly and unhappy on the inside you are.

So me an everyone that made a comment have low self-esteem? If anything it's ego that allows me to say what I've just said and thus being shallow. I'm not unhappy at all and it's quite a large leap to make such a call especially over the internet, but you're doing what you do best not knowing what the hell your talking about and hoping it sticks. Sarcasm or not it's neither good which ever way you spin it.

Someone who is unhappy with who they are feels the need to put others down to build themselves up. This is especially the case with celebrities whose status the media elevates. Its nothing new, I've seen such behavior even in my own family. I see unattractive people all the time. Only those lacking self-esteem take time out of their lives to put them down. Jealousy - "Keselowski is rich and famous, but I think hes ugly, so theres one thing I have over him. I can sleep better at night now."

My advice? Dont be a statistic.

I'm not putting anyone down, I just don't think BK looks good, and you still didn't answer my question you just performed more prophetic righteous trite. Also I'm not calling him bad looking because he's rich and famous...I'm saying he doesn't look good because I just don't think he looks good. You shouldn't project your short comings onto others and then pretend to be the GTP psychiatrist, my advice go back to not knowing about Motor Sports . It suits you better

 

[GTPorsche]

For the sake of everyone else, give it up already you two.

It's the NASCAR thread, not the "what guy do you find attractive" thread.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

For the sake of everyone else, give it up already you two.

It's the NASCAR thread, not the "what guy do you find attractive" thread.

Are you feeling neglected GTPorsche, you're not a bad looker

Also @Earth if you want to give advice do it on my wall, GTPorsche is right this is the NASCAR thread. Not dissect why I say what I say.

 

[Ganon83]

RIP Swan Racing. And I called it;

The Swan deal this year is going to flop. I'd of gotten an experienced driver like Blaney in one of them rather than have 2 full time young guns. Not a slight on either driver, both are good but I don't see it going well.

And here's what Swan said today as per Jayski:
"Swan Racing is in the process of reviewing its current situation and the ability to continue to compete in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series. The team has been unable to secure the kind of sponsorship required to effectively operate the team. As a result, the team management is exploring every available option. We hope to be in position to provide a detailed update in the near future."

 

[GTPorsche]

Considering they've had both cars crash in pretty much every race this year, I'm not surprised.

 

[Ganon83]

The crew members were told today that the team is being suspended and go look for jobs.
The big rumor is that the 26 will be merged with BK Racing. Swan Racing's owner tweeted today that his goal is for Whitt to run every Cup race this season. If this is true then Ryan Truex might be on the hot seat now- not so sure BK can run three full time cars for very long.
Sorry Kligerman fans, but even if Swan isn't dead just yet all indications are that at the very very most there's only going to be one car at Richmond, which would be the 26.

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

The crew members were told today that the team is being suspended and go look for jobs.
The big rumor is that the 26 will be merged with BK Racing. Swan Racing's owner tweeted today that his goal is for Whitt to run every Cup race this season. If this is true then Ryan Truex might be on the hot seat now- not so sure BK can run three full time cars for very long.
Sorry Kligerman fans, but even if Swan isn't dead just yet all indications are that at the very very most there's only going to be one car at Richmond, which would be the 26.

RIP Swan Racing. And I called it;

And here's what Swan said today as per Jayski:
"Swan Racing is in the process of reviewing its current situation and the ability to continue to compete in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series. The team has been unable to secure the kind of sponsorship required to effectively operate the team. As a result, the team management is exploring every available option. We hope to be in position to provide a detailed update in the near future."

So basically, Swan racing is slowly going down and may take Kligerman with them but will parcel off Cole Whitt to another backmarker. Judging by Parker's takedown of their cars on Jalopnik, I should have seen this coming seeing as they basically have outdated cars, and substandard engines (or something of that nature).
With that said:
1. Jalopnik (and their overlords), Dogecoin or some other Crowd-sourced entity should jump in and float the 30 car for 1 or more races so Swan can fix their problems.
2. Seeing as Parker is the only Toyota driver I really care for, I would hope that either JGR-KBM could reaccept him into their fold or maybe RCR or Penske could have him front a truck team or something either way, this is one small team I don't wanna see fold for the sake of him or Cole

 

[Ganon83]

The engines are Triad engines, out of the old Bill Davis Racing shop. Believe it or not, BK has much worse engines with Arrington engines.
1. We're talking a lot of money here. Crowd sourced funding is a new concept that not everybody is going to jump on at first. Not only that but it's probably way too late; unless you can raise $60,000 in two days, one of them being Easter, it isn't going to happen.
2. It isn't like KBM fired him. They just didn't have any sponsorship for him. You can be a great driver but you need to attract sponsorship now if you want to be in Cup. That's the main difference between PK and Landon Cassill, who always finds a sponsor before the Cup race every week.

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

The engines are Triad engines, out of the old Bill Davis Racing shop. Believe it or not, BK has much worse engines with Arrington engines.
1. We're talking a lot of money here. Crowd sourced funding is a new concept that not everybody is going to jump on at first. Not only that but it's probably way too late; unless you can raise $60,000 in two days, one of them being Easter, it isn't going to happen.
2. It isn't like KBM fired him. They just didn't have any sponsorship for him. You can be a great driver but you need to attract sponsorship now if you want to be in Cup. That's the main difference between PK and Landon Cassill, who always finds a sponsor before the Cup race every week.

1. Just how many Toyota branded engines are there in Sprint cup?
2. I concede, maybe Parker will in fact, miss Richmond
3. Maybe even a low-end truck team? not necessarily RCR

 

[RACECAR]

1. Just how many Toyota branded engines are there in Sprint cup?

As far as I can tell, there really only is TRD.

 

[Wilbur]

1. Just how many Toyota branded engines are there in Sprint cup?
2. I concede, maybe Parker will in fact, miss Richmond
3. Maybe even a low-end truck team? not necessarily RCR

I know of TRD who produces MWR/JGR's engines, I don't have any idea on the Bk racing engine packages but Triad (which Triad Racing Development but NOT Toyota) tends to produce the lower budget teams (or anything not JGR basically in other series).

As far as I can tell, there really only is TRD.

Read above, which people get confused between TRD = Toyota and TRD - Triad...which hell I don't know why they won't change the name of the latter to help. I know a fair amount of truck teams were running Traid like ThorSport, Redhorse.

 

[RACECAR]

Read above,.

I did read and I'm not reffering to Triad Racing Development (which is in the Trucks), I'm reffering to Toyota Racing Development (which is the actual one abbreviated to TRD and is the one in Cup, which was exactly the question I was answering). Notice I never refer to Triad as TRD.

 

[Ganon83]

GANON'S COMPLETE LIST OF ENGINE PROVIDERS IN THE NASCAR SPRINT CUP SERIES
Credit: Jayski Team Chart

Chevrolet

Hendrick: Hendrick, Ganassi, Stewart Haas, HScott (51, 52)

Earnhardt-Childress: Childress, Furniture Row, JTG (47), Germain (13), Joe Falk (33 and 40), Tommy Baldwin (7 and 36)

Pro Motor Engines: Parsons (98)

Ernie Elliott (Yes, that Ernie Elliott. How low can you fall): Xxxtreme (44)

Ford

Roush-Yates: Roush, Penske, Petty, Front Row (34, 35, 38), Go FAS (32), Wood Brothers, Humphrey (77)

Toyota

Toyota Racing Development: Gibbs, Waltrip

Triad: Swan

Pro Motors Plus: BK Racing (23 and 83), NEMCO (66 when Joe is in it, 87)

Also

CURRENT TEAMS THAT HAVE THE CAPAPILITES TO RUN DODGES IN 2015

Criteria: Engine provider and enough resources to run for Dodge.

Hendrick Motorsports
Roush
Childress (Best bet, which says a lot)

 

[RACECAR]

GANON'S COMPLETE LIST OF ENGINE PROVIDERS IN THE NASCAR SPRINT CUP SERIES
Credit: Jayski Team Chart

Chevrolet

Hendrick: Hendrick, Ganassi, Stewart Haas, HScott (51, 52)

Earnhardt-Childress: Childress, Furniture Row, JTG (47), Germain (13), Joe Falk (33 and 40), Tommy Baldwin (7 and 36)

Pro Motor Engines: Parsons (98)

Ernie Elliott (Yes, that Ernie Elliott. How low can you fall): Xxxtreme (44)

Ford

Roush-Yates: Roush, Penske, Petty, Front Row (34, 35, 38), Go FAS (32), Wood Brothers, Humphrey (77)

Toyota

Toyota Racing Development: Gibbs, Waltrip

Triad: Swan

Pro Motors Plus: BK Racing (23 and 83), NEMCO (66 when Joe is in it, 87)

Wait a minute, there's two Pro Motors? I only remember one and that was the one that supplied engines to KHI in Nationwide and Trucks.


Also, who's Ernie Elliot? I may be the only person on this planet that doesn't know who that is.

 

[Ganon83]

Wait a minute, there's two Pro Motors? I only remember one and that was the one that supplied engines to KHI in Nationwide and Trucks.


Also, who's Ernie Elliot? I may be the only person on this planet that doesn't know who that is.

Pro Motors Plus and Pro Motor Engines are completely different. Plus is ran by Joey Arrington and were historically Dodge engines while Engines are independent engine builders who used to have KHI as a customer
Ernie Elliott was the man behind Awesome Bill (and was his brother) in the 80's and his engines won most of the big races for a few years. He was also behind the Dodge engine program when they came back. The final time he was really very relavent was when Kasey Kahne won like 6 races with them in 2006.

 

[Wilbur]

I did read and I'm not reffering to Triad Racing Development (which is in the Trucks), I'm reffering to Toyota Racing Development (which is the actual one abbreviated to TRD and is the one in Cup, which was exactly the question I was answering). Notice I never refer to Triad as TRD.

Like I said just the MWR/JGR teams run actual Toyota's, so 6 at most per weekend depending on which 66 is on track .

 

[Ganon83]

Like I said just the MWR/JGR teams run actual Toyota's, so 6 at most per weekend depending on which 66 is on track .

And that's only on special occasion anyway, MWR is only going to use the car for 10 times this season. Toyota is the only make that actively makes its own engines, even though ironically they have three engine providers for use.
Roush-Yates is incredibly loyal to Ford, but Ford as far as I know isn't as involved as Toyota is with TRD.

 

[Ganon83]

Entry list is out, Swan is still listed but I doubt they don't withdraw as Whitt's people are saying he's looking for a ride this weekend. Entry list is made a couple of weeks in advance so this is normal.
http://www.jayski.com/news/stats/2014/story/_/page/09-Richmond-2014-Entry-List

 

[GTPorsche]

Roush-Yates might as well be the Factory Ford engine builder. They even build the engines for the Daytona Prototype Fords.

 

[RACECAR]

Roush-Yates might as well be the Factory Ford engine builder. They even build the engines for the Daytona Prototype Fords.

They are the only Ford Engine builder so by default, they pretty much are in that position.

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

GANON'S COMPLETE LIST OF ENGINE PROVIDERS IN THE NASCAR SPRINT CUP SERIES
Credit: Jayski Team Chart

Chevrolet

Hendrick: Hendrick, Ganassi, Stewart Haas, HScott (51, 52)

Earnhardt-Childress: Childress, Furniture Row, JTG (47), Germain (13), Joe Falk (33 and 40), Tommy Baldwin (7 and 36)

Pro Motor Engines: Parsons (98)

Ernie Elliott (Yes, that Ernie Elliott. How low can you fall): Xxxtreme (44)

Ford

Roush-Yates: Roush, Penske, Petty, Front Row (34, 35, 38), Go FAS (32), Wood Brothers, Humphrey (77)

Toyota

Toyota Racing Development: Gibbs, Waltrip

Triad: Swan

Pro Motors Plus: BK Racing (23 and 83), NEMCO (66 when Joe is in it, 87)

Also

CURRENT TEAMS THAT HAVE THE CAPAPILITES TO RUN DODGES IN 2015

Criteria: Engine provider and enough resources to run for Dodge.

Hendrick Motorsports
Roush
Childress (Best bet, which says a lot)

1. So Roush-Yates does the engines for the Factory Ford teams (Penske/Roush) as well as the customer and backmarker teams

2. So Toyota does their own engines for the factory teams (Waltrip/JGR) and everyone else runs licensed customer engines made by seemingly random companies. It seems Toyota treats NASCAR like it's Le Mans or something

3. It seems that if Dodge/SRT were to come back they need to either do it themselves or throw billions at RCR or just buy up BK Racing (since they always have sponsors it seems) and go from there. I mean come on, who wouldn't want to see a Dodge Charger with that wicked Borla Exhaust paint scheme that Ryan Truex runs



All in all, NASCAR has THE most convoluted engine/team system in Motorsports today. If only it was clearer to track the factory/customer teams/engines

 

[Wilbur]

1. So Roush-Yates does the engines for the Factory Ford teams (Penske/Roush) as well as the customer and backmarker teams

2. So Toyota does their own engines for the factory teams (Waltrip/JGR) and everyone else runs licensed customer engines made by seemingly random companies. It seems Toyota treats NASCAR like it's Le Mans or something

3. It seems that if Dodge/SRT were to come back they need to either do it themselves or throw billions at RCR or just buy up BK Racing (since they always have sponsors it seems) and go from there. I mean come on, who wouldn't want to see a Dodge Charger with that wicked Borla Exhaust paint scheme that Ryan Truex runs



All in all, NASCAR has THE most convoluted engine/team system in Motorsports today. If only it was clearer to track the factory/customer teams/engines

Toyota does it's own but that wasn't always the case. They basically took what JGR found out about their engines and took it over, because JGR was building their own Toyota engines at first.

Well BK racing hasn't been funded til this year via other sponsors, BK was similar to how Front Row ran with Tacobell/Long John Silvers and owning chains which allowed them to put it on their car. Also like Roush does with Ecoboost (those races are unfunded, but they don't want a blank car).

The rumor was also that Furniture Row was going to a 2 car team with Dodge this year but that didn't do anything. I don't see RCR actually switching for the simple fact of how many customers they have now for their engine program (from DP's, to lower series).

I'm really not sure about some of your confusion or the Le Man's comment but most fans know who make what engines outside of the Toyota camp (which the Pro Motors I had no idea bout but they aren't a major player if you ask me). Chevy is pretty much RCR/Hendrick, Ford - Roush, Toyota is TRD or Triad.

 

[BKGlover]

Since when is John Cena a racer?

 

[Ganon83]

Since when is John Cena a racer?

Fake Elway smile for days
Also, Pro Motors suck pretty bad. They were waaaay off pace at Daytona.

 

[GTPorsche]

Brad Keselowski fixes(?) the NASCAR schedule.

http://bradracing.com/races/easter-break/my-dream-schedule

Starts two weeks after the Super Bowl, finishes in mid-October, 6 weeks earlier than the current schedule.