2016 Virgin Australia Supercars Championship - Results and TalkTouring Cars 

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Pete05
Unfortunately, I don't think there's any chance of that happening. If Volvo win legally, it could take a long time for GRM to recover from this.
Volvo have basically said they want a divorce so I don't know why GRM just doesn't move on & be done with it.
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Definitely not cool. That's like $150k per race. 36? Races. 👎. Betty almost paid that($150k+)when the Russells left.
 
05XR8
Definitely not cool. That's like $150k per race. 36? Races. 👎. Betty almost paid that($150k+)when the Russells left.
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No, I don't mean move on from the VASC. I meant forget about brawling with Volvo & look to the future.
Also, they've pretty much knocked the option of using their DVS entries on the head. Not only aren't the cars owned by GRM, they were built circa 2013 & the team doesn't think they'd be competitive in the modern main game.
As much as it'll pain the anti-Commodore, anti-Roland & 888 haters, given GRM's experience running the GM product, I wish Garry would just place an order for two cars & spares inventory for a season.
If the iron they apparently have in the fire comes good, they can hold a garage sale at the end of the '17 & roll out shiny new ____ in '18.

Let's say the court decision goes against Volvo.
GRM get to keep the cars & spares inventory including however many engines that entails. Those engines will need rebuilds, that I understand is undertaken in Sweden.
Can you really imagine the Swedes doing those rebuilds with 100% dedication? All I can see is lots of Valvoline smoke signals & a very large blame game ensuing.

Lastly, what budget does GRM have in place for next season? Are Wilson & Payce hanging around?
 
I think financially they are much better off finalizing that new deal and moving forward with it. Even if they miss half of 2017 to build the cars.
 
Pete05
No, I don't mean move on from the VASC. I meant forget about brawling with Volvo & look to the future.
Also, they've pretty much knocked the option of using their DVS entries on the head. Not only aren't the cars owned by GRM, they were built circa 2013 & the team doesn't think they'd be competitive in the modern main game.
As much as it'll pain the anti-Commodore, anti-Roland & 888 haters, given GRM's experience running the GM product, I wish Garry would just place an order for two cars & spares inventory for a season.
If the iron they apparently have in the fire comes good, they can hold a garage sale at the end of the '17 & roll out shiny new ____ in '18.

Let's say the court decision goes against Volvo.
GRM get to keep the cars & spares inventory including however many engines that entails. Those engines will need rebuilds, that I understand is undertaken in Sweden.
Can you really imagine the Swedes doing those rebuilds with 100% dedication? All I can see is lots of Valvoline smoke signals & a very large blame game ensuing.

Lastly, what budget does GRM have in place for next season? Are Wilson & Payce hanging around?
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I know what you meant. I was pointing out the possible fines GRM would incur, if they couldn't commit to part or all races next year(they locked in their RECs).

I can understand Garry wants what's fair, but why isn't he calling anyone as you've mentioned?
I don't know if he has Cummins on speed dial or if Valvoline are hanging around.
 
05XR8
I know what you meant. I was pointing out the possible fines GRM would incur, if they couldn't commit to part or all races next year(they locked in their RECs).

I can understand Garry wants what's fair, but why isn't he calling anyone as you've mentioned?
I don't know if he has Cummins on speed dial or if Valvoline are hanging around.
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I just don't want him putting all his eggs in the one basket so to speak.

As for Valvoline & Cummins, Garry has had a long term relationship with both of them that stretches back way before he entered Supercars so, I'd be shocked to the core if they weren't on the cars next year & beyond.
 
Pete05
No, I don't mean move on from the VASC. I meant forget about brawling with Volvo & look to the future.
Also, they've pretty much knocked the option of using their DVS entries on the head. Not only aren't the cars owned by GRM, they were built circa 2013 & the team doesn't think they'd be competitive in the modern main game.
As much as it'll pain the anti-Commodore, anti-Roland & 888 haters, given GRM's experience running the GM product, I wish Garry would just place an order for two cars & spares inventory for a season.
If the iron they apparently have in the fire comes good, they can hold a garage sale at the end of the '17 & roll out shiny new ____ in '18.

Let's say the court decision goes against Volvo.
GRM get to keep the cars & spares inventory including however many engines that entails. Those engines will need rebuilds, that I understand is undertaken in Sweden.
Can you really imagine the Swedes doing those rebuilds with 100% dedication? All I can see is lots of Valvoline smoke signals & a very large blame game ensuing.

Lastly, what budget does GRM have in place for next season? Are Wilson & Payce hanging around?
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Would ordering Fords from PRA be any easier? PRA seem to be dedicated to keep the Ford brand alive for Australia, supplying 2 Fords to another team like 888 does with their Holdens could help their goals and give GRM a fresh car.

As much as I am a Holden fan, seeing at max. for next year 16 Holdens against 10 of everything else feels like overkill in terms of competitions.
 
RESHIRAM5
Would ordering Fords from PRA be any easier? PRA seem to be dedicated to keep the Ford brand alive for Australia, supplying 2 Fords to another team like 888 does with their Holdens could help their goals and give GRM a fresh car.

As much as I am a Holden fan, seeing at max. for next year 16 Holdens against 10 of everything else feels like overkill in terms of competitions.
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It (the PRA/Ford option) would probably be just as easy if not more so considering the delivery of such is a cross town drive.
If GRM had a history with the blue oval, I would've suggested exactly that.
Seeing as though the Holdens wouldn't be totally foreign to them and, buying 888 cars would mean they have arguably the best equipment available, they could almost bank on a decent season. While the 888 cars don't guarantee success, it removes a serious variable in the whole scenario.
 
Might have to buy Tander's old Walky VFII. I know Dane would be happy to take Garry's money, but RD sure won't do him any favors with new equipment.

It's seriously too late to build anything. Erebus built/converted 3 cars in 2-3 months. I can't see GRM doing the same. Say, Betty can loan him two of the E63s. :sly: ok, I'll stop. :ouch:
 
I'm not sure if I'm more happy about that or David Reynolds making James Phelps look like an idiot on Inside Supercars tonight.
 
At a place where there is no room for error, there should be room for error over those.

Once the bundles claim their first victims, it just makes things dangerous and messy.
 
They need to do what they used to for champ car, tech screw some cones down and penalize anyone who hits them,
 
Spacegoat
Whincup: Supercars "played dirty" in Bathurst appeal.
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Kind of shoots himself in the foot by claiming he fully had control of the car and purposely caused the yaw going into the turn, but if that's the case...why do it knowing Scotty is there and the potential to hit him will occur. It seems either you didn't have control, or you did but in either scenario started a chain reaction. The problem is the forced move didn't have to happen a cross over could have taken place after the turn and easily put Scotty down, without two cars having their race ended minutes from the end. And said forced move either way caused the wreck due to the back end stepping out.
 
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Pete05
Let's say the court decision goes against Volvo.
GRM get to keep the cars & spares inventory including however many engines that entails. Those engines will need rebuilds, that I understand is undertaken in Sweden.
Can you really imagine the Swedes doing those rebuilds with 100% dedication? All I can see is lots of Valvoline smoke signals & a very large blame game ensuing.
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Not to mention that would be a logistical nightmare when Volvo Polestar puts said rebuilds to the bottom of the pile.

I would personally love to see GRM try to bring in a totally new manufacturer. Ideally one that would actually hang around. I've always had the idea that Jaguar would make a great addition. Especially given their up and coming status with Land Rover in Australasia
 
DRIFT4EVA
I would personally love to see GRM try to bring in a totally new manufacturer.
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They are already lining one up, but they cannot get the cars finished in time to run in 2017. Hence why they are fighting with Volvo to be able to keep their cars for 1 more season.
 
As mush as Hyundai would be a good addition for them and to the series, I think GRM are wooing another Euro manufacturer. At least I hope so. Garry mentioned Barry may have found the perfect car that matches the Volvo. I doubt a Genesis matches an S60. Jag, BMW, VW. Those brands sell well here. However, Hyundai(with N branding) may be more willing to shell out the funds for Supercars exposure.
 
05XR8
As mush as Hyundai would be a good addition for them and to the series, I think GRM are wooing another Euro manufacturer. At least I hope so. Garry mentioned Barry may have found the perfect car that matches the Volvo. I doubt a Genesis matches an S60. Jag, BMW, VW. Those brands sell well here. However, Hyundai(with N branding) may be more willing to shell out the funds for Supercars exposure.
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I don't see VW making the move with the financial issues they are facing right now.
mustafur
If Hyundai used a car it would undoubtedly be the Genesis Coupe, the Sedan is far too long.
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The Coupe has been cancelled though.
 
I reckon they'd go for the i40. Dimensions mean bugger all so long as it can be shrunk or stretched over the control chassis.
 

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