2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

[Weaves1983]

It does. The other version has 'no chicane' in its name. If it does not say that and the map shows the chicanes it is best to assume it has chicanes.

gotcha. I only started playing back in January so this is all new.

 

[Seth_Logan]

Applying Tidgney's & Kireth's tips on HOW to LEARN to get faster

There is a difference between learning to be faster and learning a method to achieve that goal. This short clip I made is the latter one where I'm trying to put together things that are taught to me by both @Tidgney and @kirethk on what I (everyone) should really do to make themselves faster. Watch those first, then mine to see how I try and quite fast actually, achieve a faster time in the space of 17 laps at Sardegna C.

Tidgney's tips on how to get faster at any circuit:


Kirteth holistic view and especially his view on brute force vs technique:


It's half way through the session when I make my first real jump timewise when I decide to record the rest of it, using all that has been taught.



I shaved of a lot and know there is more.

For reference: the last Sardegna C race I managed a faster time than this one shown in the vid. But it was achieved using the "brut" force of going rounds over and over and getting lucky somewhere. This time I found I could repeat the new time I found (faster) and that is the true difference between then and now, using the tips instead of just going at it.

With thanks to both Kireth & Tidgney for the amazing efforts they put in to help us out with this wonderful sport. Keep it up guys! We are using it!

 

[RACECAR]

Soooo, last night was my first FIA race in about over a year and my first with a wheel:

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Not too shabby.

 

[crusselz]

Don't think I've ever driven the SF cars, outside of the campaign mode, and that was simply to finish the game.

Not yet entered the nations Cup, but I'm tempted to. With this combo. FP time down to a 1:25.6 (optimal is a .3). No clue what will be competitive in actual race settings.

Anyone running lobbies. Apart from the A+ and upwards gang (nowhere near quick enough to compare times with some of you haha), what kinda lap times are you seeing?

 

[Zorz]

Don't think I've ever driven the SF cars, outside of the campaign mode, and that was simply to finish the game.

Not yet entered the nations Cup, but I'm tempted to. With this combo. FP time down to a 1:25.6 (optimal is a .3). No clue what will be competitive in actual race settings.

Anyone running lobbies. Apart from the A+ and upwards gang (nowhere near quick enough to compare times with some of you haha), what kinda lap times are you seeing?

My best is a 1:26.2 in free practice at the moment, around 41K DR. Despite winning in the Super Formula the last time it came up at Bathurst, I am not confident here. Just did a practice lobby as well, the start is going to be mental. I dropped all the way from P3 down to P11 on lap 1 from trying to keep it clean but everyone's just going to play bumper cars with their elbows right out I think. I did end up P3 again in the end, but there was a big range in the quali times.

 

[Photodave219]

With thanks to both Kireth & Tidgney for the amazing efforts they put in to help us out with this wonderful sport. Keep it up guys! We are using it!

Thank you very much for sharing these. They will certainly be helpful.

gotcha. I only started playing back in January so this is all new.

You're not alone. I only started with a wheel back in January, so I feel I'm very new at this still. I did a few months of daily races on a controller and ... yeah, that was counter productive. Tho it allowed me the time to decide "Do i want to drop $300+ on a wheel and really try to learn?" Yes. Yes I do.

This forum seems very welcoming and educational. There are more than just the A/A+ in here. From what I've learned, that line between ranks isn't as wide apart as I thought rather its about refined technique and practice. We've all been in an FIA race and behind someone you just know hasn't practiced and you're just searching for a way around them as well as had that driver who knows sector 3 way better than you do and you're trying to find a way to give him some room to get around and not be rude but not lose a boatload of positions.

 

[Weaves1983]

Thank you very much for sharing these. They will certainly be helpful.




You're not alone. I only started with a wheel back in January, so I feel I'm very new at this still. I did a few months of daily races on a controller and ... yeah, that was counter productive. Tho it allowed me the time to decide "Do i want to drop $300+ on a wheel and really try to learn?" Yes. Yes I do.

This forum seems very welcoming and educational. There are more than just the A/A+ in here. From what I've learned, that line between ranks isn't as wide apart as I thought rather its about refined technique and practice. We've all been in an FIA race and behind someone you just know hasn't practiced and you're just searching for a way around them as well as had that driver who knows sector 3 way better than you do and you're trying to find a way to give him some room to get around and not be rude but not lose a boatload of positions.

yeah this place has certainly helped me improve. I’ve managed to move up to C, and I’m pretty comfortable there. I stick with a controller just because I don’t have the time to justify a wheel. I’m just a casual player that tries to get a few races in each day.

 

[KosmoKazi]

Thank you very much for sharing these. They will certainly be helpful.




You're not alone. I only started with a wheel back in January, so I feel I'm very new at this still. I did a few months of daily races on a controller and ... yeah, that was counter productive. Tho it allowed me the time to decide "Do i want to drop $300+ on a wheel and really try to learn?" Yes. Yes I do.

This forum seems very welcoming and educational. There are more than just the A/A+ in here. From what I've learned, that line between ranks isn't as wide apart as I thought rather its about refined technique and practice. We've all been in an FIA race and behind someone you just know hasn't practiced and you're just searching for a way around them as well as had that driver who knows sector 3 way better than you do and you're trying to find a way to give him some room to get around and not be rude but not lose a boatload of positions.

This is the place, that’s for sure. GT Planet is the best thing to happen to the game besides the game being made! Makes it much more fun, a great community.

 

[D_Dragline]

Is anybody able to adequately explain the track limits at Le Mans? In particular the seemingly random application at Indianapolis? In FP I’m getting a pen there about every 3rd lap and I have no idea what I’m doing differently.

 

[Redneckchef]

Is anybody able to adequately explain the track limits at Le Mans? In particular the seemingly random application at Indianapolis? In FP I’m getting a pen there about every 3rd lap and I have no idea what I’m doing differently.

Ok, so for the start, at the first chicane corners your right wheels have to be touching the black, but if you press the gas it can still get a penalty, for the right turn (second half of chicane) you can cut all wheels onto the very edge curb, but any input there while doing so will trigger a penalty. If you keep the left wheels on the black you can simply drive.

Tertre Rouge: Left wheels have to be touching the black at Apex, Right wheels have to stay pretty much at the white line on exit, but be back on the black before the wide part of the curving ends.

Chicane 1, keep the outside wheels "on track" by keeping them inside the white lines. This chicane is fairly flat and I get a great run by focusing on spending slightly ahead of the actual apex to floor it all the way to chicane 2.

Chicane 2, same as 1, but a much tighter exit. If you run wide on exit often it helps to let of the gas and tap the brakes. Otherwise you get a penalty. Sometimes you still do anyway.

Indy and Arnage. At Indianapolis you have to keep the inside wheels inside the curb on the right kink, then usually avoid the curb for the actual left turn. Contact with the curb there beyond a certain vague point seems to trigger the penalty. As does running wide on exit even though it slows you down. At Arnage keep the car pretty much in the middle on the black. Inside wheels can just clip the curb at apex and outside wheels can run onto the curb on exit, but anything else seems to be a penalty.

Running deep on the first left of the Porsche curves gets you a penalty, as does all 4 wheels outside curbs on either of the Corvette curves.
Ford chicane is a guessing game still. I've kept wheels on the black and gotten a cut penalty, I've cut the hell out of it and gotten nothing.

And yeah, wear some lucky underwear, pray to gods of dunlop and anything else you cam think of because sometimes you just seem to get a penalty for driving.

Anyone able to better explain them please do as I only normally run there in Group C machinery so there might be some tricky ones I never push.

 

[kungtotte_]

PD has put about 50% of the development budget into making an AI corner cut penalty system specifically for La Sarthe that is designed to maximize player frustration. Each lap it will subtly shift the track limits and alter the amount you have to lift off in order to avoid a penalty if you do go wide somewhere, so that you can't be sure lap to lap where to actually place the car.

It's a little bit like a lottery that way. Scratch the ticket and find out if you won!

 

[Erebus_9]

PD continue to come up with new and inventive glitches... this happened just now in a practice lobby I was in Eventually this happened to everyone who pitted - all caught live on NoThisIsJester's YouTube livestream as well.

 

[SUPRASTAR0003]

It’s time for the Gran Premio de Pain. Racing underway in Oceania.



Edit: I finished 15th out of 16th. What a boring race.

 

[foolsgold74]

Good luck to everyone racing the Not the Spanish GP in Nations today.

I'll be playing golf in torrential rain instead and probably wishing I was flying round Catalunya in Super Formulas. Love racing those cars.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Well I've had enough of a certain erratic driver today. Not just this race, but in many previous encounters he will always 1) Try to race everyone in quali. 2) Always try to defend the inside even though you are so far out of slipstream range, slowing him down and making it actually easier for you to catch up. 3) Always goes for a divebomb whenever he's behind you, no matter if there's space or not.

This race, he bumped me from behind once and divebombed twice, all 3 times getting penalties and falling back. Unfortunately he always caught back up because everyone in front of me keeps squabbling and wasting time. Anyway, I got enough and went for an ultra undercut (3M/10S), and finished 5th. He stuck with the usual 7S/6M and finished way down in 13th. We both started nose to tail (6th and 8th).

So after the race I typed "never learn". Then shortly I got PM'd "Sorry, I'm always learning. My 2yo messes with my rig and I can only brake 70%".

Well firstly, he's done 800+ races according to kudos and he hasn't learned.
There is no 2yo in the world smart enough to change brake calibration software, or take apart pedals and insert a rubber cone to limit travel (and you can't do this from GTS settings either).
And the coup de grace, you can clearly see in the replay that he goes to full 100% brake

Anyway, I don't normally rat out people but this is just too funny (and shows you the mentality of some people playing GTS). If you race smart folks, you've already beaten 50% of people out there.

You can probably guess what his SR trace looks like...

 

[Redneckchef]

So I got into my usual slot for Nations. Even had my usual short practice to figure things out, but I ran the heck out of this race when it was a daily so I thought I might be ok.

Ran completely off track on my first lap in qualifying, so not a great start. But I have room to space it so ride the lap out and start a flyer while in slipstream. The guy ahead is normally my speed so dirty air isnt crazy bad for me and I get an ok lap, putting me p10 on the grid. Door number 8, 9 and 10 all lined up in our same grid slots. Also had @Erebus_9 up in front and 2 known rowdy drivers near me.

So I start on softs, get a good launch and spam the boost button while hugging the absolute inside. Manage to be p6 leaving turn 1. Get to the back and have 1 of the rowdies left behind me so I am desperate to get around the guy just in front. I get a better launch for the back straight and set up to go inside. I brake late, but he does too. I go slightly wide while dodging cars, he bumps @Erebus_9 wide (I checked the replay, it actually wasnt me) and I go through to p4 by luck. Rowdy comes with me. But when I look back he has a track limits penalty so it all goes ok.

Things settle down and I lap there for a bit. P2 spins off so I get p3 for a while. Track limits and some other slightly sloppy driving see me pit end of lap 8 in p4. Come out and it settles to p5, battling to the end. We both keep making minor mistakes and let another driver catch up. Good battling till the end. I easily could have had p4, but I made my own silly track limit penalties so bring it home p6 for 143. About 0.8 between p4 and myself.

It was a good race once it settled and finally good to have a solid result and halfway competent drive under my belt this year.

Good luck out there everyone. May the tires and fuel last long and the track limits be generous to you all.

 

[xxPinkyKissxx]

Pretty pleased with my current time for Le Mans. Currently still in top 170 and 23rd fastest in U.K. Annoyingly my lap time would have been a few tenths quicker as I ran wide very last corner and went through the gravel before crossing the line . As it will be a Hard tire sprint race though, from now on I’ll just practice on Hards and leave the lap time as that!

 

[Zorz]

Pretty pleased with my current time for Le Mans. Currently still in top 170 and 23rd fastest in U.K. Annoyingly my lap time would have been a few tenths quicker as I ran wide very last corner and went through the gravel before crossing the line . As it will be a Hard tire sprint race though, from now on I’ll just practice on Hards and leave the lap time as that!

I was looking at your practice time on my friends list and wondering what on earth you were doing, right now you're so far ahead of everyone else on it I'd have sworn you were an alien.

With pace like that, here's hoping you can break the tow and get a good result on Wednesday. 👍

 

[xxPinkyKissxx]

I was looking at your practice time on my friends list and wondering what on earth you were doing, right now you're so far ahead of everyone else on it I'd have sworn you were an alien.

With pace like that, here's hoping you can break the tow and get a good result on Wednesday. 👍

Hopefully avoid any lap 1 chaos. Need to make sure I qualify well. Biggest fear is getting punted at the end of each straight!

 

[OJBrit]

Pretty pleased with my current time for Le Mans. Currently still in top 170 and 23rd fastest in U.K. Annoyingly my lap time would have been a few tenths quicker as I ran wide very last corner and went through the gravel before crossing the line . As it will be a Hard tire sprint race though, from now on I’ll just practice on Hards and leave the lap time as that!

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Waving at you from back in 922!
Looks like you have a good time there.

 

[pennanton]

So had a cracker with ol mate @Erebus_9. A reversal of fortunes from Manu had me winning by .001. Heres the last lap:



However strangely enough, photo mode says differently

 

[OJBrit]

You get an extra 0.02 for the livery.

 

[GR33N]

@pennanton pretty cool

I wonder though where precisely is the finish line ? Maybe in the middle of the broad white line ? Given the speed difference between both cars, you could well be in front 50 cm further!

 

[Stephan]

So I used this opportunity to use my new alternate account aka Chad Speedfast for today's race and suffice to say...the race not much to say because two drivers behind me decided to oof each other in turn 1 and it allowed me to get away from the opposition and build a gap and from there it was smooth sailing to the alt account's first win. Must say I have newfound love for the Catalunya track when driving the SF19.

 

[Erebus_9]

Absolutely awesome race with @pennanton in Nations. Could analyse the race to death, but really, the finish of this one is all that matters.

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The odd part is, looking at it frame by frame, the game initially has me as the winner, then swaps the order...

However strangely enough, photo mode says differently

@pennanton pretty cool

I wonder though where precisely is the finish line ? Maybe in the middle of the broad white line ? Given the speed difference between both cars, you could well be in front 50 cm further!

Had the same exact photo finish on my end as well. I did some testing after the race, and the middle of the car needs to cross the very start of the line. Even pausing it at that point, I'm still barely ahead.

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You get an extra 0.02 for the livery.

Completely fair, to be honest

 

[pennanton]

The odd part is, looking at it frame by frame, the game initially has me as the winner, then swaps the order...


Had the same exact photo finish on my end as well. I did some testing after the race, and the middle of the car needs to cross the very start of the line. Even pausing it at that point, I'm still barely ahead.

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Honestly during the race I thought yeah I had it, which is easy to think when you're in the car going by with momentum. When looking at the replay I though it'd might just be latency, considering my replay information would have just been what your connection relays to mine. Only thing I can think of is there's a different spot where the timing loop beings/ends, and where the physical line is.

 

[Erebus_9]

Only thing I can think of is there's a different spot where the timing loop beings/ends, and where the physical line is.

Yeah, it was impossible to tell for me in the race. Thought I held on but really wasn't sure with your momentum. As for the timing loop - here's a video of testing where the timing loop is.



Seems like latency is the only possibility really, unless anyone else can come up with an explanation for it?

Edit: Other option is that it was just too close for the game to tell, which wouldn't make sense when the server/physics engine would have an exact position for each car on the track...

 

[GR33N]

Yeah that's strange indeed!
Imagine this happening in a live event, a WT victory getting "stolen" in front of thousands of viewers. That'd be something

 

[pennanton]

Yeah that's strange indeed!
Imagine this happening in a live event, a WT victory getting "stolen" in front of thousands of viewers. That'd be something

Oi I earned this

 

[KosmoKazi]

So had a cracker with ol mate @Erebus_9. A reversal of fortunes from Manu had me winning by .001. Heres the last lap:



However strangely enough, photo mode says differently

That's happened to me before as well... no explanation that I can figure out. Was lucky enough to win one where the other guy's nose was ahead of mine in the photo finish at Monza.