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Not in any specific sense, no. No more so than I think everyone else should be voting for the most likely candidate to stop Trump winning anything, anywhere, at any rate.
In general anyone voting for Trump is voting for a total end of all legal processes and structures behind the USA and - in this election, like the last election, only - anyone not voting for Harris is as close to a vote for Trump as it's possible to be without voting for Trump.
And yes, I understand all of the concepts of third parties and abstension, and all the arguments for and against them - I personally spoil my ballot every election, with the sole exception of my wife's candidacy for local councillor last year - as well as the ideas of safe seats, swing seats, red states, blue states, purple states, and so on and so forth, but Trump is exceptional.
Quite simply every effort to stop him must be expended.
Not having been held accountable is not the same as not being able to be held accountable. Again, Trump is exceptional; the ludicrous stacking of SCOTUS and its subsequent determination that the POTUS is exempt from any consequence for any "official act" is seemingly a perpetual GOOJF card. Aside from all the Constitutional violations he obviously committed, all the felonies, the rapes, the theft and storage of SCI, he's been impeached twice and the Senate failed in its duty to convict. He is shameless.
I don't believe that any US machinery will ever hold any politician accountable for pro-Israeli actions, no matter how awful they are, because Israel holds such a special place in the Federal government (additionally, so does Judaism generally; it's genuinely bizarre to me how many US TV shows feature Jewish culture staples like Bar Mitzvahs, Jewish wedding ceremonies, yarmulkes, spoken Hebrew - we have almost none of that in the UK, and the US Jewish population is only four times ours per capita [2% to 0.45%]). Israel could nuke the place and whoever's in the Oval Office will make a Tweet about it and get on with their lives (Harris with a crying face emoji saying how sad she is, Trump PRAISING STRONG ISRAEL IN ALL CAPITALS).
However I do think that the people will, and I think that's orders of magnitude more likely among the Democrats than the Republicans. Look how little pressure was applied to Biden to get him to stand aside on grounds of age. Trump is no less mentally enfeebled and now the oldest candidate ever placed on the ticket. The Republicans still queue up behind him no matter what, as he craps himself from both ends. One is run like a religion, the other like a political party - which isn't always better (we all remember the DNC pushing Hillary Clinton forward nefariously), but is at least mutable.
For that matter, look at how some people are holding Harris accountable right now for things she hasn't done yet...
No idea, but that was the gist of the quote ascribed to her in one of the Tweets you posted.
Glad we have an accord there.
And to revisit the first part of my reply, regardless of all other matters, this is an exceptional election because Trump is an exceptional candidate. No other candidate in US history has already rode roughshod over its entire structure when in power and promises to do it again. He came within Mike Pence's spine of doing it - which nobody knew he had - and this time there are no competent, capable people around him to rein it in. There will be no checks and balances, and it will end the country. I don't think Gaza will be wiped out in four years, I think it'll not even be six months and we may well see the first nuclear strikes in warfare since 1945.
It's virtually immaterial how bad the other candidate might be, on any topic; Trump must be stopped - and while you might feel that your vote won't matter because you're in a solidly whatever-way-it-is State, it absolutely does; no State is safe if the non-voters show up and vote the other way. Even Vermont (which would have been Trump by 4,000 votes if that had happened). Most would flip with just a third of the non-voters showing up, and more leany/marginal seats with just 10% of them.
Remember how much effort he went to in order to "find" (fabricate) 0.24% of the vote in Georgia last time out? And Georgia was safe-red almost my entire life - both Bushes won it (W twice, and 58:41 once!), along with McCain, Romney, and even Bob ****ing Dole. Now it's a swing state, it seems.
