2024 US Presidential Election Thread

[dylansan]

Democrats' plan to fight Trump and win future elections:

Cooperation.

Democrats' playbook to beat Republicans in 2 years: work with them now

Democrats have a plan to take back power in Washington back from Republicans in two years: work with them now.

abcnews.go.com

Apparently Trump is not an existential threat to democracy, but is actually reasonable and may share some common ground with Democrats. They talk about Trump doing bad things with the word "If", not "When".

I'm sure when midterms roll around, and Democrats campaign on all the bipartisan bills they helped push through alongside Republicans, that'll really convince the electorate of the importance of rejecting Republicans and voting in Democrats instead.

 

[Keef]

The Democratic Party is dead. It's going to take an Obama-like figure to make any of it makes sense, and you'll note that Obama was rather moderate during his tenure. Liberals are just way too in their feelings about way too many things for any of it to make sense. They've got Bernie Sanders and AOC and that's about it, nobody else with a name is that liberal and can defend it sensibly, and all other Democrats are far more moderate.

 

[GranTurNismo]

I’ve said this so many times. Democratic politicians want bipartisanship, unity, compromise, to inhibit the party platform from moving left, which threatens corporate donor interests. They commit the fallacy of the golden mean- the best outcome is not guaranteed to be, and rarely ever is, the middle of two extremes. And it’s obvious that the median democratic voter, whether more moderate or more left, does not want bipartisanship with republicans. Because they can see so clearly that the GOP is completely opposed to democracy and egalitarianism and would not be willing to cooperate with Democrats under any circumstances.

Meanwhile no Republican politicians, not even the most moderate ones anymore, talk about bipartisanship. Acting as flagrantly partisan as possible is a winning strategy for them- it not only gives their base faith in the party (meanwhile actively worsening their own lives in the process), and doesn’t threaten the donor class at all. After all, fascism requires state corporatism and oligarchy, and does not meaningfully threaten the livelihoods of elites.

Until democrats ditch the “adults in the room” and the “when they go low, we go high “ approach and play the republicans at their own game, they will not sustain as a party. Only winning elections because the GOP has so obviously made things worse while doing nothing to make fundamental changes is not a viable long term strategy.