2100: What will life be like by then? What will humanity have accomplished by then?

[Joey D]

If Earth survives until 2100. Some people expect the world t be destroyed in 2012. That's when the sun reaches the exact center of the universe!

There is no known centre of the universe and we are defiantly NOT at the centre if there is one. You = Physics Failure.

 

[Omnis]

There is no known centre of the universe and we are defiantly NOT at the centre if there is one. You = Physics Failure.

I never knew driving a Mini turns you into a limey.


Anyway, I thought Juan Pablo Montoya was the center of the universe.

 

[Touring Mars]

I thought Juan Pablo Montoya was the center of the universe.

That's funny, so does he...

 

[TheCracker]

Anyway, I thought Juan Pablo Montoya was the center of the universe.

No, it just feels that way. It's because great mass effects gravity like that.

 

[GrumpEone]

If Earth survives until 2100. Some people expect the world t be destroyed in 2012. That's when the sun reaches the exact center of the universe!

I thought the Dec. 21st, 2012 doomsday date had to do with planetary alignment. Where Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn are in complete alignment, causing massive gravitational/ magentic field anomolies, theoreticallly causing a magnetic polar shift/ reversal on Earth.

 

[Danoff]

I thought the Dec. 21st, 2012 doomsday date had to do with planetary alignment. Where Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn are in complete alignment, causing massive gravitational/ magentic field anomolies, theoreticallly causing a magnetic polar shift/ reversal on Earth.

That's something that only a person who hasn't crunched the numbers could possibly come up with. The moon has more gravitational pull on our planet than all of those planets combined. If the moon didn't flip the Earth, those planets don't have a chance.

 

[Joey D]

Ya nothing is really going to happen when the planets align, it wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last time.

Also the Mayans didn't say the world was going to end in 2012, their calender cycle is going to end, but that doesn't really mean anything.

 

[Danoff]

Seriously. The world's population is self-stabilizing. You can't have 20 billion people if the 12 billionth person keeps dieing due to lack of resources. I suspect the world's population will struggle to surpass 8 or 9 billion.

Due to lack of what resources? Surely not food... and surely not water - the most abundant substance on the planet.

I've started a philosophical thread about this kind of thinking in the opinions forum.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=100415

 

[CDailey]

We will find out how many licks it really takes to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop.

 

[GrumpEone]

That's something that only a person who hasn't crunched the numbers could possibly come up with. The moon has more gravitational pull on our planet than all of those planets combined. If the moon didn't flip the Earth, those planets don't have a chance.

I don't think the 'theory' has as much to do with gravity but more to do with magnetism. And quite frankly I don't put too much stock into the theory. But it also has been theorized that the Earth has gone through at least one complete magnetic polar reversal. Makes me wonder how.

And I suppose you have crunched the numbers.

Ya nothing is really going to happen when the planets align, it wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last time.

Also the Mayans didn't say the world was going to end in 2012, their calender cycle is going to end, but that doesn't really mean anything.

The Mayans didn't say much, but they are one of the most anal cultures when it comes to Time and thier calendar. Makes one wonder, why they stopped calculating thier calender at 2012.

All I do know is that, I don't know everything; and in the 'grand scheme' of things mankind knows very little. We know more about outer space, than the depths of our own oceans. There is still many things going on in the Universe that remain unexplaind and will be, for many years to come.

Also the Iching ends it's cycle on Dec 21, 2012 too.

 

[Danoff]

I don't think the 'theory' has as much to do with gravity but more to do with magnetism. And quite frankly I don't put too much stock into the theory. But it also has been theorized that the Earth has gone through at least one complete magnetic polar reversal. Makes me wonder how.

And I suppose you have crunched the numbers.

It's my understanding that shifts in the earth's magnetic field have to do with movement in the crust and interior rather than external forces.

...and yes. I'm intimately familiar with the various gravitational forces acting in the vicinity of Earth.

 

[GrumpEone]

It's my understanding that shifts in the earth's magnetic field have to do with movement in the crust and interior rather than external forces.

...and yes. I'm intimately familiar with the various gravitational forces acting in the vicinity of Earth.

Do you toy with or do astrophysics for a living?? I've always been curious of the scope of interplay between gravity & magnetism, as well as the 'unknowns' of the universe.

 

[Danoff]

Do you toy with or do astrophysics for a living?? I've always been curious of the scope of interplay between gravity & magnetism, as well as the 'unknowns' of the universe.

Yea, I work in spacecraft navigation. Magnetism and gravity are very different. What interplay did you have in mind? The Earth's magnetic field is more of a planetary geology subject than astrodynamics.

 

[SolidSnake15]

There is no known centre of the universe and we are defiantly NOT at the centre if there is one. You = Physics Failure.

Ah I'm so stupid!!!! I meant center of the galaxy. Dangit.

 

[FoolKiller]

Ah I'm so stupid!!!! I meant center of the galaxy. Dangit.

Judging by other galaxies, and the theory that there is a black hole in the center of the galaxy, I believe that the center of the galxy would be pretty gorram obvious if it were only five years off, making it much less than five light years away.


And considering we are in one of the arms of our galaxy........

You and astronomy = fail.

 

[ExigeEvan]

Nano technology will be huge, and we may even have technology implanted into us to aid in communication/identification.

I also believe that it will take only a few more generations (maybe later than 2100, perhaps 2300) for there to be a genetic elite. No, I don't mean heroes style, but with the prolonged life of people with genetic diseases that allows them to have their own children with sometimes inherited genetic traits (or maybe even skip a generation) a split will become noticeable.

 

[SolidSnake15]

Judging by other galaxies, and the theory that there is a black hole in the center of the galaxy, I believe that the center of the galxy would be pretty gorram obvious if it were only five years off, making it much less than five light years away.


And considering we are in one of the arms of our galaxy........

You and astronomy = fail.

*sarcasm*STOP MAKING FUN OF ME!!!!!!!!

Lol. I'm just going by rumors. Remember I'm still young.

 

[FoolKiller]

Lol. I'm just going by rumors. Remember I'm still young.

I see that. Easy mistake made by believing the wrong people who don't know what they are talking about. Hey, some people still believe we are the center of the universe and the Earth isn't a sphere.


Let me draw you a map:

 

[Joey D]

Hey, some people still believe we are the center of the universe and the Earth isn't a sphere.

Like fundamentalist Christians.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/0807tj.asp

 

[Solid Lifters]

*sarcasm*STOP MAKING FUN OF ME!!!!!!!!

Lol. I'm just going by rumors. Remember I'm still young.

Whatever you do, kid, don't travel too far on Earth. You'll fall off the edge.

 

[SolidSnake15]

Whatever you do, kid, don't travel too far on Earth. You'll fall off the edge.

Don't want that happening!

 

[Alfaholic]

It's my understanding that shifts in the earth's magnetic field have to do with movement in the crust and interior rather than external forces.

According to a novel I am currently reading involving huge killer waves and whirlpools and a crazy scientist from WW2, you are correct

 

[Sting]

My prediction:

The Machines will Rise against us!

 

[Sureboss]

Like fundamentalist Christians.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/0807tj.asp

Wrong forum, should be in the humour section...

 

[Silverzone]

Prediction: The Rolling Stones perform their 35th Farewell Tour.

 

[Sureboss]

The Vatican will have developed the Nuclear Bomb and we will all be catholics. The Bomb will be shaped like Jesus on the cross.

 

[kikie]

People, you all watch too much television.




It's simple, the first warp engine will be invented.

 

[Shannon]

The Mayans didn't say much, but they are one of the most anal cultures when it comes to Time and thier calendar. Makes one wonder, why they stopped calculating thier calender at 2012.

They didn't. December 21, 2012 is simply when the Mayan long count reaches 13.0.0.0.0. Because the calendar is Base-20 (except for the 4th digit which is Base-18), the calendar ends on 19.19.19.17.19. Well, actually it just rolls over to 1.0.0.0.0.0 and continues on. Either way, that equates to October 12, 4772 — a long way away.

The whole doomsday thing originates from the Mayan idea that we are currently living in the 4th creation, with the previous 3 being failures by the gods. World #3 ended on 12.19.19.17.19 and therefore the 4th (current) began on 13.0.0.0.0. So people think that the world will end when the calendar reaches 12.19.19.17.19 again (December 20) and a new world will start on December 21.

Read.

 

[FoolKiller]

Like fundamentalist Christians.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/0807tj.asp

That would be what I was hinting at. By the way, I think that article should be put in the funny news thread.

According to a novel I am currently reading involving huge killer waves and whirlpools and a crazy scientist from WW2, you are correct

And that proves it all right there.

I am curious how the idea of the poles shifting causing tidal phenomena came about. I thought tides were a result of gravitational forces.


What would happen if the poles switched? I imagine it could do everything from utter disaster to just a matter of recalibrating some (a lot of) equipment.


My favorite disaster scenario for the next century is the Yellowstone supervolcano erupting.



But more on topic: I think we will definitely be moved along greatly in technology. I think that we will have at least explored Mars and hopefully be happening upon a form of propulsion that will allow interstellar travel, albeit still at under light speed, but definitely at relativistic speeds so the explorers themselves don't notice the years. I am putting more bets on that than I am any kind of stasis during travel. Stasis or hibernation or whatever just seems like you are risking a lot of side effects.

Also I imagine we will be no closer to curing certain diseases like AIDS, however some forms of cancer will be something that we can stop. The whole treating a disease makes more money than curing it anti-establishment idea does not apply to cancer as it is not caused by a micro-organism. Cancer will never be practically wiped out the way many diseases in western civilization is. It is a genetic screw up basically and we will always get it, and then in cases where it gets into the blood or endocrine systems we still wouldn't be able stop it because it will spread too fast. We also wouldn't be able to stop it after it has progressed so far. But in cases where it isn't being transported around the body non-stop and hasn't managed to grow too large we will have a good way to stop it.

Other microbial based diseases will be cured too, even if it is from a regularly administered vaccine.

We will also have genetic treatments, and while not by 2100, maybe afterward that will lead to ways to cure congenital defects. The rich may even be able to have a child made to order the way they like it. Genetics will definitely allow for better cloning of animals that will possibly help us to truly provide food to the areas that still struggle with hunger.


And I imagine that as a personal fuel source we will move away from oil and more toward something else. We won't be oil free. Far from it. We need it for too many other everyday things. I just think personal vehicles will be moving toward a new fuel source as the technologies will have become cheaper and oil possibly more expensive as other countries develop. However gasoline will still be used in some cases as many will have classics, which haven't even been made today.

 

[Danoff]

I am curious how the idea of the poles shifting causing tidal phenomena came about. I thought tides were a result of gravitational forces.

Yes, tides are caused by lunar gravity. Regardless of how the Earth is oriented, the moon will still create an equatorial bulge. The shifting of the poles is something else entirely. If we're talking about magnetic poles shifting, then I'm not sure what effects we'd see, but I doubt they'd be major. If we're talking about landmass movement in the crust, that's going to take a long time.

I think that we will have at least explored Mars and hopefully be happening upon a form of propulsion that will allow interstellar travel, albeit still at under light speed, but definitely at relativistic speeds so the explorers themselves don't notice the years.

It's a good dream, but we're nowhere near that kind of propulsion breakthrough. Largely, space travel is still done the way it was on day 1 - blow **** up to push you around. We do have ion propulsion these days, but it's brand new stuff and it's not going to be useful for interstellar travel. What you're talking about would have to be accomplished by some sort of completely new concept in propulsion - something we've basically seen only once since the dawn of space travel.