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This article was published by Andrew Evans (@Famine) on July 30th, 2019 in the Gaming category.
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Nothing was going to help the Xbox one after its E3 reveal. You don't cock up that badly and recover.The funny thing is that they've not spent anywhere near as much on marketing as MS have, or paid to try bias media towards them.
Yeah, but I think it was all about that price. They could have recovered from the crappy reveal if they were at $399, at least enough to make the sales race somewhat competitive. But coming in asking $100 more for a somewhat less powerful console was just a horrendous mistake.Nothing was going to help the Xbox one after its E3 reveal. You don't cock up that badly and recover.
Yeah, but I think it was all about that price. They could have recovered from the crappy reveal if they were at $399, at least enough to make the sales race somewhat competitive. But coming in asking $100 more for a somewhat less powerful console was just a horrendous mistake.
Not only that but the aside the 100 dollars more, the reveal is the corporatism at worst. DRM, used games restrictions, forced Kinect....I think you know the rest of it already.Yeah, but I think it was all about that price. They could have recovered from the crappy reveal if they were at $399, at least enough to make the sales race somewhat competitive. But coming in asking $100 more for a somewhat less powerful console was just a horrendous mistake.
The PS4 won big time this generation simply by not being the XBone or Wii U, but not because it's much better than either of them in and of itself (excluding the Wii U being weaker). They all have terrible UIs and sluggish OSes, multimedia clutter, and a lack of storage (by proportion). Not to mention the PS4 and XBone have almost all the same games, and the difference in hardware is moot for most of them.
What Sony did right most of all is just not 🤬 up their marketing.
It really is absurd how terrible they both are compared to the 360's Dashboard and especially the XMB.They all have terrible UIs and sluggish OSes,
Sony sold 150 million PS2s in the 6 months-ish of the PS2's life where that was arguably true?
It really is absurd how terrible they both are compared to the 360's Dashboard and especially the XMB.
It was weird how much hardware performance — despite very little between the two — mattered in 2013, but didn't in 2016/2017, when the gap between the two higher-spec consoles was bigger...
By february 2014 the price was already at $399 at most places, the console wasn't selling, then they took out the kinect and lowered the price further. Xone has been consistently cheaper than PS4 for years now, the console simply isn't selling. And the problem isn't the price, it's the games. When PS3 took a beating in the begginning of 7th gen Sony shut the hell up and worked on the most important thing - the games, and starting from 2009 they really took off - Killzone 2, Infamous, Uncharted 2, LBP, then 2010 - GoW 3, Heavy Rain, GT5, and so on until literally the last days of PS3 with Beyond and GT6. MS by comparison took the foot off the gas at the first signs of failure and never brought anything high quality. The two games that define Xbox this generation are Ori and Cuphead, fantastic games, but not exactly what you'd expect.Yeah, but I think it was all about that price. They could have recovered from the crappy reveal if they were at $399, at least enough to make the sales race somewhat competitive. But coming in asking $100 more for a somewhat less powerful console was just a horrendous mistake.
I've used a PS4 much more recently than a PS3 or 360. Its UI is atrocious in comparison regardless of if it is "faster," as is the Xbone's.I'm sorry but that is complete and absolute nonsense. Honestly when's the last time you've actually used a 360? Because I've used mine recently because I just got it a year ago and still have games I need to play. It's faster than PS3 but no where near as fast as PS4.
You might want to make a visit to digital foundry videos. Xbox One X being better is practically all you see in the comments section. The xbox fanboys are getting their revenge in full there. Maybe you should join them since you seem to be bothered that people aren't talking about Xbox One X being better than Pro as much as they did about PS4 being better than Xbox One
I've used a PS4 much more recently than a PS3 or 360. Its UI is atrocious in comparison regardless of if it is "faster," as is the Xbone's.
You just proved my entire point. "By Feb 2014...." Exactly. By launching at that price, it killed everything. It didn't matter that it dropped by Feb 2014. Personally, I've been completely content with my PS4 this entire generation. I just never found a reason to buy an Xbox, which says a lot. So I agree that the games are a massive part of the problem.....but that wasn't the case at launch. That became the narrative later on.By february 2014 the price was already at $399 at most places, the console wasn't selling, then they took out the kinect and lowered the price further. Xone has been consistently cheaper than PS4 for years now, the console simply isn't selling. And the problem isn't the price, it's the games. When PS3 took a beating in the begginning of 7th gen Sony shut the hell up and worked on the most important thing - the games, and starting from 2009 they really took off - Killzone 2, Infamous, Uncharted 2, LBP, then 2010 - GoW 3, Heavy Rain, GT5, and so on until literally the last days of PS3 with Beyond and GT6. MS by comparison took the foot off the gas at the first signs of failure and never brought anything high quality. The two games that define Xbox this generation are Ori and Cuphead, fantastic games, but not exactly what you'd expect.
It's important to remember that PS3 was significantly more expensive than Xbox 360 and launched a year late and had crappy 3rd party versions, but it still managed to outsell it in the end. The xbox brand has some power in the US and the UK, but in the rest of the world it might as well not exist at all, the brand power Sony has built up since PS1 is just way too strong to compete with, even when they did everything wrong with PS3 it still sold 85+ mil consoles.You just proved my entire point. "By Feb 2014...." Exactly. By launching at that price, it killed everything. It didn't matter that it dropped by Feb 2014. Personally, I've been completely content with my PS4 this entire generation. I just never found a reason to buy an Xbox, which says a lot. So I agree that the games are a massive part of the problem.....but that wasn't the case at launch. That became the narrative later on.
The worst has to be looking at communities, sometimes it takes minutes to load but most of the time it just fails.It still boggles my mind that hitting the Share button on a DS4 and trying to save a screenshot in SWBF2 can take upwards of five seconds.