Forza Motorsport 6 Featured in Games With Gold Lineup for August

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Forza Motorsport 6 Featured in Games With Gold Lineup for August

This article was published by Michael Leary (@Terronium-12) on July 30th, 2019 in the Forza Motorsport 6 category.

 

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Forza Motorsport 6 Leaves Microsoft Store September 15

This article was published by Kyle Patrick (@SlipZtrEm) on August 6th, 2019 in the Forza Motorsport 6 category.

 

[Jay84]

Gotta love how MS honors the legacy of Forza by removing them and their dlc from existence. All hail the "brilliant" digital only future.

 

[Cowboy]

Makes me wonder if Apex will also be removed, being that it was basically Forza 6 for PC.

 

[George Jakob]

Why all company's do that? Its 🤬

 

[Cowboy]

Why all company's do that? Its 🤬

Licensing with manufacturers.

 

[George Jakob]

Licensing with manufacturers.

How does licensing effect that?

 

[BadFlounder]

How does licensing effect that?

Because licensing is typically done on a contractual basis. Like how Porsche was with EA for years or how Pikes Peak is now with Polyphony, etc. It’s a complex issue, but the simple way to put it is it doesn’t make a lot of financial sense for these companies to go back to older games and re-do licensing agreements (which costs money). I would imagine they typically focus licensing budgets on the current game or games releasing in the near future. The same issue can affect other sports games as well. Like how FIFA lost Juventus this year because they decided to go exclusive with PES. All the car companies have their own agendas when it comes to licensing their products. Race tracks too. Like I said, it’s a complicated mess. Lol

 

[George Jakob]

Because licensing is typically done on a contractual basis. Like how Porsche was with EA for years or how Pikes Peak is now with Polyphony, etc. It’s a complex issue, but the simple way to put it is it doesn’t make a lot of financial sense for these companies to go back to older games and re-do licensing agreements (which costs money). I would imagine they typically focus licensing budgets on the current game or games releasing in the near future. The same issue can affect other sports games as well. Like how FIFA lost Juventus this year because they decided to go exclusive with PES. All the car companies have their own agendas when it comes to licensing their products. Race tracks too. Like I said, it’s a complicated mess. Lol

So if mercedes dosen't want to be with GT anymore Sony must pull GT6 off the store for example?.

 

[palqo]

So if mercedes dosen't want to be with GT anymore Sony must pull GT6 off the store for example?.

You can't just decide to not want a contract that you already signed before you changed your mind

 

[SimTourist]

So if mercedes dosen't want to be with GT anymore Sony must pull GT6 off the store for example?.

Old contracts and ongoing contracts are different. They have a negotiated time of licensing, and yes GT6 will be pulled at some point when a contract expires, we don't know when.

 

[George Jakob]

You can't just decide to not want a contract that you already signed before you changed your mind

I know

Old contracts and ongoing contracts are different. They have a negotiated time of licensing, and yes GT6 will be pulled at some point when a contract expires, we don't know when.

Oh that makes sense i actually really want to learn about licensing in racing games.

 

[KepleroGT]

Can't imagine what they will do with cloud gaming.

 

[KamatsuKyoto]

Anybody knows if FM6 Apex gonna be discounted too (and possibly removed)?

 

[Calmlity]

I am afraid Milestone's MotoGP and Codemaster's F1 series will also be delisted in near future.

 

[mokalovesoulmat]

I know

Oh that makes sense i actually really want to learn about licensing in racing games.

Licensing stuff is kind of...you have a work, and you want to use someone else's work to be used in your work. You cannot just use someone else's work for your own work's benefit. Because if that someone knows that apparently you got money/benefit from your own work, they know that they got nothing (exposure does not have value here lol) and they will sue you. Because your work is made to be sold, which is, makes money, then someone else's work also should be benefited. Not just you. Then, comes agreement. Or licensing. That someone is licensing you to use their work to be used on your work, for commercial context.

This is valid for everything, not just racing games.

 

[George Jakob]

Licensing stuff is kind of...you have a work, and you want to use someone else's work to be used in your work. You cannot just use someone else's work for your own work's benefit. Because if that someone knows that apparently you got money/benefit from your own work, they know that they got nothing (exposure does not have value here lol) and they will sue you. Because your work is made to be sold, which is, makes money, then someone else's work also should be benefited. Not just you. Then, comes agreement. Or licensing. That someone is licensing you to use their work to be used on your work, for commercial context.

This is valid for everything, not just racing games.

Thank you but i already know the concept lol

 

[prousonhairy]

Will you still be able to download it, if you own the game but it’s currently uninstalled?

 

[George Jakob]

Will you still be able to download it, if you own the game but it’s currently uninstalled?

Im not sure but i think as long as the game is on your download list / library or whatever its called you are fine.

 

[Auditore]

Racing games suffer alot from digital versions,licensing those games must be hell.It is always better to buy a physical disc just in case...

 

[FoRiZon]

Im not sure but i think as long as the game is on your download list / library or whatever its called you are fine.

You can thank for customer protection laws for that.

 

[fernandito]

All hail the "brilliant" digital only future.

amen reverendo

 

[Bogie 19th]

This isn't any different than before digital. At some point they stop making physical copies as well, and that means you have to find used copies. Just like FM6, which was also a physical release (as they will be with the next Xbox as well). If you own FM6 digitally, you can always redownload it, you can still play it. If you have a physical copy, you can still download it.

 

[BadFlounder]

So if mercedes dosen't want to be with GT anymore Sony must pull GT6 off the store for example?.

Exactly. The contracts aren't like relationships where you can just decide "you don't want to be with someone". At least not without a potentially expensive legal battle, etc. But, if the contract is not renewed AND the old contract did not give Sony the ability to license the cars in perpetuity? THen yes, they would have to pull the game. What you are describing is essentially what is happening with Forza 6, as happened with Forza Horizon 2, Dirt 2, and many other racing games.

 

[George Jakob]

Exactly. The contracts aren't like relationships where you can just decide "you don't want to be with someone". At least not without a potentially expensive legal battle, etc. But, if the contract is not renewed AND the old contract did not give Sony the ability to license the cars in perpetuity? THen yes, they would have to pull the game. What you are describing is essentially what is happening with Forza 6, as happened with Forza Horizon 2, Dirt 2, and many other racing games.

Well thats quite harsh...

 

[BadFlounder]

Well thats quite harsh...

Yeah, sorry, I guess I'm still harboring some resentments from relationships past. I hate all this licensing nonsense because I would buy digital versions of these old games in a hearbeat, especially GT3 and GT4. I would love to play through those games again on my PS4.

 

[George Jakob]

Yeah, sorry, I guess I'm still harboring some resentments from relationships past. I hate all this licensing nonsense because I would buy digital versions of these old games in a hearbeat, especially GT3 and GT4. I would love to play through those games again on my PS4.

Same thank you for all the info you seem to know about this stuff have you worked on licensing before?

 

[Cowboy]

Will you still be able to download it, if you own the game but it’s currently uninstalled?

I would assume no since I'm unable to reinstall Forza Motorsport 5, which was digitally installed. It doesn't even appear in my games list anywhere.

 

[George Jakob]

I would assume no since I'm unable to reinstall Forza Motorsport 5, which was digitally installed. It doesn't even appear in my games list anywhere.

Oh... then 🤬

 

[Jay84]

I would assume no since I'm unable to reinstall Forza Motorsport 5, which was digitally installed. It doesn't even appear in my games list anywhere.

Sounds like daylight robbery... If you paid for it its yours.