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This is the discussion thread for a recent post on GTPlanet:
This article was published by Andrew Evans (@Famine) on March 3rd, 2020 in the Automotive News category.
McLaren Reveals 765LT, With More Power and Less Weight
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I'm not complaining about two superb supercars which punch well above their weight (price-wise) being unveiled on the same day. The 720S is already monstrously fast, can't wait to see how this performs in drag races. I'm hoping Carwow is among the first on the list to get their hands on a 765LT!
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Just swapping the 6 and 7!
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I'd like to imagine McLaren produced a too many "675" badges and had to call this the 765 so the digits wouldn't go to waste.
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Let's play bingo on what model variant McLaren will release next shall we?
Type - GT / Mixed / Track / Roadster
Track Series - N/A / P1 GTR / Senna GTR / N/A
Ultimate Series - Speedtail / P1 / Senna / Elva
Super Series - GT / 720S / 765LT / 720S Spider
Sport Series - 570GT / 570S / 600LT or 620R / 570S Spider
They already said they won't do a track version of the Speedtail, so my guess is a more hardcore version of the Elva. That is, unless they are planning an abomination that is called an SUV
Type - GT / Mixed / Track / Roadster
Track Series - N/A / P1 GTR / Senna GTR / N/A
Ultimate Series - Speedtail / P1 / Senna / Elva
Super Series - GT / 720S / 765LT / 720S Spider
Sport Series - 570GT / 570S / 600LT or 620R / 570S Spider
They already said they won't do a track version of the Speedtail, so my guess is a more hardcore version of the Elva. That is, unless they are planning an abomination that is called an SUV
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The P1 is not in production anymore. The successor will come by 2025, including many other models as announced two years ago
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/go...official-mclaren-confirms-p1-successor-coming
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Mclaren's propensity to shotgun-blast new models I think will ultimately hurt the brand. When I see a Ferrari 458 or even a F430 I tend to think "prized original-owner modern classic". When I see a 650s or 12c I tend to think "used car". But maybe that's just me.
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Goes down to the used market. Cars are losing value off the lot, dealers will negotiate discounts instead of holding firm on 3 month old units, no incentive for owners to trade in back to the dealers like Ferrari; awful buyback programs. They just build and build and build and dealers retain too much inventory at times.
LeGeNd-1
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Yeah I'm aware of that. Technically all cars I listed will have a replacement coming at some point in the future. I was more trying to predict what variant special model they will release next based on cars we already know.
Wasn't there also a model planned based on the Ultimate Vision GT called the BC03? Wonder what happened to that one.
https://jalopnik.com/okay-nobody-look-at-these-mclaren-bc-03-pictures-becaus-1838660130
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The main difference is the amount of supply and the size of the customer bases.
if you want a 992, there are very few in stock and you’re looking at a decent lead time to get one. Turbo/S/GT models even harder to get hold of. Similar for a 488.
As a result, the used cars hold their value reasonably well.
If you want a McLaren, virtually any model is available on short lead times, and dealers have loads (relatively speaking) of stock of nearly new models at heavily discounted prices.
Fancy a 720? Late 2019 cars are available, sub hundred miles, highly specced... at £80-90k off a list of c.280-300. Fancy trading up from your 570? You can’t get a trade in bid off a McLaren dealer... there as so many of them in the network relative to the number of people who want to own one.
You’d have no issues getting a (decent) bid on your 991.2 from an OPC. And they would literally bite your hand off if you called them and asked them if they’d like to take your 991 Turbo S off your hands for stock.
Mclaren as a company have been far too greedy pushing volume too quickly... including launching multiple versions of the same car to try and get existing customers to trade up. Porsche have a lot of 99x models, but other than the gt/turbos, they are choices rather than trade ups.... customers don’t go from a Carrera to an S to a GTS to a Turbo/GT3 in the same model lifecycle.
Other than for the diehard fans and super rich (the ones that can afford to drop 100k depreciation in 12 months), Mclaren brand image is shot and may never recover. They are fast becoming the Citroen of the supercar market... only selling cars with a 20-25% discount.
