5 reasons GT6 is a PS4 game

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Toronado
Stop making stuff up. They bought a cloud gaming startup company. There are any number of reasons they could have bought it. That doesn't mean Sony is going to rollout a major streaming service for games, and it sure as hell has nothing to do with 4k.
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Now you are making stuff up by writing like this.(sorry, but there is too much written about this now not to be so)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304299704577502251530610804.html

http://www.gaikai.com/qa

Sony paid 380M $ because this is the future. No matter what TV or console you have you can play the games. No hardware limitations as long as bandwith is there. And if i read all that is said about this, its all about gaming!
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-09-21-nvidia-gm-consoles-entering-their-last-generation
 
The first article just says the purchased it, the second is an opinion piece.

By the way have you considered how powerful the servers would have to be to serve 4k video down the internet to MILLIONS of people? Current game streaming services struggle to do 720p without having graphics settings turned down. But now you think Sony buying Gaikai means they have the technology to serve 4k games? Yeah right.
 
perhaps not stream 4k now but sooner or later it will. and perhaps the ps4 can do some help.
either way streaming is a fact. and maybe gt6 will be a multiplatform game...you have your savedata on sony cloudservice so its possible to do this for singleracing.
something new will come, im sure of it.
and please, gaikai is official...what else do you need to belive????

and servers can do what you say...easier to set up servers for raw performance. scalable too through virtualization.
 
It's a fact that they bought Gaikai, it's not a fact they're going to use it to stream PS4 games.

GT6 multiplatform? Now you have gone mad.
 
but the bandwith isn't there worldwide.

and Sony to have a house title go multiplatform. Not a cat in hells chance.
 
Mulan
Now you are making stuff up by writing like this.
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Oh? Let's see the proof you finally came up with to back the claim that I'm making things up:



Mulan
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304299704577502251530610804.html
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Hm. Pretty sure I'm aware that Sony bought them since I said that Sony bought them, so I'm not sure what that proves.

Mulan
http://www.gaikai.com/qa
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This, too, is an interesting link to bring up to prove I'm making things up considering I acknowledged that I knew what Gakai was.

Mulan
Sony paid 380M $ because this is the future.
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Because Sony has never made a bad investment before, of course. That's why they are absolutely rolling in all the money that they would need to have to do the other things you keep making up.

Mulan
No matter what TV or console you have you can play the games. No hardware limitations as long as bandwith is there.
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Yeah, I'm aware of the sales pitch. Thanks.

Mulan
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-09-21-nvidia-gm-consoles-entering-their-last-generation
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Ooh. An piece written by someone whose job it is to talk up cloud gaming? That sure is irrefutable proof, alright!




I'm also going to point out that you produced a link to prove something you've been arguing that directly refutes the other thing you've been arguing:
experiences that are beyond the capability of cloud gaming in the near future (like 4K resolution) might be more than consumers are interested in (or given the price of compatible displays, prepared to take advantage of).
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Toronado
Oh? Let's see the proof you finally came up with to back the claim that I'm making things up:




Hm. Pretty sure I'm aware that Sony bought them since I said that Sony bought them, so I'm not sure what that proves.


This, too, is an interesting link to bring up to prove I'm making things up considering I acknowledged that I knew what Gakai was.


Because Sony has never made a bad investment before, of course. That's why they are absolutely rolling in all the money that they would need to have to do the other things you keep making up.


Yeah, I'm aware of the sales pitch. Thanks.


Ooh. An piece written by someone whose job it is to talk up cloud gaming? That sure is irrefutable proof, alright!




I'm also going to point out that you produced a link to prove something you've been arguing that directly refutes the other thing you've been arguing:
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Ok so you aknowledge the company and what they do and still say Sony bought them just because they are losuy in making investments? So facts: Its a streaming company for games. Sony invest looots of money in this and you still say, no way Sony can stream games. So please if you have proof of this then show it. Oh, or wait...we are on a GT6 forum...the game is not released, perhaps that is something you think is just a hoax from PD too?
 
Mulan
Ok so you aknowledge the company and what they do and still say Sony bought them just because they are losuy in making investments? So facts: Its a streaming company for games. Sony invest looots of money in this and you still say, no way Sony can stream games. So please if you have proof of this then show it. Oh, or wait...we are on a GT6 forum...the game is not released, perhaps that is something you think is just a hoax from PD too?
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The reason why they will probably not be streaming games is as stated by someone else alot if the worlds internet are not up to it.

In australia we have only just started rolling out fibre to the premises and only a small percentage will have the bandwidth to handle that kind of gaming.

Im sorry I dont see how streaming games can be a reality by the time ps4 comes out as people are running copper which the speed is dependant on the distance from the exchange and can only handle so much bandwidth.

Sorry should have said streaming 4k games.
 
Mulan
Ok so you aknowledge the company and what they do and still say Sony bought them just because they are losuy in making investments? So facts: Its a streaming company for games. Sony invest looots of money in this and you still say, no way Sony can stream games. So please if you have proof of this then show it. Oh, or wait...we are on a GT6 forum...the game is not released, perhaps that is something you think is just a hoax from PD too?
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You're putting words into his mouth again, he never said there was "no way Sony can stream games", he just said:

That doesn't mean Sony is going to rollout a major streaming service for games
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Which is true. They could use it in a much smaller way.
 
SimonK
You're putting words into his mouth again, he never said there was "no way Sony can stream games", he just said:



Which is true. They could use it in a much smaller way.
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http://www.nvidia.com/object/cloud-gaming-benefits.html

Its big business...Sony must explain to their shareholders what they do with 380M $ sooner or later. And there are perhaps other advantages too, like PS4 streaming PS3 games. And of course if its streamed its harder to make "free" copies of the games.
 
thelvynau
The world still needs the bandwidth.
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True, but there are many that have that already..and there are internet cafees...popular in many countries like China. Sweden has good bandwith already. I belive Japan and Korea has that too. There are many places with good bandwidth but ofcourse many are still living with slow connections (there are always places that will be like this). They probably have good statistics for the numbers that can enjoy this. But still, there is no reason to wait just because everyone is not onboard.

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...-why-gaikai-could-change-playstation-forever/

A good read..so you get the idea of cloud potential..
 
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Mulan
True, but there are many that have that already..and there are internet cafees...popular in many countries like China. Sweden has good bandwith already. I belive Japan and Korea has that too. There are many places with good bandwidth but many are still living with slow connections. They probably have good statistics for the numbers that can enjoy this. But still, there is no reason to wait just because everyone is not onboard.
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Yes but its not a case of not everyone onboard its a case of alot are not on board.

That means alot of potential subscribers they will want to target as many people as possible to be viable.
 
thelvynau
Yes but its not a case of not everyone onboard its a case of alot are not on board.

That means alot of potential subscribers they will want to target as many people as possible to be viable.
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I put in a link on previous post. If they succeed they can reach new customers. Bandwith will grow in one way or another, there is a demand for this as almost everything is getting connected. Cars, homeappliances, tv's, phones, pads, computers, GPS devices, tv-streaming, electricity management....GT6 :)
 
Mulan
I put in a link on previous post. If they succeed they can reach new customers. Bandwith will grow in one way or another, there is a demand for this as almost everything is getting connected. Cars, homeappliances, tv's, phones, pads, computers, GPS devices, tv-streaming, electricity management....GT6 :)
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Without the infrastructure they wont reach these people.
 
Maybe we should get back to "reasons GT6 is a PS4 game" because this has just turned into general PS4 talk now.
 
SimonK
Maybe we should get back to "reasons GT6 is a PS4 game" because this has just turned into general PS4 talk now.
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Agreed this has drifted off topic.
 
Hyped
Did you ever play GT4? It's completely different. The A-Spec mode has more variety, the GT Mode display is much better, the car selection is better, no standards, and in total, there is more difficulty.
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Car selection is better? how is that? GT5 has all the cars GT4 had and a bunch more. The only way GT4 beats GT5 is OFFLINE A spec. Overall A spec when you include seasonals, GT4 gets crapped on. Not to mention the physics are night and day, GT5s physics crap on GT4s with ease. Hell, GT5s physics crap on GT5p's physics alone, and GT5p was a big step up from GT4. Not to mention, GT5 has online, physical damage, course maker, better track selection, online, better cars, graphics, online, and online. Basically, GT4 is covered in crap because it was comprehensively beaten by GT5, and crapped on repeatedly
 
TomBrady
Car selection is better? how is that? GT5 has all the cars GT4 had and a bunch more. The only way GT4 beats GT5 is OFFLINE A spec. Overall A spec when you include seasonals, GT4 gets crapped on. Not to mention the physics are night and day, GT5s physics crap on GT4s with ease. Hell, GT5s physics crap on GT5p's physics alone, and GT5p was a big step up from GT4. Not to mention, GT5 has online, physical damage, course maker, better track selection, online, better cars, graphics, online, and online. Basically, GT4 is covered in crap because it was comprehensively beaten by GT5, and crapped on repeatedly
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You really know how to put your point across, don't you? That's a lot of craps.

Why are you quoting a post from August anyway?
 
SimonK
You really know how to put your point across, don't you? That's a lot of craps.

Why are you quoting a post from August anyway?
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To put his point across.
 
SimonK
Ok let's clear this up.

This is an AMD HD7970 GPU, close to the top of the range on todays GPU market. It retails for £320+ alone, depending on the version.

Now here are some benchmarks for Battlefield 3 running at 5760x1080 resolution with ultra settings and also compared to the comparative priced GTX 680.

Note that the top two results are SLI and Crossfire, TWO of those cards running together. Total cost = £600+. They don't even manage 60fps with AA turned on, the single cards barely manage 30fps.

That is at 5760x1080 resolution. Number of pixels total - 6,220,800.

Now 4k, if you take the 3840 x 2160 UHDTV spec and what PD are sampling GT5 at, number of pixels total = 8,294,400. That's a 33% increase in pixel density.

So in conclusion if a £330 GPU cannot manage 30fps with that resolution how on earth is a GPU much less powerful and cheaper going to manage that + a 33% increase in pixel density?
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We have a winner. 4K gaming on PS4 will not be possible .
 
ch3ng
We have a winner. 4K gaming on PS4 will not be possible .
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We shall see...if they include WiGig technology in the PS4 i belive they go for a different solution and there can be enough power.
 
ch3ng
We have a winner. 4K gaming on PS4 will not be possible .
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Looks like someone knows the specs of the PS4 already.

We have good arguments for 4k gaming on the PS4 and also reasonably arguments against it. Now we have to wait and see how it all turns out.

But to dismiss the possibility is not right at the moment.
 
Why is everyone arguing about 4k the simple matter is (the way i see it anyway) it will NOT come to ps4 just take time and read Simonk's post they make SENSE

Someone should make a seperate thread for this unless there is one already
 
SimonK
What has WiFi got to do with 4k?
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Its Wifi on steroids. So just call it wifi is really wrong.
All i want to say is that new standards are coming fast and they will change alot of how things work and what they can be capable of.
For example, a Wigig can take power from other Wigig devices to get more computingpower like graphics. If they cant make one ps4 do 4k then 2 PS4 or 1ps4 + your computer...or you have one computer and all other devices use its power so a tablet can have lots of power.

Now i know this is another techstuff that i dont know if its implemented in the PS4...although it would be great if it was, but it shows that we cant know what it will be capable of in 1-2 years from now.

WiGig will be demonstrated at CES 2013 so we will see it coming fast and PS4 should have really good use of it.
 
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Your ideas are crazy. Now you think PS4 will have tech not out yet and people will buy two PS4 consoles and also use their PC, just for 4k gaming?
 
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