580PP Non-Racing Car and Tuned Car Super Lap: Special Stage Route 5

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Had a break from NSX thrashing recently (the kids apparently dont sort themselves out).
Gave it a run in 609bhp F40

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5 seconds slower than NSX but double the effort, and its a tiny bit challenging :-)
 
Ok, so I somehow thought this was a 500pp event and was running my ZZII with that as the limit. Surprisingly, I managed a 1:30.1xx before realizing I at like half the power I should have. In the hands of an alien, this could mean the ZZII would have golded this event with 80 less pp.

Anyway, went at it again and easily got 1:25.3xx. Done.
 
Something British and very cool.

An easy gold tune

McLaren MP4-12C '10 (600PP SS) - Build as stated, then remove power parts and reduce PP limiter.

Link here

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used this one today but unlike all your other tunes i've used,this doesn't suit me :(.
at least on this track.
i'm struggling to keep it out of the wall.
i know i'm also kind of crappy driver.
i think i'm gonna edit the stiffness of your suspension,it could work better for me maybe.
 
Ok, so I somehow thought this was a 500pp event and was running my ZZII with that as the limit. Surprisingly, I managed a 1:30.1xx before realizing I at like half the power I should have. In the hands of an alien, this could mean the ZZII would have golded this event with 80 less pp.
I'll have to try this with my earthling hands.

edit: I just got gold by the slightest of margins using an almost stock ZZII @ 500pp, I only added SS tires and set the power limiter to 57.0%.

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used this one today but unlike all your other tunes i've used,this doesn't suit me :(.
at least on this track.
i'm struggling to keep it out of the wall.
i know i'm also kind of crappy driver.
i think i'm gonna edit the stiffness of your suspension,it could work better for me maybe.
I'll repeat what I was told some time last year, "loose is faster". Slow down until you get familiar with the behavior of the car. Brake in a straight line and use gentle steering inputs.
 
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Sure thing. I got the transmission settings from a Praiano tune a long while ago. I've read that it's good practice to tweak your setup for each track, but I can't be bothered that much so I just run the same tune everywhere. I hope shaunm80 doesn't mind me copying his template to post this tune.

NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car

580PP
586 BHP
1,143 kgs
Weight Distribution 45:55

Sports Soft Tires

Change Oil (I think I did)

FC Sus
F/R
65/65
9.10/9.00
7/7
8/8
5/5
0.0/0.0
-0.10/-0.40

Racing Brake Kit
7/5

FC Transmission
Reset Transmission
Set final gear to 5.500
Set max speed to 124mph
1st 3.735
2nd 2.849
3rd 2.301
4th 1.900
5th 1.593
6th 1.351
Set final gear to 3.730

FC LSD
8/12/15

Power
Set power limiter to 94.6%
Engine Tuning: Stage 3

Body
Downforce 350/600
Weight Reduction: Stage 3

edit: Here's Praiano's tune.

With so few tunes posted here these days, one has to give due credits to the ones there is...
Thanks for posting this :cheers:
It has got me a 1:17.870 using DS3 with ABS=1, TC=1 and AS Strong.
 
Finally had a chance to use the Amuse S2000 Turbo, as a tuner car this always seems excluded from "normal" or "racing" categories. This was a fave back in GT5 and easily 2 seconds quicker than other 580pp cars like Nismo GTR and 458.
 
Yeah, credit to @t_wilson01 for posting a setup.
No-one is really posting setups anymore, but then again, who can blame them for stopping considering that GT6 is kind of dying, and that the most committed and contributing members get banned, no wonder setups isn't being posted.

Lets change things up!!:crazy:
Here is my setup for the Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car, it got me 1:16.7 with comfort, and can do more if you're committed:tup::

Suspension:
Ride height: 80/60
Spring rate: 5.50/16.00
Dampers compression: 3/3
Dampers extension: 2/4
Anti-roll bars: 7/7
Camber angle: 0.0/0.0
Toe angle: 0.00/-0.20
Brake balance: 6/5

Transmisson:
Reset to default
Set final gear to 4.000 then set max speed to 200km/h
1'st: 4.992
2'nd: 3.930
3'rd: 3.240
4'th: 2.660
5'th: 2.190
6'th: 1.815
Final gear: 2.700

Differential:
Initial torque: 5
Acceleration sensitivity: 12
Braking sensitivity: 20

Power:
Oil change, High-range Turbo
Limiter: 71.7

Body:
Improve body rigidity
Weight reduction Stage 3
Downforce: 350/600
No ballast
 
My time is a little bit slower than yours with a time of 1:26.991 using the BMW M3 GTR.
Is your M3 at 500pp and stock? If so I'll have to give it a shot. 👍
Yeah, credit to @t_wilson01 for posting a setup.
No-one is really posting setups anymore, but then again, who can blame them for stopping considering that GT6 is kind of dying, and that the most committed and contributing members get banned, no wonder setups isn't being posted.
I'd have to agree, the GT community is not what it used to be. People have other sims to play with and newer systems to play them on. And that's on top of all the issues GT6 has had since launch.
 
Finally had a chance to use the Amuse S2000 Turbo, as a tuner car this always seems excluded from "normal" or "racing" categories. This was a fave back in GT5 and easily 2 seconds quicker than other 580pp cars like Nismo GTR and 458.

This car was a beast even with an average joe like me at the controls in GT5.
There 'has to be' a quicker car around R5 than the NSX.
Being nostalgic I spotted a 507pp 1999 Dodge (not SRT in 99) Viper with 0 miles on it in my garage, may even paint it red and try the first lap with a standing start
 
Had to try out @TRL_Andromeda's Setup and improved to a 1:17.742 so far. Compared to the fine, allround@t_wilson01-Setup, this Combo-specific tune is -predictably faster, but -also predictably- harder to drive. I feel there is a little more for me in it though...
A question for Andromeda: I cannot quite get your transmission settings. I used your exact upgrades and ultimately set the trans -but i don't get your exact numbers: my 1'st gear minimum is 4.993, my 5'th gear max is 2.191 which is a bit off your numbers. The only potential explanation, i can think of, is that my car has +5000km on it!? But what i'm most puzzled about, is your 6'th gear setting: My cursor goes all the way to 1.858 -and you're recommending 1.815 Are you not on your rightmost setting here? I guess you could have made a final adjustment to get the proper top speed -but i'm not getting a good startline-speed with this: Only about 262km/h. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot for being a rare top driver who still posts Setups!👍
 
I was searching for a challenge today.
So i decided to look for some unusual cars who could be able to barely get the gold time.
First car that caught my attention was the BMW 507. After installing all parts except oil it had 498pp.
Not easy to get a clean lap but got under 1:27 after ca. 60km.
So i was looking for a lower pp car and found the Toyota 2000GT. Wow handles like a dream after driving the BMW.
Took me another 90km to get the gold time.


 
Had to try out @TRL_Andromeda's Setup and improved to a 1:17.742 so far. Compared to the fine, allround@t_wilson01-Setup, this Combo-specific tune is -predictably faster, but -also predictably- harder to drive. I feel there is a little more for me in it though...
A question for Andromeda: I cannot quite get your transmission settings. I used your exact upgrades and ultimately set the trans -but i don't get your exact numbers: my 1'st gear minimum is 4.993, my 5'th gear max is 2.191 which is a bit off your numbers. The only potential explanation, i can think of, is that my car has +5000km on it!? But what i'm most puzzled about, is your 6'th gear setting: My cursor goes all the way to 1.858 -and you're recommending 1.815 Are you not on your rightmost setting here? I guess you could have made a final adjustment to get the proper top speed -but i'm not getting a good startline-speed with this: Only about 262km/h. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot for being a rare top driver who still posts Setups!👍
6'th gear is stretched, because of the limited adjustmedt on 5'th gear (hard to explain) you need low range 2'nd out of the hairpin, and then the rest needs to be lowered to avoid bogging down between gearchanges, so final gear is higher, and 6'th gear lower to avoid hitting rev limiter.

If you did'nt get the gears right, are you sure you had high RPM turbo installed? And did you rest to default and then set the final gear to 4000 before you started tinkering?
 
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@Roweer1 : I just tested on a new car and it works, all numbers are correct. I have noticed this odd thing where the numbers differ by 1, possibly a glitch as I have seen it on new cars too. Buy a new car and you should be fine.

Sometimes the wheelsize has influence on the numbers of the transmission.

This could be the explanation too.
I use +1" size wheels.
 
Thanks for replying to you both. I think i'll go with wheelsize before buying my third NSX -sounds plausible!
 
@Roweer1 : Its interesting that you said you got a bad startline-speed. I did not really pay attention to it.
So I tested a bit, just for you, but it seems about right.
The car has its peak power and torque at 8000 RPM, and falls drastically below that, so if you gear up too early, you'll loose alot of speed. you'll also loose speed if you go too far, as it has no peak torque due to the limiter, so optimum shiftpoint is around 9800-10000 RPM (just BEFORE redline, not on it)

The gap between 5'th and 6'th is the steepest, but you only really change into 6'th once per lap, and thats why it is that way, its only used once, so its not too important. its much more important to get 2'nd, 3'rd, 4'th right.

Now I can imagine you dont have the same exit speed out of final corner as me, and thus wont reach as high top speed. if the shift indicator is'nt flashing red at the end of the straight, feel free to move the 6'th gear slider the the right a bit. :)
 
I guess i shouldn't expect too much more speed at the starting line then. I think it does make sence that a Setup, based on engine stage 3 -tune, would be a tad faster there, than a turbo-based one.;)
 
I guess i shouldn't expect too much more speed at the starting line then. I think it does make sence that a Setup, based on engine stage 3 -tune, would be a tad faster there, than a turbo-based one.;)
Yeah, no doubt, I started with engine stage 3, as it give you ALOT more bhp. then I tried engine 3 + low rpm turbo, wich is a pretty good combination too. then I tried mid range turbo, that has way to little power, then I watched the replay of @GT_Rajman and realized he had stage 3 turbo.
I drove for a bit, but the times was'nt good enough. then I changed oil wich increased torque, and even tho it cost 4 bhp, I improved 9 tenths.

its a balance, mid range turbo is the safest, as it practically never bogs down, and stage 3 engine is probably the fastest, but you need 9458317 gears. 6 gears just is'nt enough to avoid bogging down, especially since there is a super slow hairpin on this track.

In essence, high rpm tubo, OR low rpm turbo + engine 3 is the only combinations that make any sense at all here.
 
Thanks for replying to you both. I think i'll go with wheelsize before buying my third NSX -sounds plausible!

...And that was it! Wheelsize +1 allowes me to plot in the right transmission. Also: Paying extra attention to 6'th gear, it DOES seem to make sense (now?) -as i'm just inside the rev limiter in the tunnel.
To celebrate i wen't out and clocked a 1:17.636 :P
 
Using @TRL_Andromeda 's tune for the Honda NSX-R Prototype Road Car, I've been able just sneak into the 1:18's with a 1:18.859 lap:)

I quite like the tune, especially since its about a half second faster than my own!

Thanks! See you on the track!
GTsail
 
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