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Originally posted by vat_man
Just out of interest - how many of you guys have done advanced driver training?
i took a driver training program (Young Drivers of Canada) before i got my lisence as it was supposed to lower insurance costs by giving me 3 years experience ........it didn't help me learn how to drive and i don't drive the way they taught me ......i'm far from a reckless driver who can't control their vehicle but i would still consider my driving pretty aggressive ......to me, there would be no point in driving if it resembled anything of their teachings (i can be more aggressive on my bike)....i would still recommend the training to people of less confidence and co-ordination for it does do a good job of teaching safe driving......i always wear my seatbelt though as i feel naked without it ...... when i was with my instructor i always wanted to give them a sample of real driving though ....i'm sure they would have been proud of me ;)
 
Interesting.

I did the Jim Murcott school in Melbourne (Aust.), I did the basic and the performance course there.

The basic was okay, but considering I was 20 when I did you can imagine I was pretty bored, but the swerve and recover was a very handy skill that has since more than paid for the course.

The performance course the following week was fantastic though - they ran it at Sandown, and you learnt some good car control techniques, some basic racing techniques. If you can find somewhere that does a more 'performance' oriented course (get testimonials) it's definitely worthwhile.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Interesting.

I did the Jim Murcott school in Melbourne (Aust.), I did the basic and the performance course there.

The basic was okay, but considering I was 20 when I did you can imagine I was pretty bored, but the swerve and recover was a very handy skill that has since more than paid for the course.

The performance course the following week was fantastic though - they ran it at Sandown, and you learnt some good car control techniques, some basic racing techniques. If you can find somewhere that does a more 'performance' oriented course (get testimonials) it's definitely worthwhile.
yeah, i wouldn't mind doing something like you did but there sure wasn't basic racing techniques taught at Young Drivers of Canada ......if i want that, i would have to enroll in the BMW advanced training school ..... i had a laugh at my instructor though .......he must have thought i had no skill whatsoever ......i did the pilon test at a faster speed than him .....some people associate experience with skill .......this guy obviously had 20 years driving experience but i could have ripped him apart on a racetrack before i even got my license ....oh yeah, the States has a racing school called Skip Barber located in various areas ....i wouldn't mind trying this sometime .....i think they might even use formula 3 cars
 
Originally posted by Schumy
i took a driver training program (Young Drivers of Canada) before i got my lisence as it was supposed to lower insurance costs by giving me 3 years experience ........it didn't help me learn how to drive and i don't drive the way they taught me ......i'm far from a reckless driver who can't control their vehicle but i would still consider my driving pretty aggressive ......to me, there would be no point in driving if it resembled anything of their teachings (i can be more aggressive on my bike)....i would still recommend the training to people of less confidence and co-ordination for it does do a good job of teaching safe driving......i always wear my seatbelt though as i feel naked without it ...... when i was with my instructor i always wanted to give them a sample of real driving though ....i'm sure they would have been proud of me ;)

Oh I don't know, the training I took was VERY helpful, and I had already driven alot before I took it.

I am thinking of taking one of those track courses that you see where they make it wet ect, and then you preform skid recoveries and such...

Also, speaking of being thrown from a car...
I know a person whose father didn't want to wear a seatbelt in his convertable. He thought they killled people in accidents in open top vehicles. He was involved in a low speed car crash, and was thrown from the vehicle. Paramedics arrived, assesed his condition (which showed nothing more that a simple scrape) and released him. Unfortunately, he died 2 days later of internal bleeding....
 
Schumy - Thanks for posting, and no, I did not have snow tires.
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I will be equipping my car with snow tires first thing, though.

It snowed again today! The roads are very greasy right now. If I hadn't gotten into an accident Sunday, I almost certainly would have today. I was driving a rented Camry, and it's fairly tanklike in the snow. :thumbsup: Even so, I was going 30-35 MPH on the highway, and it was still scaring the s*** out of me. I think it would've even if I hadn't just been in an accident.

Vat_man - Nope, never had formal driver training of any kind. Unless you consider bombing around a snowy, empty parking lot formal training. :D Though I am now seriously considering making a trip over to New Hampshire and taking Team O'Neil's skid control course.
 
Skid control is important.

I've only ever driven in the snow once - it was pretty spooky. You'd turn the wheel and nothing would happen... for a while... and then suddenly you were sideways.
 
I had a couple of lurid spins in my late father's old Falcon (big RWD Aussie sedan) including one beauty down a narrow country road when I should have been killed, but never actually hit anything (other than a small wooden white roadside post).

I was pretty lucky.
 
Originally posted by risingson77
Schumy - Thanks for posting, and no, I did not have snow tires.
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I will be equipping my car with snow tires first thing, though.

It snowed again today! The roads are very greasy right now. If I hadn't gotten into an accident Sunday, I almost certainly would have today. I was driving a rented Camry, and it's fairly tanklike in the snow. :thumbsup: Even so, I was going 30-35 MPH on the highway, and it was still scaring the s*** out of me. I think it would've even if I hadn't just been in an accident.

Vat_man - Nope, never had formal driver training of any kind. Unless you consider bombing around a snowy, empty parking lot formal training. :D Though I am now seriously considering making a trip over to New Hampshire and taking Team O'Neil's skid control course.
i was just wondering b/c the same thing happened with my friend and his civic (without the T-bone part of course) ....he hadn't put snows on his car yet and his back end slide out and the car smoked the curb hard .....his damages were less major than yours but it still happens and he wasn't even driving fast ....i think snows are a really worthwile investment for people who live in areas with snow in the winter
 
Originally posted by Schumy
i was just wondering b/c the same thing happened with my friend and his civic (without the T-bone part of course) ....he hadn't put snows on his car yet and his back end slide out and the car smoked the curb hard .....his damages were less major than yours but it still happens and he wasn't even driving fast ....i think snows are a really worthwile investment for people who live in areas with snow in the winter

Yeah, I just learned that lesson the hard way. :( I basically decided to skip snows because I hadn't had trouble yet (d'oh). The Teggy will be getting snows ASAP now. :rolleyes: Little late, I know.
 
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