787B at Leguna Seca

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If this looks familiar to you, you're not imagining things. It's the Mazda 787B running at Leguna Seca. The crazy part is, the website claims this photo was taken August 19th, 2001, along with all these photos as well.

There isn't much info on the host website. Am I missinturperating something, or did the 787B actually run at Leguna Seca THIS YEAR? How come I can't find any other info about it? Lemans 1991 wasn't at Leguna Seca was it?

~LoudMusic
 
Am I missinturperating something, or did the 787B actually run at Leguna Seca THIS YEAR? How come I can't find any other info about it? Lemans 1991 wasn't at Leguna Seca was it?
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Apparently it did run this year, at the Monterey Historics at Laguna Seca (on August 19th)! I thought I had seen most of the event on Speedvision's show, but apparently the 787 didn't catch their camera's eye! :mad:

These are great pictures of a great car, thanks for posting them! I wonder who owns it? :eek:
 
From memory there are two 787Bs (I think the team ran two 787Bs and a 787 in '91 - the rotaries were banned for 92).

The cars were prepared by Oreca in Europe. I think Oreca have the car that finished 6th in '91 - it certainly is based in Europe.

Mazda have the Le Mans winner and that is the one that Mazda drag around the world to show off - I think it turns up fairly regularly at Goodwood and other historic meetings.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
From memory there are two 787Bs (I think the team ran two 787Bs and a 787 in '91 - the rotaries were banned for 92).

The cars were prepared by Oreca in Europe. I think Oreca have the car that finished 6th in '91 - it certainly is based in Europe.

Mazda have the Le Mans winner and that is the one that Mazda drag around the world to show off - I think it turns up fairly regularly at Goodwood and other historic meetings.
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That is an interesting piece of information. I thought there was only one. I need to look that up ...

1. Mazda 787B
2. Jaguar XJR12
3. Jaguar XJR12
4. Jaguar XJR12
5. Sauber Merc. C11
6. Mazda 787B
7. Porsche 962C
8. Mazda 787B
9. Porsche 962CK
10. Porsche 962C

... man I'm good (: Looks like Jaguar and Porsche were pretty strong that year too!
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It appears that you were mostly correct. There are actually THREE listed in this archive's .... archive. And this whole time I thought there was only one. Is there a street version of the 787 ?? That would be an interesting car to be zipping around the streets in.

~LoudMusic
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic


That is an interesting piece of information. I thought there was only one. I need to look that up ...

1. Mazda 787B
2. Jaguar XJR12
3. Jaguar XJR12
4. Jaguar XJR12
5. Sauber Merc. C11
6. Mazda 787B
7. Porsche 962C
8. Mazda 787B
9. Porsche 962CK
10. Porsche 962C

It appears that you were mostly correct. There are actually THREE listed in this archive's .... archive. And this whole time I thought there was only one. Is there a street version of the 787 ?? That would be an interesting car to be zipping around the streets in.

~LoudMusic
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Check this - there's video of them running the engine too - you might need tissues.

Re the other - nice try. The car that finished eighth was actually a 787, not a 787B - I'm not sure of the revisions. The French don't understand 'official'.

As always it's our detail obsessed model making friends - check out http://www.xs4all.nl/~erix7/rx7kits/787decl.html, but a Google search for '787 787b le mans' will give more detail.

This is the text from that link - the link also shows pictures
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Mazda 787 "Art Sports" Le Mans 1990 (ST27-DC209)
Set 209 covers 787 chassis nr.001 in its 1990 Le Mans 'Art Sports' livery. This car failed to finish the 1990 Le Mans race due to an oil leak.
In addition decals are provided for an unpainted test car as it was driven at the Fuji race track in preparation for Le Mans.
All decals are provided to do both versions (although you have to add about an acre of carbon fibre print for the test car, Scale Motorsport sheets 1024 and 1020 are perfect for this).



Mazda 787+787B "Mazda" Le Mans 1991 (ST27-DC210)
Set 210 covers the 'white' 787 and 787B that competed at Le Mans in 1991. Note that nr.18 is 787B chassis nr.001, whilst nr.56 is 787 chassis nr.002 fitted with 18in wheels. Nr.18 finished 6th and nr.56 finished 8th overall at the 1991 Le Mans race.
These decals can also be used for depicting the nr.18 car as it competed in most of the 1991 Group.C cat.2 World Sportscar Championship, do note however that this was 787 chassis nr.002, not 787B nr.001 !
The blue lines around the cabin are also provided as decals, the only decals missing are small 'T' symbols that would allow for making the spare car nr.18T (787 chassis nr.001) entered at the 1991 Le Mans race.
Decals are provided for one complete car.



Mazda 787B "Enfini" JSPC 1991 (ST27-DC216)
Set 216 covers 787B chassis nr.001 that competed in the 1991 season of the All-Japan Sports Prototype Championship (JSPC) after it ran the 1991 Le Mans race.
The green parts of the color scheme are all included on the decal sheet, apart from the rear wing, which has to be painted green.
Note the typo in Johnny Herberts name (J.HERBART), you have to replace this decal with the one from the Tamiya kit.
Decals are provided for one complete car, with a choice of racing numbers (18 or 201).



Mazda 787B "Renown" JSPC 1991 (ST27-DC228)
Set 228 covers 787 chassis nr.002 in its 1990 Le Mans 'Charge' livery and 787B chassis nr.002 in its 1991 JSPC 'Renown' livery. 787 nr.002 failed to finish the 1990 Le Mans race due to electrical problems.
Note the typo in Johnny Herberts name (J.HERBART), you have to replace this decal with the one from the Tamiya kit.
No color patches or white dashes are provided on this sheet. For the 'Charge' scheme the green patches can be taken from the Tamiya decal sheet, for either scheme the white dashes can also be taken from the Tamiya sheet.
Decals are provided for one complete car, although only a couple of items keep you from completing the scheme for the other car as well, borrowing those items from the Tamiya sheet allows you to do both schemes.
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See - you're not as far gone as you thought!
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Hang on - I had to go and order dinner - you're not building one are you?
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Well, I thought I'd start with a 1/24 scale model before I started on the real thing. Something wrong with that plan? Maybe you're right, wasting time and money on a model .... I should just start on the real thing right away.

I'd like a model to show off. I often get into discussions about cars with my guy friends (I think I'm the only car guy in my circle of friends), which of course leads to the rotary engine. Being able to point and say, "That bastard kicked the crap out of your silly piston engines at LeMans", would have much more impact (:

~LoudMusic
 
Wait wait! I pulled the file out of my Internet Cache Folder and opened it with Windows Media Player. It's a bit sketchy on the video quality, but it's still pretty cool (:

I'm going to head to bed and dream about taking it on a few laps (60? 70?) at Tokyo Route 246 (:

~LoudMusic
 
I'm surprised at all the American motor-heads not knowing about this! My father was in the US in Nov, and he always brings back a couple of car mags for us to read and compare. There was an article in one of them (C&D I think) on driving the 787B at Laguna.

I would have scanned it and posted it, but I would have thought you'd all have seen it! If nobody has it, I may still be able to get it off my Dad, but he tends to give his car magazines to the postman, so you've probably had it.
 
I did know about it, I even mentioned it somewhere, I think. It's part of an editorial. what do you think of US car mags?
 
I quite like them. They have a different focus than UK mags, which tend to expect cars to be impeccably built, and have to-die-for handling. The US mags seem to be a bit more balanced, and seem to have more of a clue of how to evaluate a car appropriate for its target market (like who cares about a Vitz's handling? And why worry about a Diablo's fuel consumption?)

Otherwise, they're cool, perhaps not as glossy and arty - in the UK there's a real emphasis on high-quality artistic photography. That's a comparison of Car and evo in the UK against Car & Driver and Road & Track in the US (in case I'm not comparing like with like! :D ).

Off-topic, IT magazines in the US are MUCH more detailed than in the UK. Here you get some basic reviews of the products on sale, plus some simple how-to articles, but I read a couple of magazines in the US, which were getting into full-on hardcore technical definitions. I was well impressed with those.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
Off-topic, IT magazines in the US are MUCH more detailed than in the UK. Here you get some basic reviews of the products on sale, plus some simple how-to articles, but I read a couple of magazines in the US, which were getting into full-on hardcore technical definitions. I was well impressed with those.
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Interesting comments - I used to buy Car and Driver when it was cheap here, that's a pretty solid mag, good technical stuff. I read Road & Track but never really rated it - too much US performance car focus (this was some years ago - haven't read it for a while)

I do love Car from the UK, but it's very dear here and I tend to only buy it when I fly - they do great investigative pieces (I recall a good one last year on Rover and BMW).

Local product here is good, if somewhat limited - Wheels is the main mag, which I think certainly stands up, if perhaps a touch lightweight, although there's one called Motor which is a bit more 'enthusiast' in its aim.
 
I prefer R/T to C/D since it are more detailed, but I am not a big fan of Motor Trend because of their not so mature style, like reading Game Pro, and I prefer more data. R/T has a Saloon car feature and they have had cars like the Statos featured before. The contributers are Paul Frere, Phil Hill, Sam Posey (Co-announcer for F1 on Speedvision) and famous photographer John Lamm. C/D features more cars though. Does IT mean Internet Technology?
 
I used to have a subscription to Road and Track. It is actually US muscle heavy. But more important, they only review cars sold in the US, and that means no RX-7. Forget that mess!

~LoudMusic
 
Watch the video---------> now look on the left, see the guy with his fingers up his ears?-----------> now get homocidal towards that guy! Damn...i would lovvve to witness a 787B doing some torque!!
 

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