**A Diesel Lotus??**

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**Diesel Performance**

  • Great idea, refined diesel engines are as Good as Petrol if not better, and more Economical too..

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • Economy really shouldn't matter when it comes to Performance, and a diesel is just 10x worse than a

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • I don't mind what it runs on as long as it Performs Well..

    Votes: 4 40.0%

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Ok so many companies have made what are said to be Performance diesels... The best I've probably seen being the :vw: Golf GT TDI 4 Motion (Did I get that right?)...:teleport:

But who'd have thought :lotus: would join the Club?

Well in a way they haven't yet, but there is a Concept with there ideas 💡

And what better name for an Economical Performance :tree2: Car name than the Eco? :smilewink

It's a tasty Performer too :burnout:

So What's everyone thoughts on Diesel Performance Cars :cool:? Is it the future of Sports Cars before we move too non-renewable fuels? :gcar:

And what about the Design? :D

Lotus Ecos

Diesel engined sports cars!? Whatever next!?

There've been turbulent times at Lotus currently. One week sees the announcement that the Elise will make it to the US, the next we're seeing lay offs in Norfolk as the economic downturn hits production. This week, they bring us news that they're planning a diesel sports car! Don't despair yet, if there's one company that can make diesels exciting, it's Lotus!

The Geneva motor show in a couple of weeks will see the launch of Lotus Engineering's latest project: 'ECO2s' (pronounced ECOS). The long term project will establish a number of new techniques to reduce emissions and body weight with the ultimate goal of an environmentally friendly sports car. The Elise has recently been highlighted as a top choice for company car drivers due to its light weight and low emissions - an issue of increasing importance to private motorists and fleets alike.

Using the latest technology in both the vehicle and powertrain engineering, Lotus Engineering are to demonstrate that an ultra-low CO2 level of 75g/km can be achieved without sacrificing performance. Projections show that 'ECO2s' may even exceed today's Elise in terms of vehicle performance, whilst delivering superior economy and reduced emissions.

The graph below shows vehicle performance against CO2 emissions. It demonstrates how performance usually comes at a price - the environment. (see next post)

To achieve its goal, Lotus will be utilising the following technologies:

-Light weight bonded and riveted aluminium vehicle structure
-First stage composite energy absorbing crush cells
-Recyclability promoted by using CF/TP Matrix
-Second stage metallic crush cell, giving linear energy absorption characteristics with low mass
-Dual Injection Thermoplastic Composite body panels with in mould colouring
-Chassis of lightweight construction, consisting of a mixture of forging and dual-plate steel components. Double wishbone front, multilink rear.
-Metal Matrix Composite brake discs (first seen on the Elise in 1996)
-42 volt electrical system
-1.2l turbo DI diesel engine!
-Close-coupled acoustic shields
-4-valve per cylinder camless valve operation
multishot, very high pressure common rail fuel injection
-Active DeNOx technology with particulate trap
-Low level series hybrid drive giving automatic stop/start and transient torque boost
-Two mode Continuously Variable Transmission
-Active Noise Control - to retain that 'Sports Car Noise'

Performance targets are 0-62mph in 6.2 seconds and a top speed of 200km/h (124mph).

The increasingly harsh environmental contraints and requirements for manufacturers to make their vehicles easier to recycle are imposing hefty burdens on manufacturers. Lotus engineering are on the case and taking a long term view in order to squeeze the best out of their cars by 2010 and to establish the best techniques for their consultancy work for other manufacturers.

Let's hope the additional constraints don't detract sports car makers from doing what they do best - producing exciting, good looking and desirable cars. Lotus must now give the diesel engine a sexy new image
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Originally posted by Angel O'Death
it looks like a lotus banged a exige doggy style and they had a nice lil baby. looks pretty kewl

I think it's more like the Ford GT90 raped a poor little Elise. But I certainly see the trend of diesel cars -- and sports cars -- coming. The across-the-board praise for BMW 330d and VW's GTI TDI (which has way too many TLA's BTW) says much about diesel's far reach in Europe (but thankfully not in the states).

I can connect with the joy of their in-gear slugs of torque, but...well, I guess I'd have to drive one. They say all the cold-engine chatter is gone, that the excess of low-end torque more than makes up for the lack of a reasonable redline, and that they're just so smooth. But what I don't hear is whether these cars are worth it on the track. Honestly, until that Lotus comes to be, I don't think a diesel will ever make it to the GT class at Le Mans.
 
Originally posted by Hooligan


I think it's more like the Ford GT90 raped a poor little Elise.

:lol: Man that's too good....

Originally posted by Duo17

The car looks nice, but its hard to find a lot of gas stations that still have diesel.

Really :confused:

In the :uk: we've got diesel at every Petrol/Gas Station? Europe is pretty much the same I think?

Wow I didn't know the :USA: wern't using diesel? Seems strange with all the SUV's too... :gcar:
 
The only cars that still really use diesel are the huge :chevy: pickups (mainly older ones) and a few :gmc: SUV's. There are of couse large tracktor trailors and 18 wheelers, but some of those are starting to use normal gas too. A couple of years ago every gas station had diesel pumps but they started to change them to "petrol".
 
Actually, quite a few people are running diesel golf's and such around here... I think it is the fact that you get a 120HP car that gets around 50MPG
 
I guess it depends on where you live in america...

Hey M5Power,
Do you live in a Rural, Suburban or Urban area? I've noticed that has something to do with it.
 
Originally posted by Deathhawk
umm... how the hell do you get a diesel engine out of that????!

i was referring to the styling, not the drivetrain itself
 
in the u.k a lot cars are runing on diesel bmw,mercedes,jag and
a lot more you don't know even the company.
but is the firts time i read about one of those kind. (luxury sport)
 
Originally posted by f50
in the u.k a lot cars are runing on diesel bmw,mercedes,jag and
a lot more you don't know even the company.
but is the firts time i read about one of those kind. (luxury sport)

Lotus isn't a "luxury" car manufacturer... With a 0-60 time of 6.2 I expect the general elise/340R trend of minimalistic to continue.
 
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