A.R.C#2 (Round 3 - Swiss Alps)

[Werner Winkels]

The Subaru is faster than my lovely Lancer
(I'm invested a lot of time in the Lancer )

I tried the Subaru too, but only 4-5 Laps .

Thanks Mr. P

 

[Mr P]

Originally posted by LDM
What a crap setup. You won't get any speed with this mess. muhwahahahahhaha.

I know .... truth be known this was from my mini set up

 

[NielsG]

Originally posted by phattboy
Premise of my response:

First of all, I'm assuming you are serious and the Trak Fodder Foundation leaves nobody on the wayside

Second, although I am not quite to the T-3 times of the Mr. Ps and GT3mich's in this race, I have found a path to T-2 that is as quick as what appears to be posted here. That being said, take what I am saying in the following narrative for what it is worth in the spirit it is offered.

Narrative to MY T-2:

Three things you have to bear in mind.

1) Brakes are a killer on this track.......

phattboy

Damn. Completely missed it. Used very long time to compose an essay of stating how serious I was in my help cry. Didn't refresh the thread, when I eventually returned and posted. If you had not PM'ed me phattboy. I properly never would have discovered it.

Again, thank you very much. There's a lot to work with. I'll start as soon as I've tucked up the kids.

BTW. I always driven auto, looks like now is the time to try the shift to manual.

 

[phattboy]

Originally posted by NielsG
Damn. Completely missed it. Used very long time to compose an essay of stating my serioucity on my help cry. Didn't refresh the thread, when I eventually returned and posted. If you had not PM'ed me phattboy. I proberly never would have discovered it.

Again, thank you very much. There's a lot to work with. I'll start as soon as I've tucked up the kids.

BTW. I always driven auto, looks like now is the time to try the shift to manual.

This is a bit of a conundrum (puzzle, problem to solve)...

At this track, as I said, I think manual is best. However, I would consider this track a hard track to learn manual transmission on. If you have trouble with manual transmission and need to stay with automatic transmission...

Don't forget there is the "hold gear" trick with R2 that you can use to prevent the car from shifting up/down when you don't want it to. With use of that "trick", you can simulate some of the shift points I described, however, you won't be able to "short-shift" or "shift-down". You are at the mercy of the game for that

Also, if you run automatic, I would do the gear setup a little higher than I would for manual transmission.

With an automatic transmission, I would run less rear Down Force than full (or maybe raise the rear springs higher than the front springs) to "loosen" up the rear to help in steering. Then, find ways to feather and/or "burp" the throttle to get through corners rather than hitting the brakes. With a "looser" rear, you can often coerce or coax the rear end to "swing or drift" to help steer through the corners better. It requires a bit of "touch" and "feel" to prevent over rotating. You may also consider playing with the VCD to help with this. Sometimes having more front wheel drive simulated helps to "pull" through corners faster. Sometimes having more rear wheel drive simulated helps me "drift" the rear better. Whatever works for you.

Remember, you can almost always actually go through a corner faster than you initially think you can. I always say to myself... "Self, you are already losing... what more have I got to lose?" Then having convinced myself... I go for it!!!

phattboy

 

[NielsG]

Tried the manual and there was some promising moments, but without exaggeration I can say there's still a lot of work to do. Well, I'll keep trying. Guess it's the way to go.

Originally posted by phattboy

Remember, you can almost always actually go through a corner faster than you initially think you can. I always say to myself... "Self, you are already losing... what more have I got to lose?" Then having convinced myself... I go for it!!!

phattboy [/B]

Also tried that. And a lot of the 2 dimensional spectators are now...... øhh, even more flat.

 

[phattboy]

Originally posted by NielsG
Tried the manual and there was some promising moments, but without exaggeration I can say there's still a lot of work to do. Well, I'll keep trying. Guess it's the way to go.



Also tried that. And a lot of the 2 dimensional spectators are now...... øhh, even more flat.

 

[Old Geezer]

Guess I oughta post some "T-Times"

Thanx first to Mr P for sharing his settings; Took almost 2 seconds off my Lap times!!! ( O' course I was still running the "Tarmac Settings" from DF II )

Thanx to GT3mich for reminding me to use MT w/my MOMO. 👍

And the biggest THANX to my Most Generous Partner phattboy for showing me the way around a track I "Thought" I knew!

T1.....21.442 * 16.270 * 16.182
T2.....39.144 * 33.673 * 33.848
T3.....57.929 * 52.145 * 52.366

Not enough to "Scare" the "Fast Guys (& Gal)" but much quicker than I thought I'd be goin'!!! Thanx Again...UB57

 

[phattboy]

AWESOME T-TIMES UB!!! 👍

I'm just glad you're on MY team! Wouldn't want to have to try to compete with those

Thanks for the Kudos too!!! After a day like I had today, that makes me feel good!👍

 

[LDM]

I hope my humor was not too tongue in cheek. Mr P could drive a brick with no setup to fast times.

Kudos to Mr P, but I think mich is banging on your door, I just hope I can keep up.

Good Luck to everyone.

 

[Venom77]

I'd like to thank mr p for that god send of a setup cheers ron(y)




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[Kelly]

Originally posted by phattboy
Did everyone notice this helpful hint? NEVER NOTICE T-2!

When I first saw this, I thought "Doh!" That is why I keep blowing the "Corkscrew"... (Read that: Concentration loss)

Followed her advice/lead and "POOF" nearly a second off my lap and a whole bunch of consistency added.

phattboy

For once I am helpful to someone

Not been back on it yet myself, will get round to some killer laps at the weekend

 

[Kelly]

Originally posted by Venom77
I'd like to thank mr p for that god send of a setup cheers ron(y)




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Big improvement then?

 

[Venom77]

Not yet but i think there will be



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[Kelly]

Oooh scary

 

[Max E.]

looks like my teammate is helping everybody in this joint except me

P.S. Still laying 5 second frenchers on the moose kak here.

 

[Venom77]

Originally posted by Mr P
for the record I've been running the Subaru Prototype here's my set up for whoever can make use of it:tup:

5.5/7.5
90/90
9/10
9/10
0/0
0/0
2/3
24/20
lsd's
10/10
20/40
10/20
gears
2.853
1.981
1.473
1.147
0.934
0.796
final 4.444
auto 26
max df
asm0
tcs0
vcd 10%

Good Luck

Come on max surely this is enough

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[Max E.]

nah. does'nt work for me. i'm beyond help

 

[Venom77]

Come on max i have faith in you


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[NielsG]

At last some progress.

Best clean:
58.3
53.2
53.5

I owe your a beer phattboy. 3x:tup:

 

[phattboy]

Originally posted by NielsG
I owe your a beer phattboy. 3x:tup:

I'll hold you to that buddy 👍

phattboy

 

[hucker696]

I started running ths earlier in the week today I'm taking the kids mountain biking so tomorrow I'll hit it hard and heavy.

 

[Gt3Emperor]

Gt3Emperor's S.O.D. Killa Rally Team

People gawk and stare as our team trailer finally arrives at Swiss Alps. It's been a tiring week at Apricot Hill II.

"There wasn't much 'Sod' to kill there, but here there's quite a bit.....and we've got the perfect tool to do it. Nothing like a Rally car for killing lots of unsightly 'Sod'."

"What the heck are you talking about, you idiot"? "S.O.D. is an 'acronym'....it stands for, 'Speed on Demand'!" "Man, are all mechanics illiterate...or just those on my team?"

"??...acri-acr-on-.....il...ill-li..ah..??"

"Just unload the trailer so we can get our 'butt whuppin' and get the heck out of here!"

 

[phattboy]

Yours should be a short one... Some of us been gettin' whupped up on all dang week!

I might try your strategy next week...

phattboy

 

[hucker696]

I ran a little tonight after my bike trip with the kids heres some t2s for the guys in the back of the pack.
40.253
34.742
35.400

 

[Gt3Emperor]

.....Back of the pack?.....Yeah, that's me!

We've unloaded one car to test....I don't think it's the car for the track, but it's all I've got in my garage.

T1=16.871
T2=35.541
T3=54.538

Wow...we're only 3 seconds off pace after about 10 minutes of running.

"Man, there's a lot of grass that needs cutting here."

I'll have to scan my garage for junk and sell it off...

 

[Gt3Emperor]

.....backed our second car off the trailer, buzzed around here for about 10 minutes.....our ineptitude netted us:

T1 = 16.853, 16.675
T2 = 35.096, 34.735
T3 = 54.109, 53.937

So, we're 2 seconds of the leaders at T3.....

I need to check something out in the tire department....I'll talk to my mechanics...."I'll be back"

 

[hucker696]

thats what I ran last race 2 secs behind each lap 4 secs behind P for the race.Now all I have to do is close the gap.

 

[Venom77]

Just posting my lap2 and 3 sectors if any use for anyone

T1/ 16.241// 16.202
T2/ 33.761// 33.780
T3/52.399// 52.238

I will be giving this another go in the morning after work


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[Mr P]

Just as a reminder


This is a 3 lap race 👍

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[Venom77]

Weeeep