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I don't think so. I think there is a limitation on shifting speed built into each car. It feels like I can manualy shift faster in some cars vs. how fast it actually shifts in the game. I think using the paddles offer an advantage in consistency and in being more flexible with gearing and the timing of downshifts and upshifts. When you heel and toe and shift manually you have to always be conscious of where and when you shift and and your options are usually more limited for practical reasons. I noticed in your video for example that in a couple of places you had a short upshift entering a corner and then a quick downshift, between corner 3 and 4 for example. When you manually shift you most likely wouldn't do that because the quick upshift and then downshift is very tricky at corner entry so you'd set up your transmission to avoid that small upshift, or at least I do. When using the paddles you can also downshift quite easily whenever you want to, something that's not so easy when you heel and toe. A mid-corner downshift to help the car rotate a little quicker is not such an easy thing when you don't use the paddles. It can be done of course, but you have more errors and less accuracy vs. using the paddles. I think very hard braking is also easier with the paddles, simply because your foot is focused on only one action, braking, vs. braking and blipping the throttle.I wonder if it is possible to get faster gear shifts using H-Shifter and clutch. Has anyone done a back to back?
Just really confused as the last two events I did seem a lot more off the pace compared to first event I did which was with a semi-automatic car. See also @gm matthew and you also seem quite quick in the last sector relative to rest of lap.I don't think so. I think there is a limitation on shifting speed built into each car. It feels like I can manualy shift faster in some cars vs. how fast it actually shifts in the game. I think using the paddles offer an advantage in consistency and in being more flexible with gearing and the timing of downshifts and upshifts. When you heel and toe and shift manually you have to always be conscious of where and when you shift and and your options are usually more limited for practical reasons. I noticed in your video for example that in a couple of places you had a short upshift entering a corner and then a quick downshift, between corner 3 and 4 for example. When you manually shift you most likely wouldn't do that because the quick upshift and then downshift is very tricky at corner entry so you'd set up your transmission to avoid that small upshift, or at least I do. When using the paddles you can also downshift quite easily whenever you want to, something that's not so easy when you heel and toe. A mid-corner downshift to help the car rotate a little quicker is not such an easy thing when you don't use the paddles. It can be done of course, but you have more errors and less accuracy vs. using the paddles. I think very hard braking is also easier with the paddles, simply because your foot is focused on only one action, braking, vs. braking and blipping the throttle.
Others may be more skilled than me and it may be just as easy for them when manually shifting but for me, I'm always a little faster and more consistent (ie. less frustrating and more mistake free laps) with the paddles vs. heel and toe. I choose heel and toe because that's how I want to race though.
Your left front seem to be quite hot in the last few corners. It's at 120-130C in the corner 10 and 12 for example and although it's on the inside, it's over 120C in the final corner. These tires lose a lot of grip once you get over 110-120C or at least that's how it feels to me. I struggled to get below my original time of 1:52.7 and only did so by focusing on being super smooth, which kept the temps a little more ideal and increased my corner exit speeds. I'm still not as fast as the aliens but I suspect that is the key is lowering the tire slip and keeping the temps down.Just really confused as the last two events I did seem a lot more off the pace compared to first event I did which was with a semi-automatic car. See also @gm matthew and you also seem quite quick in the last sector relative to rest of lap.
It was to get car rotated a bit more to keep more to right and also allowed to get more on the power without heating up the rear tyres as much, tried every way possible but always was slow so hard to understand why really. Will be interesting to see your approach to it. I do think last two events I had probably a better setup too potentially so you might go even faster if you tried again.I use my shifter when I can because I enjoy it more but over a lap I'm definitely slower using it than using paddles. Like Johnny said it's a bit more inconsistent, particularly on down changes for me because sometimes I will shift down too aggressively and the rear will step out. If I was using the paddles I've got 2 hands on the wheel and a bit more control.
Saidur I don't think your short shift to 4th out of the long right did you any favours. My lap's currently uploading so it should be up shortly.
I did everything in setup to try and get it low for that last sector and on that lap I think it was actually quite low compared to usual due to a really flowing middle sector which helped me to get my best last sector.Your left front seem to be quite hot in the last few corners. It's at 120-130C in the corner 10 and 12 for example and although it's on the inside, it's over 120C in the final corner. These tires lose a lot of grip once you get over 110-120C or at least that's how it feels to me. I struggled to get below my original time of 1:52.7 and only did so by focusing on being super smooth, which kept the temps a little more ideal and increased my corner exit speeds. I'm still not as fast as the aliens but I suspect that is the key is lowering the tire slip and keeping the temps down.
I don't think it's the setup I think it's the new tire model and this car. Even tiny errors that in other cars didn't affect heat much, in this car with this tire model the tires heat up very quickly and grip drops off just as quickly, so the only solution is to be absolutely perfectly smooth and keep temps down. I just watched Aderrrm's video and it seems to support that conclusion as he's super smooth throughout it seems, with very little tire noise or slideways action. I found that even one small mistake on entry and a loss of traction in one corner, was often enough to ruin the rest of the lap.I did everything in setup to try and get it low for that last sector and on that lap I think it was actually quite low compared to usual due to a really flowing middle sector which helped me to get my best last sector.
Seemed really similar to me regarding lines (My sound levels is stock settings), I think I did a reasonable job in middle sector to get decent speed in that sector and be on the right parts of the track to put as least load on the front tyres.I don't think it's the setup I think it's the new tire model and this car. Even tiny errors that in other cars didn't affect heat much, in this car with this tire model the tires heat up very quickly and grip drops off just as quickly, so the only solution is to be absolutely perfectly smooth and keep temps down. I just watched Aderrrm's video and it seems to support that conclusion as he's super smooth throughout it seems, with very little tire noise or slideways action. I found that even one small mistake on entry and a loss of traction in one corner, was often enough to ruin the rest of the lap.
As an aside, I'm hoping this is the direction they go with the tire model even though it moves the game more away from the casual users in full sim mode, but I suppose that's what turning tire heat off is for:idea: When I got into pc sim racing I was really looking forward to having the added level of complexity of having to manage tire temps and tire wear and so far this hasn't been the case, at least not consistently. PCars is struggling with the whole tire heating issue at the moment, having swung in one direction and then the other in their last couple of patches and it makes the game quite undesirable for me. I really hope Kunos gets this sorted for all cars and working well before the full game is released. I don't think the console sim market is ready for another sim with these kinds of issues.
What's your Steam username Johnny?
What's your Steam username Johnny?
Guess I should have posted that eh?
I forgot about my own rules. No matter, send me the Steam FR anyway, organizer's discretion and all of that. Nice spot on the mistaken time, I reworked the numbers and @Gravitron is now the final qualifier.I don't qualify as only did three of the eight challenges. @Gravitron might be next in line as for week 3 there is a typo on his time, should be one second quicker.