Air Asia Flight Lost Over Indonesia

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Jakarta ATC lost contact with an Air Asia flight outbound from Surabaya to Singapore at 07:24 local time. (00:24 GMT)

Transport Official
...the plane had asked for an unusual route before losing contact.

Up to 162 people on board. No reports as to weather conditions or distressed cockpit reports yet.
 
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This is only the 2nd one in the past 10 months. (Excluding the one that was shot down).

I'm hoping that number stays the same. It is very scary when a large group of people disappear all at once. No matter how long they remain missing.
 
With most plane crashes there is a period of it being 'missing' or disappearing from radar. It's a case of how soon it can be found; MH370 was an exceptional case of an aeroplane not being found. Thanks to modern technology this is now a much, much rarer event.

Cynically, one hopes that this one can be at least found and investigated. It has already been four hours since last contact was made and early reports crossing with one another makes it difficult to know what to think right now.
 
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I believe that this is only the 6th recorded missing aircraft in the past 25 years. Still way too many but only the 3rd one since 2004.
 
So is this becoming a thing now?

Seems the last one that went down was also from a Malaysia based company...

EDIT: I'm not one to jump the gun, but if a passenger plane has been missing for 5 hours with no update on its whereabouts I think its pretty safe to assume by now that its been crashed.
 
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That's like a billion percent more than before 10 months ago.

This is crazy. Does the Indian Ocean have a bermuda triangle now? The Bermu-lah Triangle?
From which time period are you measuring though. There was one in 2008 as well. They are becoming less and less frequent but one has to wonder if Indonesia has issues with their ATC.
 
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From which time period are you measuring though. There was one in 2008 as well. They are becoming less and less frequent but one has to wonder if Indonesia has issues with their ATC.
Indonesia has problems with Aliens.

Stupid joke aside I can't honestly imagine what it must be like for the families. To come back from dinner or a movie or something and read an alert on their phones that their loved ones may have been lost over sea? I hope that I, or anyone here, never has that experience.
 
I find it odd that we can fly planes across the Atlantic and Pacific oceans without issue, yet lately planes from that area are having trouble crossing small strips of water between large islands.
 
Was flight 370 in this same area?

Flight QZ8501 lost contact between the Kalamantan region and the Java island

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Flight 370 lost contact between Vietnam and Malaysia

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AirAsia has removed all traces of Christmas spirit from its Facebook page upon hearing of the incident.

"For a seamless flying experience!" ...Yeah

I'd do the exact same thing if I was in charge of the company's PR
 
Experts are saying that the plane would have ran out of fuel by now should it still be in the air.

With no confirmed ground presence I think its time we can assume by now all on board are dead.

The cause of accident is still unknown. Thought to be harsh weather.

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10.43am - Local Indonesian media sources are reporting that the remains of a crashed aircraft has been found off of the Belitung Islands. It coincides with the path of the flight, and is near where the ADS-B signal dropped.
 
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10.43am - Local Indonesian media sources are reporting that the remains of a crashed aircraft has been found off of the Belitung Islands. It coincides with the path of the flight, and is near where the ADS-B signal dropped.
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That's at the left part of the circle I drawn :indiff:

Poor people :(
 
  • AirAsia flight QZ8501 from Surabaya to Singapore is believed to have crashed at the location 03.22.46 South and 108.50.07 East, in waters around 145 kilometers from Belitung, a National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) official has said.
  • It is believed that the Airbus A320 had circled over the sea near Belitung to avoid a storm before it experienced severe turbulence and crashed into the ocean.
 
  • AirAsia flight QZ8501 from Surabaya to Singapore is believed to have crashed at the location 03.22.46 South and 108.50.07 East, in waters around 145 kilometers from Belitung, a National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) official has said.
  • It is believed that the Airbus A320 had circled over the sea near Belitung to avoid a storm before it experienced severe turbulence and crashed into the ocean.
Source?

Can't really post this without a source so I have located what the previous post mentioned:

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/12/28/airasia-plane-downed-belitung-waters-reports.html
 
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The pilot chose to climb to 38,000 feet, only 1,000 feet shy of the A320-200's service ceiling, in a plane basically fully loaded. That means the ceiling is actually lower and this would be illustrated on charts the pilot has in the cockpit which he is trained to refer to. The flight envelope 1,000 feet below the plane's ceiling will be very thin, even thinner when loaded - assuming it can even reach that altitude with that load - and to top it off he's headed toward a thunderhead which is illustrated by the lightning map which has come out since the crash. The plane probably failed to get above the rapidly rising thunderhead. It flew through it, the updraft pushing the plane above its service ceiling, the autopilot failing to maintain control and disengaging, the pilots unable to maintain control because the plane can't maintain flight at that altitude, the plane stalling, the pilots failing to recover from the stall because of faulty instrumentation due to icing encountered in the thunderhead, the engines flaming out, basically everything going wrong, and the airline eventually being driven into the ground by pilots who failed to get the engines restarted or recover from the stall properly.

I think my theory is pretty realistic. All of the things I mentioned have happened before and there's no reason to believe they can't happen again.

10.43am - Local Indonesian media sources are reporting that the remains of a crashed aircraft has been found off of the Belitung Islands. It coincides with the path of the flight, and is near where the ADS-B signal dropped.
You need to start putting sources in your posts. I'm browsing the Reddit live thread and nothing of the sort has been said. Apparently you're the only person on the internet with this information.
 
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The pilot chose to climb to 38,000 feet, only 1,000 feet shy of the A320-200's service ceiling, in a plane basically fully loaded. That means the ceiling is actually lower and this would be illustrated on charts the pilot has in the cockpit which he is trained to refer to. The flight envelope 1,000 feet below the plane's ceiling will be very thin, even thinner when loaded - assuming it can even reach that altitude with that load - and to top it off he's headed toward a thunderhead which is illustrated by the lightning map which has come out since the crash. The plane probably failed to get above the rapidly rising thunderhead. It flew through it, the updraft pushing the plane above its service ceiling, the autopilot failing to maintain control and disengaging, the pilots unable to maintain control because the plane can't maintain flight at that altitude, the plane stalling, the pilots failing to recover from the stall because of faulty instrumentation due to icing encountered in the thunderhead, the engines flaming out, basically everything going wrong, and the airline eventually being driven into the ground by pilots who failed to get the engines restarted or recover from the stall properly.

I think my theory is pretty realistic. All of the things I mentioned have happened before and there's no reason to believe they can't happen again.
To just quickly summarize your post, 8501 tried to fly over the storm, failed and lost engine power as a result of the poorly executed maneuver?
 
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