America - The Official Thread

[Scaff]

It's a pretty biased source. All I remember about him is he led the awful TWA 800 investigation which would later become a benchmark for How Not To Investigate Things. He effectively wrote a conclusion and made sure all the facts fitted.

In this case there might be some truth in what he says (and we really don't know) but it'd be preferable to see those facts from a proper investigation.

The man's who's Chairman of a foundation that has received over a million dollars in donations from Trump is a supporter of Trump?

Say its not so.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/meet-donald-trumps-top-fbi-fanboy

 

[Liquid]

TWA 800

Still one of the most interesting and curious incidents out there.

 

[DK]

This didn't age well.

 

[TexRex]

didn't age well.

Broken.

 

[Imari]

This didn't age well.

It certainly didn't. I didn't know that links could die of old age.

 

[Rage Racer]

 

[Joey D]

Joe Biden seems like the kind of guy that would have impressive old man strength.

 

[TexRex]

*cough*

Commas save lives.

 

[Johnnypenso]

It's fascinating to see the double standards from the left wing media when it comes to threats of physical violence against someone they don't like.

 

[DK]

Broken.

It certainly didn't. I didn't know that links could die of old age.

Here you go.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

It's fascinating to see the double standards from the left wing media when it comes to threats of physical violence against someone they don't like.

I'd say it's embarrassing for all sides, but I can understand how it's so much easier to focus on just one.

 

[TheCracker]

It's fascinating to see the double standards from the left wing media when it comes to threats of physical violence against someone they don't like.

It was certainly wrong of Biden to threaten some physically debilitated by heel-bone spurs. He should know better 👍

 

[Biggles]

Great. John Bolton as the new national security advisor to Trump. What's next - Ted Nugent heading up the DOD?

 

[TexRex]

It's fascinating to see the double standards from the left wing media

*clears throat*

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Due process.

 

[Joey D]

What's next - Ted Nugent heading up the DOD?

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[TexRex]

Or...you know...

And when he gets 🤬-canned by Trump, he can belt out "How am I supposed to live without you?"

 

[gnomefromnome]

 

[TenEightyOne]

Surely it was the case that the previous administration couldn't find a legal basis to stop their sale rather than create the legal basis for their sale?

 

[ExigeEvan]

Question for American friends that comes fro discussion in the British Thread.

Could you walk down a street in America saying ''Gas the Jews" and escape all punishment under freedom of speech laws?

Context. Scottish man posts video of Pug doing Nazi salute and is trained to do so in response to the command 'gas the jews'. Many American commentators have jumped on the guilty verdict as an affront to free speech.

 

[ryzno]

Question for American friends that comes fro discussion in the British Thread.

Could you walk down a street in America saying ''Gas the Jews" and escape all punishment under freedom of speech laws?

Context. Scottish man posts video of Pug doing Nazi salute and is trained to do so in response to the command 'gas the jews'. Many American commentators have jumped on the guilty verdict as an affront to free speech.

Legally yeah, unless they can find a way to twist it into hate speech. I can't tell you what the people would do though...
I heard about that today, utterly ridiculous.

 

[Northstar]

Question for American friends that comes fro discussion in the British Thread.

Could you walk down a street in America saying ''Gas the Jews" and escape all punishment under freedom of speech laws?

Context. Scottish man posts video of Pug doing Nazi salute and is trained to do so in response to the command 'gas the jews'. Many American commentators have jumped on the guilty verdict as an affront to free speech.

You would likely face charges here as well if done on public property. It actually doesn't sound all that different than this case.

However if you were doing it on private property it would certainly be up for debate.

 

[TexRex]

twist it into hate speech

Are you implying it's not already such?

 

[Scaff]

Now aside from the inaccuracies of the first sentence, I awaiting the influx of posts saying that this is unconstitutional, that full autos are not really illegal and this doesn't actually turn semi into fully auto and that actually 'good guys with guns' are the real answer.

Not that it will pass anyway.

 

[ExigeEvan]

Legally yeah, unless they can find a way to twist it into hate speech. I can't tell you what the people would do though...
I heard about that today, utterly ridiculous.

How is it not hate speech?

You would likely face charges here as well if done on public property. It actually doesn't sound all that different than this case.

However if you were doing it on private property it would certainly be up for debate.

Agreed that on private property but placing such a video on a public, and somewhat well followed) YouTube channel puts it in the public domain, no?

 

[TexRex]

Now aside from the inaccuracies of the first sentence, I awaiting the influx of posts saying that this is unconstitutional, that full autos are not really illegal and this doesn't actually turn semi into fully auto and that actually 'good guys with guns' are the real answer.

Not that it will pass anyway.

I feel like this is why it was screenshotted; it's gonna be taken down...

 

[Northstar]

Agreed that on private property but placing such a video on a public, and somewhat well followed) YouTube channel puts it in the public domain, no?

Like I said, it would be up for debate and would likely come down to the judge-prosecutor combo.

 

[UKMikey]

You would likely face charges here as well if done on public property. It actually doesn't sound all that different than this case.

However if you were doing it on private property it would certainly be up for debate.

I don't quite understand what happened with this case. Was the whole thing thrown out becuase the statute was deemed unconstitutional or was Black acquitted and the two guys who tried to burn a cross on their black neighbour's property found guilty of intimidation?

 

[ryzno]

How is it not hate speech?

Depends on the context. I'm pretty sure he taught his dog to do that for laughs.

 

[TexRex]

Depends on the context. I'm pretty sure he taught his dog to do that for laughs.

I'd argue that hate speech is hate speech regardless of the motivation behind it and/or target audience.

 

[ryzno]

I'd argue that hate speech is hate speech regardless of the motivation behind it and/or target audience.

It's a dog...