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Makes me wonder what his opinion would be if a woman is pregnant as a result of rape? “Tough luck it is your fault you got raped....oh wait”
That is often countered by that she shouldn’t have had sex on the first place. Especially religious nuts. Or that she knew the risks, because birth control isn’t 100%.
I have had an personal experience concerning this topic about 15 years ago. And looking back we are both married to other people now and both happily married with a son and daughter. For us it was the right choice in hindsight. I don’t understand pro life people’s reasoning. More likely then not if the people aren’t ready or don’t want the child they end up ruining both their life and the child’s.
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...and that risk is an abortion.
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No I know that you're pro-choice. I was saying that it's circular reasoning to say that the risk is to become a parent and then point to that as a reason why abortions shouldn't be allowed. The risk could be an abortion. Assuming that the risk is to become a parent is a "begging the question" fallacy.
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To say that you knew the risk of having sex was having a child (and not an abortion), and therefore you should have to have the child (and not an abortion), is circular.
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I don't know what proportion of abortions were caused by couples deliberately choosing not to use contraception so they could abort the pregnancy afterwards but I'm guessing it's not a high one.
I'm not sure overturning Roe v. Wade would have much of an effect on the number of parents wanting abortions anyway. Prior to that legal decision there were states which allowed abortion so I think it would lead to a Republic of Ireland-style situation with folks travelling to states in which it wasn't outlawed to terminate their pregnancies.
I'm not sure overturning Roe v. Wade would have much of an effect on the number of parents wanting abortions anyway. Prior to that legal decision there were states which allowed abortion so I think it would lead to a Republic of Ireland-style situation with folks travelling to states in which it wasn't outlawed to terminate their pregnancies.
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According to this article federal appeals courts are already in the process of increasing restrictions on abortions regardless of the status of RvW.
https://newrepublic.com/article/151656/abortion-case-likely-headed-supreme-court
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Not that put much too weight into approval ratings, but Trump's 50 percent approval rating (as of yesterday) compared to Macron's new low of 27 percent is particularly noteworthy, as are the Yellow Vests protests. Macron may finish his term with the lowest approval ratings of any French PM in history, stop and think about that, it's actually kind of amazing really, the power of the people's voice, the right to protest, the right free speech and expression and all of that. It's all on display in the streets of Paris right now. Where Trump will finish remains to be seen, but in the near term, if we enter a recession in the next year, it almost certainly will certainly have a negative impact on his ratings.
Edit- had to fact check myself, Macron would still have ways to go, Hollande had a 12% approval rating in 2014, which I did not realize his rating ever dipped that low.
Edit- had to fact check myself, Macron would still have ways to go, Hollande had a 12% approval rating in 2014, which I did not realize his rating ever dipped that low.
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I still cant fathom how Trump polls that high.
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It's amazing that as controversial and unpresidential as Trump admittedly is, he seems to routinely gather about 50% approval. If he can stay out of jail and avoid impeachment+conviction, then the scattered nature of his opposition might see him through to a second term. Although, given his age, weight and diet, it wouldn't surprise me if medical issues arise.
According to a very recent Gallup poll:
Republicans...... 28%
Independents....39%
Democrats.........31%
According to a very recent Gallup poll:
Republicans...... 28%
Independents....39%
Democrats.........31%
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Rasmussen.
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The message sent by the French people is abundantly clear, and that is don't mess with people's pocketbooks. I can't imagine it's really any different with American sentiment. I think with Trump, he is deeply flawed, has an obnoxious personality, he isn't endearing (like George HW Bush was), but as long as he keep's people's wallets happy, they have shown they will tolerate him (for now).
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The french always complain about everything. The recent protests dont really shock me that much. The French have protested a lot in the past few decades. And often coupled with violence.
- 2005 – 2005 French riots, a series of riots that occurred in the suburbs of Paris and other French cities involving the burning of cars and public buildings at night.
- 2006 – 2006 youth protests in France, riots resulting from opposition to a measure set to deregulate labour in France.
- 2007 – 2007 Villiers-le-Bel riots, riots in the Val-d'Oise department that began following the deaths of two teenagers whose motorcycle collided with a police vehicle.
- 2007–09 – 2007–09 university protests in France, protest movements resulting from several reform projects under Minister for Higher Education and Research Valérie Pécresse.
- 2009 – 2009 French riots, a series of riots that occurred on Bastille Day (14 July) in the commune of Montreuil, an eastern suburb area of Paris.
- 2013 – 2013 Trappes riots, riots that broke out after police arrested a man who assaulted a police officer who tried to check the identity of his wife wearing a Muslim veil
- 2014 – 2014 Sarcelles riots, a pro-Palestinian protest against the Israeli ground invasion of Gaza degenerated into an antisemitic riot in Sarcelles, France.
- 2016 - 2016 French taxi driver strike, a strike by taxi drivers in several major cities against Uber, a transportation network company, included many road blockades, fires, overturned vehicles, and the blockade of roads leading to the two major airports in Paris.[5]
- 2016 - Nuit debout, protests that grew out of opposition to proposed labor reforms.
- 2017 - Protests started following accusations a police officer anally raped a young black man with a baton.[6] Anti-police protests continued well into March 2017 when migrants were met with resistance from Paris residents.
- 2017 - During May Day protests in Paris, a group of about 150[7] hooded demonstrators disrupted the march, throwing "Molotov cocktails, firebombs and other objects at the police near Place de la Bastille."[8] These "violent protesters, who did not carry any union or election paraphernalia, appeared to be from the same fringe groups that have targeted anti-government protests in the past."[8] Riot police responded with batons and tear gas.[8] Six police officers were injured, two of them seriously, by petrol bombs.[9]
- 2018 - Gilets jaunes protests over ongoing increases to fuel taxes.
edit: I realise this is the America thread. I will repost data in europe thread, but i posted this hear to put the recent protests in somehwat perspective.
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Rasmussen is certainly not the best, but they aren't the worst either. Their accuracy seems to vary each year but they generally had 2016 right when just about everyone else didn't. They even had Hillary winning the popular vote by 2% which wasn't that far off. In reality if you subtract the margin of error from the Rasmussen poll, that would still put Trump at 47%. I would trust that figure more than what fivethirtyeight said.
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I Would say Trumps Approval rating is in the high 40% range, the bigger sample sized Polls all have him closer to 50%, where as the smaller sample sized polls have him closer to 40%, Disapprovals are still higher though.
Macron on the other hand has to be a record low approval in France for a leader this new, even considering how protest happy the country is, Given how the collapse of the establishment parties happened in the last election though, the next election could bring a random result, I can't see macron recovering from this.
Macron on the other hand has to be a record low approval in France for a leader this new, even considering how protest happy the country is, Given how the collapse of the establishment parties happened in the last election though, the next election could bring a random result, I can't see macron recovering from this.
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A Mueller memo on the Paul Manafort investigation comes out tomorrow. Mueller out here wranglin hogs. Everybody pray for America's intelligence agencies and the entire Department of Justice. God damn we need these people to follow their rules.
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Why?
I don't understand what makes one outlying poster more accurate than an average of polls.
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