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the yearly weigh-in has him at 243 lbs.

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That's my President!
I wonder if he played as much golf before becoming president
 
I hate New York City billionaires. All of them. Including Trump. But if the President delivers peace and prosperity, nothing else matters; he gets a passing grade. He/she/it could weigh 4 ounces or 400 lbs, no matter. Right now we are by far and away the most successful major economy on Earth, and the most dangerous enemy we are currently fighting is no more dangerous than a bagful of diseased fleas. Cross fingers for luck.
 
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I hate New York City billionaires. All of them. Including Trump. But if the President delivers peace and prosperity, nothing else matters; he gets a passing grade. He/she/it could weigh 4 ounces or 400 lbs, no matter. Right now we are by far and away the most successful major economy on Earth, and the most dangerous enemy we are currently fighting is no more dangerous than a bagful of diseased fleas. Cross fingers for luck.

Peace and Prosperity for who?
 
This can not be good news for big Rog



Special counsel Robert Mueller has communications between longtime Trump associate Roger Stone and WikiLeaks, according to a new court filing from prosecutors.


In the course of investigating the Russian hack of Democratic Party emails, "the government obtained and executed dozens of search warrants on various accounts used to facilitate the transfer of stolen documents for release, as well as to discuss the timing and promotion of their release," prosecutors wrote Friday to a federal judge.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...n-roger-stone-and-wikileaks-court-filing-says


In a update we now have mr stone doing this

Roger Stone Attacks Judge Presiding Over His Case In Bizarre Instagram Post
The Trump associate posted a picture of federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson next to what looked like an image of crosshairs.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/roger-stone-judge-instagram_n_5c6b1233e4b0b9cc78ff507e

In a message that was posted, lambasted, deleted, edited, reposted and re-deleted over the course of a few hours on Monday, Stone claimed that “Deep State hitman Robert Mueller” assigned him Judge Amy Berman Jackson “through legal trickery.”


 
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That Article was completely Dubunked by jimmy Dore who showed that the Soo called experts was a company that got banned from Twitter for Russia Smearing accounts:

MSM in America is complete trash when it comes to political matters they have lost nearly all credibility.

Joe Rogan apparently had a NY Times journalist on that tried to smear Gabbard, but could not remember 1 solid evidence for why Gabbard was bad. She was only kind of, sort of, almost positive she had her facts right.

Jimmy Dore I believe, just blasted her in front of an audience for her attitude towards Gabbard and how Rogan and his assistant had to research her claims for her. I think all she got out of her claim that Gabbard was a “boatload of bad ideas” was that she went to see Assad and her conversion therapy view she had when she was a teenager and apologized numerous times for since.
He owns 17.
That’s his score after 18 holes, he’s that good.
 
Joe Rogan apparently had a NY Times journalist on that tried to smear Gabbard, but could not remember 1 solid evidence for why Gabbard was bad. She was only kind of, sort of, almost positive she had her facts right.

Jimmy Dore I believe, just blasted her in front of an audience for her attitude towards Gabbard and how Rogan and his assistant had to research her claims for her. I think all she got out of her claim that Gabbard was a “boatload of bad ideas” was that she went to see Assad and her conversion therapy view she had when she was a teenager and apologized numerous times for since.

That’s his score after 18 holes, he’s that good.
Seeing that interview just blows my mind that these people are journalists, they have zero idea what they are doing if they don't even do basic research on the people they write about.

All her knowledge about Gabbard was basically other people's opinions she had zero idea about what she was even about.
 
We could have had Hilary Clinton - the Angela Merkel of American politics - competent, middle-of-the-road, bureaucratic, predictable, boring.

Comparing Hillary to Merkel seems rough. Merkel may appear boring, but she's been one of the most powerful leaders in the entire world for at least the last decade. Just because she's not out there starting wars, doesn't mean that she hasn't been an incredibly influential and effective politician.

Hillary, on the other hand, got beaten by Donald Trump.

For Americans, who else? :rolleyes:

Russia?
 
Hillary, on the other hand, got beaten by Donald Trump.

In her defense, she did get more votes. But of course she'd have won if she'd been just the least bit effective as a politician.


Electoral college. So yes, in a way.

Did anyone of the americans here benefit of the tax reforms?

Yup, I did. I think a lot of people did actually - the standard deduction was raised quite substantially. Some people might have broken even under the tax law but still come out ahead because they can prepare their own taxes now instead of itemizing. There is a small group of people with income in like approximately the $500k range that took a hit. Also there are some people with expensive property in (mostly) blue states that took a hit because of SALT deductions getting hammered.
 
Did anyone of the americans here benefit of the tax reforms?
I didn't see much of a difference. I did notice they are taking out more, so I got a little bigger refund. I need to adjust my withholdings, I could use my $7K instead of giving them a year long interest free loan...(that's one thing I really hate, we owe taxes we owe interest, they owe us a refund we get no interest)
And for the 2nd year ever, I got a refund from the state!
 
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Nothing like a bit of Mr Nixon Tattoo grovelling to add some seasoning to the nothingburger.
 
There is a small group of people with income in like approximately the $500k range that took a hit. Also there are some people with expensive property in (mostly) blue states that took a hit because of SALT deductions getting hammered.

SOME people? I think you can pretty much include about 1/3 of the home owners in NY, NJ, CT, MA and a good portion of those in VT, NH & ME. Property taxes in those states far exceeds the national average. I pay over $15K/year in personal property taxes on my primary residence and I don't live in some extravagant McMansion or some exclusive neighborhood. That's pretty much average in this area of my state.

My wife, as a teacher, who regularly pays about $2~$3K per year in school supplies out of her own pocket, will also take a hit.

On the flip side, I also own and run my own International logistics, freight forwarding and consulting firm, which we just changed into a C-Corporation a year ago for reasons completely unrelated to the change in tax law. [Edit: That should, in theory, benefit me greatly] So everything is merging at the same time and I have yet to get a real handle on the-over-all picture, which will be vastly different compared to 2017. In fact, I may never be able to properly compare, year over year, and the new tax structure's direct affect on me, due to a number of additional factors.
 
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Its impressive how Trump was able to sell a tax reform for the rich and sell it to the US public as a Taxcut for the workingclass.

The standard deduction doubling is not a hit to the working class. And their rates didn't go up. Some people may have been taking specific deductions that are being removed, but the standard deduction increase should make up for that. The standard deduction catching way more people (and it is) has side benefits as well, like reducing the burden of tax preparation on the economy, and reducing the workload of the IRS.

If someone is "working class", whatever that means, unless they're a rare exception, they should benefit from the tax change.
 
The standard deduction doubling is not a hit to the working class. And their rates didn't go up. Some people may have been taking specific deductions that are being removed, but the standard deduction increase should make up for that. The standard deduction catching way more people (and it is) has side benefits as well, like reducing the burden of tax preparation on the economy, and reducing the workload of the IRS.

If someone is "working class", whatever that means, unless they're a rare exception, they should benefit from the tax change.

In my use I personally meant blue collar trumpvoting people. Did it benefit the lower to median income just as much as the more wealthy?
 
In my use I personally meant blue collar trumpvoting people. Did it benefit the lower to median income just as much as the more wealthy?
Possibly a few weeks premature to ask that question. Most will start putting pencil to paper just prior to April 15th.
 
In my use I personally meant blue collar trumpvoting people. Did it benefit the lower to median income just as much as the more wealthy?

What do you mean by "just as much"? Everyone's taxes are very unique, based on their personal use of items that were favored or disfavored by the previous and current tax code. The standard deduction going up should help everyone that it catches, which I think is something crazy, like 90% of people filing. Whether that help is offset by losses in other areas (like SALT deductions) is hard to say. That might be state-specific.
 
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