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That really is the question at the core of this: how did it happen? Is it simply who America is? And to what extent is this going to play out in the other western democracies over the next few years?

I used to think (and say) that however bad the situation seemed at times in the past few decades, the progress overall was to a more just, equitable and prosperous world. Now this seems much less certain. Regressive forces are on the march in a way not seen since the 1930's. I worry about the future my daughters - now in their 20's - will face in the coming years.
Trump already told Australian Prime Minister they’ll be perfect friends. Already talks about Australia getting a pass on tariffs.
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Trump already told Australian Prime Minister they’ll be perfect friends. Already talks about Australia getting a pass on tariffs.
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Is there a point to your post? Australia is a long way from the US. In 2022 its largest export to the US was sheep & goat meat, valued at $1.12B US, with total exports to the US valued at $13.7B US. In contrast, Canadian exports to the US totalled $438B US and Mexican exports to the US were $493B US. Trump doesn't care about Australia.
 
Is there a point to your post? Australia is a long way from the US. In 2022 its largest export to the US was sheep & goat meat, valued at $1.12B US, with total exports to the US valued at $13.7B US. In contrast, Canadian exports to the US totalled $438B US and Mexican exports to the US were $493B US. Trump doesn't care about Australia.
The numbers aren't the point. It reminds me of John Howard acting like best mate to George W.
With Albanese popularity dropping since he been PM, Trump saying what he said, I can see more of that sucking up and leaving the Australian people out to dry.
 
The world is a funny piece of ********. Mr. Orangeman wanting to get rid of the 14th amendment. You can argue all you want but the 14th is what made this country. If it wasn't for the 14th you wouldn't be here, I wouldn't be here. Our constitution is sacred and can't be ratified by an executive order. Does that all mean nothing to Orangeman?

i had Voted for Trump, yes, because I liked some of his policies, it doesn't mean I agree with everything he does... and this... I just can't agree with at all though. In any form. We, the American people, have a constitution for a reason, Trump.
 
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i had Voted for Trump, yes,
In 2024? If so, I have some questions.
because I liked some of his policies,
Which ones? And please ensure they were actual policies, not just vague promises that had no thought or consideration behind them.
it doesn't mean I agree with everything he does... and this... I just can't agree with at all though. In any form. We, the American people, have a constitution for a reason, Trump.
You value the constitution, but voted for someone who has long been clear in his utter contempt for it?

Those policy promises must have been amazing to make up for that. Let's be clear, Trump is doing exactly what he said he would and what people said he would do, how on earth can any of this be a surprise to you?
 
He's been against the 14th Amendment even before his first term.

August 19, 2015 / 10:44 AM EDT / CBS News
"I don't think they have American citizenship and if you speak to some very, very good lawyers -- and I know some will disagree, but many of them agree with me -- and you're going to find they do not have American citizenship," Trump said Tuesday in an interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly. "We have to start a process where we take back our country. Our country is going to hell."

Birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment, which reads "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside."

I don't know what to tell anyone who thought otherwise when he made it clear it'd be one of the more extreme agendas he'd pursue this time. The courts are already pushing back, but he & Musk are trying to act like the Judicial Branch has no power over him and to do so would be a coup....
 
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He's been against the 14th Amendment even before his first term.

August 19, 2015 / 10:44 AM EDT / CBS News


I don't know what to tell anyone who thought otherwise when he made it clear it'd be one of the more extreme agendas he'd pursue this time. The courts are already pushing back, but he & Musk are trying to act like the Judicial Branch has no power over him and to do so would be a coup....
So that means there were TWO non-citizens in the White House during that interview.
 
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