America - The Official Thread

[Sprite]

You know you’re unliked when the Swiss do this at their Easter Parade…

 

[TexRex]

You know you’re unliked when the Swiss do this at their Easter Parade…

"TDS."

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

"TDS."

You must be doing something right if everyone hates you.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

You know you’re unliked when the Swiss do this at their Easter Parade…

The problem is that Trump thinks this means he's being successful.

In his view, for decades other countries have prospered due to unfair trade agreements, Trump wants to unsettle that and tilt trade back in the US' favour, to "Make America Great Again" which he knows will mean foreigners will be upset.

If every single person in the world (excluding his base) were to show their intolerance toward him, he'd chalk that up as a victory, as he defaults other people's attitudes towards him to be due to him "empowering" the US with the trade wars.

He thinks he is winning and everyone else hates him for it. His own stupidity doesn't exist in his world, so it's not a factor.

 

[TexRex]

In his view, for decades other countries have prospered due to unfair trade agreements, Trump wants to unsettle that and tilt trade back in the US' favour, to "Make America Great Again" which he knows will mean foreigners will be upset.

This misunderstands Trump. A big part of this misunderstanding Trump is that Trump presents as much, to be fair, but then Trump is a lying rat so that's ultimately on those that believe Trump.

Trump wants to benefit personally. That's it. Trump doesn't produce anything or provide a legitimate service, so Trump benefits personally by being in a position to eliminate competition for those that compensate Trump for that illegitimate service.

 

[Tornado]

12 hours from "We'll going to stand in solidarity with our counterparts in the House to block this" to "We're going to vote so hard for this that it will clear the filibuster threshold by several votes." No extracted concessions. No reason given for rolling over and destroying the only leverage they will probably have in this entire congressional cycle. Even people who aren't running for reelection went in on it.




Truly unparalleled levels of cowardice, idiocy and incompetence.

 

[Darla Starch]

Chuck Schumer (clown)

 

[Danoff]

12 hours from "We'll going to stand in solidarity with our counterparts in the House to block this" to "We're going to vote so hard for this that it will clear the filibuster threshold by several votes." No extracted concessions. No reason given for rolling over and destroying the only leverage they will probably have in this entire congressional cycle. Even people who aren't running for reelection went in on it.

Truly unparalleled levels of cowardice, idiocy and incompetence.

He's worried about what a shutdown means for power in the short term. Schumer's political career seems to be coming to an end anyway. I think he believes he's throwing himself on the grenade. It's not clear to me whether he's failing to meet the gravity of the moment or is one of the few that actually recognizes it.

Schumer signaling one way and AOC signalling the other way is possibly the chosen strategy for handling the Kobayashi Maru they're in. Or maybe they're really in disarray. Whatever it is, I wouldn't assume that Schumer's flip is idiocy. It might still be the wrong choice, I couldn't tell you, but I think Schumer sees a real threat in shutdown. The specific threat he has stated is that he thinks that it can enable faster, more legally supported, firings of government workers.

 

[TexRex]

Kobayashi Maru

 

[Tornado]

He's worried about what a shutdown means for power in the short term. Schumer's political career seems to be coming to an end anyway.

I think he's well past needing to worry about his career "coming" to an end anymore. He's done. I'd be amazed if AOC doesn't use this as a pretext to primary his dumbass and take his seat.

I think he believes he's throwing himself on the grenade. It's not clear to me whether he's failing to meet the gravity of the moment or is one of the few that actually recognizes it.

Schumer signaling one way and AOC signalling the other way is possibly the chosen strategy for handling the Kobayashi Maru they're in. Or maybe they're really in disarray. Whatever it is, I wouldn't assume that Schumer's flip is idiocy. It might still be the wrong choice, I couldn't tell you, but I think Schumer sees a real threat in shutdown. The specific threat he has stated is that he thinks that it can enable faster, more legally supported, firings of government workers.

This is the stuff Schumer was saying on Wednesday, loudly to all the press listening:

“Funding the government should be a bipartisan effort, but Republicans chose a partisan path, drafting their continuing resolution without any input — any input — from congressional Democrats. Because of that, Republicans do not have the votes in the Senate to invoke cloture on the House CR,”

“Republicans do not have the votes in the Senate to invoke cloture on the House CR. Our caucus is unified on a clean April 11 CR,” Schumer said during a Senate floor speech.

“We should vote on that,” Schumer said. “I hope — I hope — our Republican colleagues will join us to avoid a shutdown on Friday.”

Assuming that the things you are saying are true by any measure, even just delusions inside his own mind, what changed between Wednesday and Thursday that not only led to the hold on his conference collapsing but him personally voting in favor of it even though it already had the votes to pass? The thing widely condemned across his party that he insisted he would hold the line against wasn't even worth a meaningless protest vote from the Senate minority leader mere hours later?



Is it because Trump called him a fake-Jew terrorist on Twitter?

 

[Danoff]

Is it because Trump called him a fake-Jew terrorist on Twitter?

He did actually comment on it and said that he was concerned about empowering Trump and Elon in a shutdown. I don't know how real it is. I'm just relaying to you that he did give a reason.