It's not incompetence on his part, it's active malice. Trump/Musk/GOP has made it clear they don't want a shutdown and there's nothing to suggest there's any ulterior motives behind that.
I don't think that's accurate.
If there was a legitimate case, then how come literally every house Dem voted for the shutdown?
How long did you spend trying to answer this question and apparently coming up with nothing? I thought of a reason in 5 seconds - because it makes better press.
Besides, a government shutdown, even one that's comparatively lengthy, will be less destructive to the country than the GOP budget bill in the long term. It's not even a close call.
That depends on what gets done during the shutdown. I'm not sure how much you really considered the argument Schumer put forth.
It really says something that he's willing to appease the fascists simply because he won't be majority leader in the future (or even run for reelection if he opts for retirement) since that's the easier option than actual, meaningful resistance.
This is garbled. You're misunderstanding my own position and using that misunderstanding as a basis for claiming Schumer is doing something that it can't really be argued Schumer is doing. Schumer's not appeasing fascists, at least not according to his statements. He's preventing what he sees as greater control for fascists. And it was my statement that his career is probably ending, not his.
This response of yours is not really honest. I think you knew you were mashing up two different things to get to a different point. It's not something I want to spend much responding to other than to say that this kind of argument is a waste.
The Democrats can't bank on the fact that Trump's unpopularity will solely occur because of his own reckless governance and economic fallout, especially given how cultish MAGA really is- they're already blaming the falling stock market and looming recession on "fixing Biden's mess". Effective opposition from the Dems is a powerful, necessary tool to make Trump less popular and more hated. And that's the problem with Schumer- he's utterly incapable of meeting the moment.
I agree with most of that. Pelosi was the right person for the moment 5 years ago.
While (up until this moment at least) Schumer has been a fine statesman and voted the right way, this is not nearly enough. Schumer has no rizz. How many people are actually enthusiastic about him? He has governed like a bureaucratic administrator instead of a politician- which requires being popular- which is not only ineffective in regards to tackling Trump but also as the de-facto leader of an entire political party to begin with.
No argument.
The Dems need people like AOC and Bernie to replace Schumer and Jeffries. Whether they're "too far left" or not doesn't matter- they are literally the most popular and widely known Democrats and also the loudest, most fearless voices in the defense of democracy. Third Way neoliberalism is not only incapable of defeating fascism, but ill-suited to prevent it from taking hold in the first place. Moderate dems need to come to terms with the fact that literally any Republican is a much bigger threat than the progressive/leftist dems, which requires both a unified front and potentially ceding some of their influence in the party.
Yes but... Schumer is part of the team, and literal opposition to everything just because is it republican is counterproductive. For example, as much as I hate RFK Jr., he is doing a couple of things that are beneficial.
Here's the most likely scenario. Schumer, like Jeffries/house Dems, was initially on board with the shutdown. Then, he got some phone calls, from the party's biggest, most influential ultra-wealthy/corporate donors.
You avoid listening to Schumer's explanation, or immediately dismiss it in favor of cynicism and conspiracy. There is no need for this demonization. What you're accusing Schumer of doesn't just fail to fit his actions, it's also really immoral and dehumanizing. It doesn't fit the facts well, is wholly unnecessary to explain the facts, and goes out of its way to rip a human being to shreds, for no apparent reason other than what... to make you feel better or something?
It's vicious, and it's tough to watch.
So Schumer (assuming he doesn't run for re-election) is the fall guy. Almost the entire party is outraged by him, rightfully so, but in the end he faces no real consequences.
Being the fall guy, ending your career as a pariah and intentionally undermining your goals is no consequences? Are you paying attention to your own argument?
Democrats only have themselves to blame if they lose in 2026 and 2028
Aside from republicans sure.
Nevertheless, Schumer, and the 9 other "moderate" senate dems behavior is aiding and abetting a fascist takeover of the United States, full stop.
If you think you understand the situation better than they do and come to the conclusion that they're wrong, sure. My question is how you can manage to be so convinced of this that you state it as indisputable fact? If Schumer is right, he's fighting facists in the best way he could despite personal consequences. If Schumer is right, he threw himself on the grenade that is essentially comprised of you and your anger in order to fight fascism. You dismiss this so completely, so confidently, but you can't know that you're right.
Stop trying to eviscerate people that you don't know you should be eviscerating. Schumer is done anyway. Direct your ire at the republicans and Elon.
