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I find it amusing that we didn't place tariffs on Russia because "we don't trade with them" even though we do, yet North Korea, Iran, and, again, uninhabited islands did get tariffed.

I also find it amusing that "bad actors" like Madagascar are expected to buy more US goods even though their median salary works out to be around $100 a month. What US products are they supposed to buy? That countries entire GDP is a little less than San Francisco's municipal budget.
 
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Huh. When things get too expensive, you can just not buy them and so you should shut up about the policy that made them more expensive? That's so enlightened.

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You could also point out that 7 figure salaries are "wants" and not "needs", but hey, we know the game doesn't work that way... After all if upper management stopped chasing 7 figure salaries, they could stop chasing higher profits, so everything would be cheaper and we'd live in a world of reasonably priced products where profits are more equally shared and everyone lives comfortably!

Queue up 'Imagine' by John Lennon please...
 
I just wanted to point out the extraordinary impact Trump has had on Canadian politics. The graph shows the projected likelihood of a Liberal or Conservative win in the next GE based on polling over a period from 2021 to the present. The Conservative party caught up with the Liberals starting at the beginning of 2023. They then climbed to a 100% expectation of winning by the Fall of 2023. This continued until Jan 2025 when Trump started with his tariff and annexation threats. Current polling shows the Liberals with a 90% probability of winning the election, with the Conservatives around 10%.

The Conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre, has seen his prospects collapse as he has become identified with the MAGA movement. Trying to distance himself from Trump hasn't helped his cause ... but has drawn the ire of Trump who said "he's stupidly no friend of mine" because "he has said negative things". With Trump everything is personal - there's nothing more important and tender than his grotesquely inflated ego.


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I maybe alone in this, but I just wish the UK was more stern regarding this. However the Brits are doing the typical sitting on the fence while talking tough but fair strategy, let’s get tough and lower tariffs against other countries at the same time to spure a sidelining of America (sorry Americans who didn’t vote for trump) and hopefully open better trade avenues across the globe.

I also think this a good time to sweeten China, not only will this be of a benefit but also give some leverage to get them to put the screws on Putin too. We’ve already seen South Korea, China and Japan look to open talks.

I’d also like to see closer ties with the EU, Canada and Australia.
 
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I maybe alone in this, but I just wish the UK was more stern regarding this. However the Brits are doing the typical sitting on the fence while talking tough but fair strategy, let’s get tough and lower tariffs against other countries age the same time to spure a sidelining of America (sorry Americans who didn’t vote for trump) and hopefully open better trade avenues across the globe.

I also think this a good time to sweeten China, or only will this be of a benefit but also give some leverage to get them to put the screws on Putin too. We’ve already seen South Korea, China and Japan look to open talks.

I’d also like to see closer ties with the EU, Canada and Australia.
This might end up uniting everyone against Trump. Who knew Trump would end up making himself a pariah? (Aside from everyone with a brain.)
 
This might end up uniting everyone against Trump. Who knew Trump would end up making himself a pariah? (Aside from everyone with a brain.)
I’d love this to get everyone cooperating more and even open avenues for other countries who have nit been included thus far, basically trashing BRICS.

Tantrump will just claim this was his plan all along.
 
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I maybe alone in this, but I just wish the UK was more stern regarding this. However the Brits are doing the typical sitting on the fence while talking tough but fair strategy, let’s get tough and lower tariffs against other countries age the same time to spure a sidelining of America (sorry Americans who didn’t vote for trump) and hopefully open better trade avenues across the globe.

I also think this a good time to sweeten China, not only will this be of a benefit but also give some leverage to get them to put the screws on Putin too. We’ve already seen South Korea, China and Japan look to open talks.

I’d also like to see closer ties with the EU, Canada and Australia.

Frustratingly there is still the absolute moron in the street saying crap like "I wish we had a leader that would do stuff like this for hard working British people"...
 
Frustratingly there is still the absolute moron in the street saying crap like "I wish we had a leader that would do stuff like this for hard working British people"...
Don’t get me started. We have two in our immediate family. Who are both work-shy ass hats, who if this was happening here in the UK they would be the ones probably hit the hardest.
 
Another video from James O'Brien. All Americans should watch this.


Could you at least put the time to start watching from... or better yet, time stamp it. No ones going to trawl through nearly two and half hours.
Frustratingly there is still the absolute moron in the street saying crap like "I wish we had a leader that would do stuff like this for hard working British people"...
It's the same in Australia unfortunately :(
 
I maybe alone in this, but I just wish the UK was more stern regarding this.
Not alone. I'm definitely on the side of rational nations taking action against madness. At this point the most patriotic option for Americans is to stand with other countries.
 
I suppose one advantage of physical cash/wealth in your pocket is a tangible sense of loss if you lose it. A gullible person in a contactless, fully-digitalised society probably could be gaslit to fall for something like this.
You're right, and the rat bitch certainly knows its base.
 
Not alone. I'm definitely on the side of rational nations taking action against madness. At this point the most patriotic option for Americans is to stand with other countries.
I genuinely feel gutted for the sane Americans who didn’t ask for all this mess.

The USA has got a long way to go, and if by some stroke of luck Trump and his cronies are finally ousted, it will be a long way back, but if one country could do that, it would be the USA.
 
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I just wanted to point out the extraordinary impact Trump has had on Canadian politics. The graph shows the projected likelihood of a Liberal or Conservative win in the next GE based on polling over a period from 2021 to the present. The Conservative party caught up with the Liberals starting at the beginning of 2023. They then climbed to a 100% expectation of winning by the Fall of 2023. This continued until Jan 2025 when Trump started with his tariff and annexation threats. Current polling shows the Liberals with a 90% probability of winning the election, with the Conservatives around 10%.

The Conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre, has seen his prospects collapse as he has become identified with the MAGA movement. Trying to distance himself from Trump hasn't helped his cause ... but has drawn the ire of Trump who said "he's stupidly no friend of mine" because "he has said negative things". With Trump everything is personal - there's nothing more important and tender than his grotesquely inflated ego.


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It also helps that Mark Carney is a former Head of the Bank of England and former Head of the Bank of Canada.

Trump claims to know "the art of the deal" as if he's a magic man with numbers (I swear he pulls numbers from the 'nutritional ingredients' label of his Sunny D containers). Mark Carney actually has proven and tested understanding of economics. Carney is exactly the type of man you want incharge during a trade war.
 
Trump has this magical belief that if Americans choose to spend $X billion for goods and services from any country, then that country should have to buy $X billion in goods and services from the US. That way it is "fair".

Let me simplify it for you all. If I go to a restaurant and spend $100 on a meal, that restaurant should be required to buy $100 worth of goods and services from me, otherwise "it's unfair".

Seems reasonable 🤔. /S

"Liberation Day" has liberated us from the freedom to choose to freely buy goods or services from other countries. Now we have to pay extra for the privilege. I can't understand why our government has been holding out on this benefit for all these years and it took electing Trump to liberate us from this freedom. /S

In case it escaped you, this is a country with a lot of stupid people. Maybe Trump slapped a tariff on those penguins because they are smarter than MAGA?
 
Trump has this magical belief that if Americans choose to spend $X billion for goods and services from any country, then that country should have to buy $X billion in goods and services from the US. That way it is "fair".

Let me simplify it for you all. If I go to a restaurant and spend $100 on a meal, that restaurant should be required to buy $100 worth of goods and services from me, otherwise "it's unfair".

Seems reasonable 🤔. /S

"Liberation Day" has liberated us from the freedom to choose to freely buy goods or services from other countries. Now we have to pay extra for the privilege. I can't understand why our government has been holding out on this benefit for all these years and it took electing Trump to liberate us from this freedom. /S

In case it escaped you, this is a country with a lot of stupid people. Maybe Trump slapped a tariff on those penguins because they are smarter than MAGA?
Pretty much that.

A bunch of people at my company just got “liberated” from their jobs yesterday. One of them my ex boss that was there over twenty years. We’ll see how bad it gets. No words to describe how stupid republicans are tbh.
 
This messaging is A-MA-ZING.

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"Poverty is freedom, comrades."
This is speedrunning Brexit cope. "We always knew it'd be difficult financially*, but it's worth it to take back control of our country†"

*They didn't, and trumpeted all the financial benefits during the lead-up to the vote.
† Which was always under control anyway
 
The blood bath in the stock market is one thing. The real pain of tariffs is months out. I've just had an $80m project go on indefinite hold. Another $80m project has just signed a guaranteed maximum price agreement (a few weeks ago) which means the contractor is almost certain to lose money, best case scenario, or flat out go bankrupt because they probably haven't been able to buy out all the scope that is now instantly 5-20% more expensive. The construction industry is about to get absolutely hammered.
 
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