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My FB feed is getting more and more political lately:

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Opinion polls and studies are precious little more than bandwagon fallacy fodder. It's important to remember that no matter your personal biases or how so very desperately I want them to be accurate.
 
Opinion polls and studies are precious little more than bandwagon fallacy fodder. It's important to remember that no matter your personal biases or how so very desperately I want them to be accurate.
I agree. Just reading conservatives getting their minds blown by this is at least a little amusing.
 
It's good to see one of your senators sticking up for Australia.



And just as FYI, Jamieson Greer is a liar. US beef is not banned in Australia (I'm not sure about pork though). It went through our bio security checks and passed, but the US then wanted to include Canadian and Mexican beef as well which has not been cleared, so now the process has to start again to include the other two countries. Even when they were able to export to Australia they didn't... nothing, nada, zilch.


"I don't see us being swamped by American beef, in fact I'd say for the next five years, even if the US had open access, we'd see next to nothing coming out of America."
 
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Trump to impose 104% tariffs on China tonight.
This is just outright planning to start a war now. There is no other sensible reason to do this.

China won't go to war over this, but it's trying to instigate enough nationalistic fury in the American people that he'll have popular support when HE decides to go to war with China and/or whoever else. You can go to war without the popular support of the people, but it's not really sustainable.

Watch America start WW3 and then claim that the other side was the ones that started it all through aggressive trade practices. I'm sure Trump has a lot of practice with that line of thinking from "she made me rape her by dressing slutty".
Why the hell is he pushing the Nazis to be more humane than anyone?
Because Trump Republicans are Nazis. Even at a glance, the parallels are impossible to disguise. And so painting Nazis as not that bad is salvaging their own reputation.
 
China just announced retaliatory tariffs at 84%. Good thing nobody in the US gets anything important from there. Trump has graduated to 6D chess where the winning move is to take the opponent's king and insult its felt bottom.
 
Watch America start WW3 and then claim that the other side was the ones that started it all through aggressive trade practices. I'm sure Trump has a lot of practice with that line of thinking from "she made me rape her by dressing slutty".
Good luck starting an actual world war when you've just pissed-off and alienated all your allies.
 
China just announced retaliatory tariffs at 84%. Good thing nobody in the US gets anything important from there. Trump has graduated to 6D chess where the winning move is to take the opponent's king and insult its felt bottom.
Donald duck also apparently just said that because we have to pay way more for pharmaceuticals than elsewhere, there will be tariffs on them. Makes perfect sense to me, we pay a lot, let make us pay even more! Not sure where I mentioned it but if UPenn would have any balls, they would have publicly come out and announce that the orange man's economics degree is invalid... It would hurt his ego more than anything else, just imagine the orange paint flowing down off his face due to his rage...
 
China just announced retaliatory tariffs at 84%. Good thing nobody in the US gets anything important from there. Trump has graduated to 6D chess where the winning move is to take the opponent's king and insult its felt bottom.
The things you import from China are hit by Trump's tariffs. So the 6D winning move appears to be punching yourself until your opponent surrenders.
 
The things you import from China are hit by Trump's tariffs. So the 6D winning move appears to be punching yourself until your opponent surrenders.
Trump would find a sycophant willing to do this for him. Probably Lutnick.
 
China just announced retaliatory tariffs at 84%. Good thing nobody in the US gets anything important from there. Trump has graduated to 6D chess where the winning move is to take the opponent's king and insult its felt bottom.
Trump imposed a 34% tariff on Chinese goods. China immediately responded with a 34% tariff of its own. Trump upped the ante with another 50% — and again, China matched him. In the end, China is doing what Trump claimed to be doing all along: reciprocal tariffs.

But this is more than a tit-for-tat. It reveals the deeper asymmetry in this conflict — one that should concern every American watching this unfold.

China plays the long game. Their economic planning spans decades. Ours barely stretches beyond the next earnings call or election cycle. While Trump lobs tariffs like grenades at rallies, China quietly responds with precise countermeasures that exploit America’s lack of strategic endurance.

And when it comes to economic pain? China can take it. The Chinese government controls the media, manages public sentiment, and can suppress unrest. Americans, by contrast, will demand relief — loudly — when prices rise, markets tumble, or jobs get hit. Politicians here are far more responsive to discomfort — not because they’re soft, but because our democracy forces them to be.

Meanwhile, the biggest weapon China hasn’t drawn — and may not need to — is its vast holdings of U.S. Treasury bonds. They don’t have to sell them. Just hinting at it could shake markets, raise U.S. borrowing costs, and rattle investor confidence. In this trade war, uncertainty itself is a weapon — and China is a master of ambiguity.

Here’s the real danger: Trump doesn’t have a plan. He has Concepts-Of-A-Plan™, and a flair for escalation without strategy. And Republicans standing with him? They’re on quicksand. They may talk tough now, but if this conflict starts sinking rural exporters, working-class voters, and Wall Street in one blow — expect the so-called party of business to fold like a cheap suit.

Maybe that’s the silver lining. If things escalate fast enough, maybe — just maybe — the GOP will find its backbone and realize this isn’t strength. It’s self-sabotage.
 
...Meanwhile, the biggest weapon China hasn’t drawn — and may not need to — is its vast holdings of U.S. Treasury bonds. They don’t have to sell them. Just hinting at it could shake markets, raise U.S. borrowing costs, and rattle investor confidence. In this trade war, uncertainty itself is a weapon — and China is a master of ambiguity.
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Speaking of "selling bonds", from the New York Times a couple of minutes ago...

"A sharp sell-off in U.S. government bond markets has sparked fears about the growing fallout from President Trump’s sweeping tariffs and retaliation by China, the European Union and others, raising questions about what is typically seen as the safest corner for investors to take cover during times of turmoil.

Yields on 10-year Treasuries — the benchmark for a wide variety of debt — shot 0.2 percentage points higher on Wednesday, to 4.45 percent, a big move in that market. Just a few days ago, it had traded below 4 percent. Yields on the 30-year bond rose significantly as well, at one point on Wednesday topping 5 percent. Borrowing costs globally have also shot higher."
 
I better start collecting rocks to consider using as currency.
Given that Elon Musk slammed Peter Navarro (President Trump’s top trade adviser) as “dumber than a sack of bricks” yesterday, I think that's an endorsement for bricks. I'm going for bricks, not rocks.
 
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