Another mall shooting - Nebraska

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Good points.
So what are the requirements today for getting a gun? None? (legaly)
Me from post 20
NICS

We do have to apply and wait.

Pipe bombs are cheap and easy to make. It would even be easier to smuggle a backpack full of them into the mall and start lobbing them off the baclony and onto crowded escalators.
You've been playing too much Duke Nukem!
Or he just knows how the kids in Columbine did it. Trust me, as a kid that liked to play with fire in the backyard and make homemade explosives this is very, very easy to do. And an ounce of creativity (or movie watching) will help you also turn it into a frag grenade so even people outside the flames will be injured.

Seriously though, what is driving US teenagers to embark on such rampages? I just can't get my head around it. It's not like they're trying to get revenge on someone because the attack never seems to have a particular target.
I honestly believe it has to do with part of American culture. America has a wide income gap and even amongst kids in the same income class there are cooler and richer kids. Role models and even community leaders in the states throw out this perecption that you are being held down by the man and you cannot improve your life. These kids believe this, so if they are poor, picked on, or have a few bad events happen in their lives they think they have no recourse to find happiness or improve their situations. So they become angry at the big, mean world and decide their life isn't worth anything. And as both this case and the VA Tech shooter both said in their suicide messages, they will finally be famous. They believe their only recourse for noteriety is death and suicide.

Honestly, a little more parental and community involvement could help stop a lot of this.

And of course, teen violence has not grown nearly as much as the media coverage of teen violence has.
 
This is starting to get old. I remember when this happened in Kansas City a year or so ago. I hope this doesn't become a trend.

My condolences to those involved and their families.

Three girls in my government class were across the street the day that shooting happened in KC.

I'm deeply saddened as well. My condolences to the victims' families. Now we get to hear more crap from "Mr." Thompson...
 
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BBC
Gun rampage US teen note released

Eyewitness account
Police have released a suicide note written by the teenager who shot dead eight people in a US shopping centre.

In the note, Robert Hawkins, 19, from Bellevue, Nebraska, said he "just snapped" before opening fire at the Westroads Mall in Omaha on Wednesday.

And he predicted that "everyone will remember me as some sort of monster".

Police say Hawkins fired more than 30 rounds from an SKS assault rifle as he killed six workers at the Von Maur department store and two customers.

'Meaningless existence"

"Please understand that I just don't want to be a burden on the ones that I care for my entire life," Hawkins said in his note.

The three-page letter also contains an apology to Hawkins' family:

"I'm so sorry for what I've put you through. I never meant to hurt all of you so much and I don't blame any one of you for disowning me," he wrote.

"I've just snapped - I can't take this meaningless existence anymore. I've been a constant disappointment and that trend would have only continued."


He was introverted, a troubled young man who was like a lost pound puppy that nobody wanted
Debora Maruca Kovac
Mother of gunman's friend

Shooter 'had problems'

And he anticipated that his actions would bring him notoriety:

"Just think tho - I'm gonna be ... famous," he wrote, in a passage addressed to his friends.

As well as the suicide note, police also released CCTV footage of Hawkins entering the shopping centre and aiming his weapon.

Police said Hawkins appeared to shoot at random and the incident was over before officers, alerted by a 911 emergency call, could intervene.

Map: Westroads mall location and layout

Hawkins struck as the centre was crowded with Christmas shoppers, and witnesses spoke of people screaming and scrambling to find safe shelter.

Witnesses said Hawkins fired down on shoppers from a balcony on the third floor of the Von Maur store.

'Lost puppy'

He is said to have suffered from depression in the past, and recently lost his job at McDonald's and broke up with his girlfriend.


US MASS SHOOTINGS IN 2007
Oct: Asa H Coon, 14, shoots four people, injuring them, at his school in Cleveland, Ohio, before killing himself.
April: Cho Seung-hui , 23, shoots 32 people dead on campus of Virginia Tech university, Virginia, then kills himself.
Feb: Sulejman Talovic, 18, shoots dead five people and injures four at a mall in Salt Lake City, Utah, before being killed by police.

He was living with a friend's family in Bellevue, an Omaha suburb.

His friend's mother, Debora Maruca Kovac, told the Associated Press news agency that when he first came to live with them, "he was introverted, a troubled young man who was like a lost pound puppy that nobody wanted".

She said he phoned her about 1300 on Wednesday, telling her that he had left a note for her in his bedroom. She tried to get him to explain.

"He said, 'It's too late'," and then hung up, she told CNN.

The incident is the latest in a series of mass shootings in the US, which have reignited the debate in the US about gun ownership.

The Supreme Court will consider Americans' right to bear arms early next year for the first time in nearly 70 years.

He would be from Bellevue.

I think it is interesting that the country is bringing the right to own guns back up. The law is pretty obsolete by now.

Those articles can be a little hard to pick apart. I apologize if it is a little hard to read.
 
Again I can not stress enough what a #$^&* idiot this guys is... Burden? Man I can't wait til the day someone invents a machine to bring back someone from the dead to tell them what a !@#$%^& idiot they are and then shoot them in the head. :rolleyes:
 
Again I can not stress enough what a #$^&* idiot this guys is... Burden? Man I can't wait til the day someone invents a machine to bring back someone from the dead to tell them what a !@#$%^& idiot they are and then shoot them in the head. :rolleyes:

Emotions do weird things to people. Ever wonder why we can never understand girls?
 
Hmm... Well, I don't think anyone has ever gone and shot up a mall because the guy got rejected from a girl. :dopey:
 
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