Anyone Good With HTML?

[epic]

Im Trying To Make A Website On Sharkport Code/Game Saves On It.

Is There Anyone On This Site Who Is Good With HTML?

If So Contact Me By Replyin To This Post Or My Email Or AiM

AiM: DavieBoy954
Email: lilcokekrush@hotmail.com

Thanks In Advance.

Also if Jordan Happens To Read This I Was Wondering If I Could Put A Banner Of GTPlanet On My Site?

 

[Deathhawk]

Yep. I can help. Depends what you want.

I own a web development company.

 

[TAFJonathan]

I too can help, and I too have a web development company, Freeform Web Design.

To see some of my work, look at www.aviationforum.org

 

[Pako]

Originally posted by epic


Also if Jordan Happens To Read This I Was Wondering If I Could Put A Banner Of GTPlanet On My Site?

Check this out:
https://www.gtplanet.net/linktogtp.htm

 

[epic]

Thanks Pako.

And I Need Like A Table Chart Thing, To Space These Games Out.

Here Is The Link Of The Beginning Of The Site. Its Not Even Close To Done Yet But I Need A Table and To Center It.

http://shark-exchange.cjb.net

Brace Yourself, Its My First Website Ever.

If You Can Help Then Drop You AOL or Yahoo Messenger Names or EmAIL Address.

Thanks In Advance

 

[Deathhawk]

wavindustries@home.com

I only have MSN messanger:
offroadman3@hotmail.com

 

[Deathhawk]

ummm... arn't you already using a table? just use the <center></center> command to move that to the middle..

 

[Pako]

Don't ever say I never gave you nothin',

 

[Pako]

Try this one:

 

[Pako]

Then you can add this where you would like it placed in your page:

<OBJECT CLASSID="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" WIDTH="468"
HEIGHT="68" CODEBASE="http://active.macromedia.com/flash5/cabs/
swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0">
<PARAM NAME="MOVIE" VALUE="https://www.gtplanet.net/images/banners/flashbanner.swf">
<PARAM NAME="PLAY" VALUE="true">
<PARAM NAME="LOOP" VALUE="true">
<PARAM NAME="QUALITY" VALUE="high">

<EMBED SRC="https://www.gtplanet.net/images/banners/flashbanner.swf"
 WIDTH="468" HEIGHT="68" PLAY="true" LOOP="true" QUALITY="high" 
PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/downloa
d/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"> 
</EMBED>

</OBJECT>

 

[LoudMusic]

Originally posted by Pako
Try this one:

What nasty table builder did you use to make that? There are tons of cells with nothing but wasted div tags! Keep in mind, all that extra bloated code makes the download longer for the dialup users.

~LoudMusic

 

[Pako]

Originally posted by LoudMusic


What nasty table builder did you use to make that? There are tons of cells with nothing but wasted div tags! Keep in mind, all that extra bloated code makes the download longer for the dialup users.

~LoudMusic

WHOA?!?!?! You don't have to be so hard on me.... I was just trying to help...

I'm afraid that I didn't take much care in this one... I selected the entire table and added the center property, which added that tag to each cell...

 

[LoudMusic]

Originally posted by Pako


WHOA?!?!?! You don't have to be so hard on me.... I was just trying to help...

I'm afraid that I didn't take much care in this one... I selected the entire table and added the center property, which added that tag to each cell...

Sorry didn't mean to come across harsh. But that's exactly the reason why hand coding html is so much better than any html editing tool that I have ever come across. The programs are meant to account for anything, when actually there is a very spacific goal in mind.

~LoudMusic

 

[Pako]

Originally posted by LoudMusic


Sorry didn't mean to come across harsh. But that's exactly the reason why hand coding html is so much better than any html editing tool that I have ever come across. The programs are meant to account for anything, when actually there is a very spacific goal in mind.

~LoudMusic

Just think how much bandwidth could be saved each day if every page on the net were hand coded? Perhaps we could start a movement!

 

[Jordan]

Thanks for linking to GTPlanet, epic!

 

[LoudMusic]

Originally posted by Pako


Just think how much bandwidth could be saved each day if every page on the net were hand coded? Perhaps we could start a movement!

Heh heh, I already tried. The movement died when Yahoo! refused to hand write the search results pages. They said something about, "we're not gonna hand code no 100,000 stinking pages a minute you stupid punk!" ... or something. Don't quote me on that (:

But seriously, I've been to sites who's welcome page was a couple hundred kilobytes, and it had about 40 linked images. At 5kb/s (and that's good for 56k), it would take over a minute just to get the stupid welcome page! Every byte counts, and in html a byte equals a character - including returns and spaces. It's definitely something to think about when you're desiging large scale sites.

If you look at Google's approach, they knew their service was going to be very popular and require loads of bandwidth. The welcome page is quick and simple, because it gets requests hundreds of thousands of times a day. Every character they can remove is worth almost a megabyte of bandwidth. So they made it as simple as possible, then removed all the extra returns. Probably saved them a gigabyte of throughput a day ... EVERY DAY! Then when you take a gander at the search results, it's more of the same. Stripped down code to make it as effecient as possible. You'll also notice how few of images there are. The same goes for Yahoo. I remember when they only had four images on their main page - the banner, and the three credit card icons.

And besides, it's easier to go back and fix/change things when you've actually written it by hand. I saw a page that a guy had re-edited so many times, that it had overlapping / repeating / conflicting code and wouldn't load correctly in any browser. It was amazing ...

~LoudMusic

 

[epic]

OK this is my first website, how do I center those thumbnails and the top banner that says shark exchange?

 

[LoudMusic]

Originally posted by epic
OK this is my first website, how do I center those thumbnails and the top banner that says shark exchange?

http://www.w3schools.com/

~LoudMusic

 

[Jordan]

Yeah, also check out http://www.htmlgoodies.com. :thumbsup:

 

[Pako]

Originally posted by LoudMusic


Heh heh, I already tried. The movement died when Yahoo! refused to hand write the search results pages. They said something about, "we're not gonna hand code no 100,000 stinking pages a minute you stupid punk!" ... or something. Don't quote me on that (:

But seriously, I've been to sites who's welcome page was a couple hundred kilobytes, and it had about 40 linked images. At 5kb/s (and that's good for 56k), it would take over a minute just to get the stupid welcome page! Every byte counts, and in html a byte equals a character - including returns and spaces. It's definitely something to think about when you're desiging large scale sites.

If you look at Google's approach, they knew their service was going to be very popular and require loads of bandwidth. The welcome page is quick and simple, because it gets requests hundreds of thousands of times a day. Every character they can remove is worth almost a megabyte of bandwidth. So they made it as simple as possible, then removed all the extra returns. Probably saved them a gigabyte of throughput a day ... EVERY DAY! Then when you take a gander at the search results, it's more of the same. Stripped down code to make it as effecient as possible. You'll also notice how few of images there are. The same goes for Yahoo. I remember when they only had four images on their main page - the banner, and the three credit card icons.

And besides, it's easier to go back and fix/change things when you've actually written it by hand. I saw a page that a guy had re-edited so many times, that it had overlapping / repeating / conflicting code and wouldn't load correctly in any browser. It was amazing ...

~LoudMusic

Well thats a very good point, one that I have over looked. Well I will try and do my part! Time to thow away Dreamweaver and get my HTML book back out! I have to say that page editors have made me really, really, really lazy, and as a result, much has been forgotten over the years...

I will do my part to free up as much unnecessary code on my page... I will do my part. How about you Jordan? Are you in?

 

[LoudMusic]

Originally posted by Pako


Well thats a very good point, one that I have over looked. Well I will try and do my part! Time to thow away Dreamweaver and get my HTML book back out! I have to say that page editors have made me really, really, really lazy, and as a result, much has been forgotten over the years...

I will do my part to free up as much unnecessary code on my page... I will do my part. How about you Jordan? Are you in?

Ha ha. Dreamweaver actually is a pretty cool program. But I've seen some really bad mistakes made with it. One of the guys I work with posted an etire website with images linked to local files - you know src="c:\my documents\blah.jpg", classic stuff. Anyway, editors are cool as long as you actually know what you're doing and can skim through code to clean up where the editor leaves off. And most editors have a way to edit the code with special "HTML" highlighting, which I find very helpful. It helps you find errors and stuff.

Some helpfull sites:
http://www.w3schools.com
http://www.htmlgoodies.com

~LoudMusic

 

[Jordan]

Originally posted by Pako
I will do my part to free up as much unnecessary code on my page... I will do my part. How about you Jordan? Are you in?

Sorry, I think I might have to pass on that...re-coding a few hundred pages by hand isn't really at the top of my list right now.

 

[Deathhawk]

Dreamweaver is a great program.... I don't know how anyone manages to make it refrence to c:\**** I have never had it happen once...

There is also a command that is "clean up HTML" which takes all the code and makes it nice and neat....

Unfortunately, I do lots of ASP and JSP, and I really don't want to write, several THOUSAND lines of code by hand....

Think about it this way.... an extra 1000 characters of ASCII code will take 1 second extra to download on a 24.8 connection.....

It just takes the browser a longer time to take the lines of code and turn it into a pretty picture....

 

[Deathhawk]

Originally posted by Pako


Well thats a very good point, one that I have over looked. Well I will try and do my part! Time to thow away Dreamweaver and get my HTML book back out! I have to say that page editors have made me really, really, really lazy, and as a result, much has been forgotten over the years...

I will do my part to free up as much unnecessary code on my page... I will do my part. How about you Jordan? Are you in?

You would throw away a regestered 500 dollar copy of dreamweaver?????? It is registered right???? Just make sure you look at your code and see what it has before publishing.....

 

[Pako]

Oh yeah, definately registered! After two years I still haven't used my "Free" tech support!

 

[Deathhawk]

My "Free" tech support is gone and done with... I have been using Macromedia since drumbeat....

 

[epic]

I Got Dreamweaver and just about every other Macromedia software but have no idea on how to use them

*sits and wishes someone would teach him how to use dramweaver*

also

*sits and wishes someone would teach him how to use fireworks4*

 

[Deathhawk]

You don't know how to use them?? You paid the 600 for the package and don't know how to use them? I will try to find some tutorials for you to followw...

 

[Pako]

The online tutorials in the Full registered versions are very intuitive and helpful! Click on Help - > Tutorials for further information.

 

[Jordan]

Wow, you've spent quite a bit on software, epic...