Are Fanatec products (Gaming wheels) overpriced in Australia !

[Ustasa]

Are Fanatec products (Gaming wheels) overpriced in Australia !

Would the Australian consumer (citizen) like to see the Fanatec Gaming wheels priced appropriately to its direct competitor the Logitech G27 ($350) and not be charged the (in my opinion) ridiculously over priced $700+ from the current Australian distributor ?

I am hoping if we get enough in the polling that Thomas of Fanatec will realize and take into consideration that the Australian consumer (citizen) is quite dissatisfied with the price's they are being charged (for a product that is stated as being in direct competition in pricing and function to the Logitech G27 world wide) considering that Australians are being charged almost 2.5 times over what all of price regulated U.S/Canada and Europe are being charged .

Regards Paul

 

[[HR]Niels]

Hmmm Indeed pricing in Australia is rather overrated but has to do with your custom and shipping. I mean the price in europe and US arent that far apart only in Australia. Dont think Fanatec can do much about it. Good luck anyway

 

[Ustasa]

Hmmm Indeed pricing in Australia is rather overrated but has to do with your custom and shipping. I mean the price in europe and US arent that far apart only in Australia. Dont think Fanatec can do much about it. Good luck anyway

Thanks

U.S pricing in U.S. dollars $319 in Euro pricing converted to U.S. dollars $412 for CS pack

Europe pays more because of the huge VAT tax as Claudia Faltermeier of Fanatec has told me ! .

Australia does not pay these huge VAT taxes ! I have purchased a U.S. owned Sayabas product manufactured in China that was posted from China to my front door with absolutely no tax fee's we do not pay taxes for products below $1000 !

Look at Australia's pricing and you will see how really far apart to U.S./Canadian and European pricing Australia is we pay (for the version 1 model) $700+ and then have to also pay for it to get posted to the door , (Australia does not pay a VAT tax) it is the Australian distributor that is inflating the pricing to such ridiculous levels and it is Fanatecs lack of finding a decent Australian distributor to look after Australian customers that is doing this which it is Fanatecs responsibility to standardize pricing in Australia as it has been Fanatecs responsibility to standardize pricing in the U.S/Canada and Europe ! (we pay $299 just for the wheel itself I think it is called pure without postage/and we also pay $329 just for the clubsport pedals without postage/you guys pay $319 U.S. and 319 Euro for the complete CS pack we pay $700+ without postage , even more for the Turbo S which is $800+ without postage)

Try turning the tables so Fanatec does not standardize the U.S./Canadian and European prices so as to let some dodgy distributors inflate your countries pricing to what ever they want making your pricing roughly look like this with U.S./Canada pricing roughly at $450+ without postage and the European pricing roughly at $550+ without postage (which is still cheaper than the Australian $700+ without postage) and see what U.S/Canadian and European consumers would think if Australia was being charged the correct price of $350 !

Regards Paul

 

[[HR]Niels]

Well I dont know really all that musch about you shipping and tax costs.
But I used a currency converter to see what 320 euro do in australian dollars.
The 320 euro is the price europeaan pay for the GT3RS v2 with CSP.

Now the converter tells me 320.00 EUR = 450.165 AUD.
What I did was looking up the shipping rates from germany to australia.
They roughly start at 226 aus dollars. The cheapest I could find.

Add that together is 675 aus dollars give or take.
Now the company needs to make a profit out of it so 700 aus dollars aint to bad.
Logitech probably has factory there so they wont pay for shipping.
That would reduce the price drastically

 

[waggles]

We do pay a VAT, it's called GST though.

(goods/services tax)

 

[Ustasa]

We do pay a VAT, it's called GST though.

(goods/services tax)

Yes we do 10% which would if we paid it would make it a similar price to the U.S. .

Which from what I have read the U.S. is also 10% .

 

[k1lo5]

Everything is overpriced in Australia...

Our AUD is doing so well, yet were not rewarded for it...

Sux to be us, lol

 

[DK-Matty]

Very overpriced IMO..

If I where to get the perfect fanatec setup, wheel/peddals/gear stick/wheel stand

Im looking at $1000 AUD! Complete crazy!

 

[Ustasa]

Everything is overpriced in Australia...

Our AUD is doing so well, yet were not rewarded for it...

Sux to be us, lol

It would be nice just to get a fair go

Hopefully Thomas will do something about this it would be nice to get his input as he does frequent this forum ?

Very overpriced IMO..

If I where to get the perfect fanatec setup, wheel/peddals/gear stick/wheel stand

Im looking at $1000 AUD! Complete crazy!

It is completely crazy .

 

[[HR]Niels]

Well I see you all talk about no tax. Well in europe we do and in europe is were Fanatec is based. So the price youll get is with the tax. Because we must pay tax in europe. DOnt know the exact rate in germany but in holland producttax is 19%. But you do pay it.

 

[Ustasa]

Well I see you all talk about no tax. Well in europe we do and in europe is were Fanatec is based. So the price youll get is with the tax. Because we must pay tax in europe. DOnt know the exact rate in germany but in holland producttax is 19%. But you do pay it.

America does not pay European tax for their wheels and Fanatec wheels are manufactured in China which are then shipped to Germany and America .

So I think it is not fair to pay this tax as America does not pay European tax so Australia should not pay European tax .

Regards Paul

 

[Raitziger]

How much is customs fee from china to Australia?

 

[Ustasa]

How much is customs fee from china to Australia?

I bought a Popcorn Hour C200 (an American owned company) recently and I paid no customs fee direct from China to my door .

Shipping for this item was $49 Australian Dollars which weighed 4 kilograms
(I realize the GT3 RS CS would weigh more it is just an example)

Regards Paul

 

[[HR]Niels]

America does not pay European tax for their wheels and Fanatec wheels are manufactured in China which are then shipped to Germany and America .

So I think it is not fair to pay this tax as America does not pay European tax so Australia should not pay European tax .

Regards Paul

Even them pay the tax. The price they see is with tax charged in germany. If its fair or not. I dont like paying that much tax either but thast how it is. And you dont wanna mesh with tax people

 

[Sphinx]

Well I see you all talk about no tax. Well in europe we do and in europe is were Fanatec is based. So the price youll get is with the tax.

No. Exports are exempt from VAT in Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Value-added_tax

 

[cicohipe]

The clubsport stuff seems really overpriced and hard to find. However i just ordered a 911 turbo wheel (not the s) for $260 which seems really cheap when you consider a g27 in aus is about $400. I got mine from IJK however PCCG also have some instock but they are charging $300.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=284_952&products_id=13466

 

[AlPh4Kil1]

Yes they are Overpriced in Australia! in the Fanatec webstore (USA) the GT3 RS clubsport pack was $319. If You convert it, it would be around $400 and plus a bit extra. But the Place i plan to buy the wheel from, Pagnian Imports, sell it for $649! even the plain GT3 RS wheel by itself is $179.95 US. Convert it, around $210 but then they sell the wheel for $300!!! The clubsport pedals cost $350. The G27 in Australia is around $350 and that is nearly half the price of the whole clusbport pack of the GT3 RS. Fanatec please try harder. Even some stores won't get all the fanatec gear due to demand.

 

[Scottozy]

Thanks

U.S pricing in U.S. dollars $319 in Euro pricing converted to U.S. dollars $412 for CS pack

Europe pays more because of the huge VAT tax as Claudia Faltermeier of Fanatec has told me ! .

Australia does not pay these huge VAT taxes ! I have purchased a U.S. owned Sayabas product manufactured in China that was posted from China to my front door with absolutely no tax fee's we do not pay taxes for products below $1000 !

Look at Australia's pricing and you will see how really far apart to U.S./Canadian and European pricing Australia is we pay (for the version 1 model) $700+ and then have to also pay for it to get posted to the door , (Australia does not pay a VAT tax) it is the Australian distributor that is inflating the pricing to such ridiculous levels and it is Fanatecs lack of finding a decent Australian distributor to look after Australian customers that is doing this which it is Fanatecs responsibility to standardize pricing in Australia as it has been Fanatecs responsibility to standardize pricing in the U.S/Canada and Europe ! (we pay $299 just for the wheel itself I think it is called pure without postage/and we also pay $329 just for the clubsport pedals without postage/you guys pay $319 U.S. and 319 Euro for the complete CS pack we pay $700+ without postage , even more for the Turbo S which is $800+ without postage)

Try turning the tables so Fanatec does not standardize the U.S./Canadian and European prices so as to let some dodgy distributors inflate your countries pricing to what ever they want making your pricing roughly look like this with U.S./Canada pricing roughly at $450+ without postage and the European pricing roughly at $550+ without postage (which is still cheaper than the Australian $700+ without postage) and see what U.S/Canadian and European consumers would think if Australia was being charged the correct price of $350 !

Regards Paul

Hi I agree about the tax info you mentioned. And you are correct re GST in Australia. And the import duty.
I had written about the difference in price here in Australia. Same thing if buying buttkicker products here from http://pagnianimports.com.au/

Here is reply I got and I quote author of email.
"
Why are ButtKicker's cheaper in the USA?

We are fully aware that the ButtKicker range appears to be cheaper in the USA. However, here are a few things to consider...

· The shipping cost adds a significant amount to the final price.

· Then, once the items have reached Australia, Customs & Excise will charge duty and VAT which, combined, is a huge amount in relation to the initial cost of the goods. (This is often the hidden cost that most people only find out about only when the item arrives in their country)

· On top of the above, you will then incur both carriage and handling charges to get the item from the dock/airport to your mainland destination.

Please also be aware of the following:

Due to the technical specification differences, any ButtKicker product purchased from the US will have no warranty if used outside the US. So, if the unit should develop a fault, your countries distributor will not support any claims. It is also unlikely that the shop from which you purchased the item (in the USA) will offer you any support, as your ButtKicker would have been used outside of the 120v zone and therefore voiding any warranty that you may have otherwise had.

Regards,

Andrew Luden". End quote.
I then did some research and I found http://pagnianimports.com.au/
Are not currently registered to charge GST in Australia (last check October 2013) and so can not legal charge a customer GST.
If you have bought items from them and been charged GST, 10%, then you should be asking why.

 

[bumer]

This is how Thomas answered to someone on their Facebook page:

The US store does not include the sales tax you have to pay in Australia. It will never be possible to match the same price. Unfortunately we also have higher logistics and adminisration costs in Australia.