Ariel Atom 500
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I appreciate the amazing engineering effort that's gone in to the engine, but 500bhp + 245 section tyres? Sounds like it will be a wheelspinning nightmare unless it has traction control.
Ultimately, I don't see the point of it other than as a publicity exercise. It will be super-quick in a straight line, and it will be quicker than normal road cars on a track, but if you want ultimate track day pace you go buy a Radical and get a proper track car.
On a normal track day it will be too quick... you'll just end up sat behind slower cars all the time. And on the superfast track days for Radicals etc, I doubt it will be fast enough through the corners.
Plus it looks hiddeous... the wings look like they have just been stuck on by a one armed blind man.
Ultimately, I don't see the point of it other than as a publicity exercise. It will be super-quick in a straight line, and it will be quicker than normal road cars on a track, but if you want ultimate track day pace you go buy a Radical and get a proper track car.
On a normal track day it will be too quick... you'll just end up sat behind slower cars all the time. And on the superfast track days for Radicals etc, I doubt it will be fast enough through the corners.
Plus it looks hiddeous... the wings look like they have just been stuck on by a one armed blind man.
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-> I would think that wheelspin won't be an issue for the Atom 500. Why? How big is the V8? 5.0? 4.6? 4.0? Nope, this engine will range between 2.5-3.0L V8. A small-displacement V8 on that which means that this V8 that will have less torque in the low-end compared to its big V8 cousins (on which predominantly have big low-end grunt). 
-> I'm no engineer per say, but this V8 will be a high-revving type (ie. M3 w/o the size) compared to a musclecar-like lazy type (ie. Mustang 5.0).
-> Have you guys ever heard this V8? This particular engine that will power the Atom 500 will be made by Hartley Enterprises (an engine based on twin 'Busa engines):
Hartley 2.6L V8 Dyno 376hp/10,500rpm
-> I'm no engineer per say, but this V8 will be a high-revving type (ie. M3 w/o the size) compared to a musclecar-like lazy type (ie. Mustang 5.0).
-> Have you guys ever heard this V8? This particular engine that will power the Atom 500 will be made by Hartley Enterprises (an engine based on twin 'Busa engines):
Hartley 2.6L V8 Dyno 376hp/10,500rpm
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Ariel Aton V8 Road Test First Drive
What is it?
It’s the fastest road car I’ve ever driven. Come to think of it, it’s pretty much the fastest-accelerating production car anybody’s ever driven.
It’s the Ariel Atom V8 which, in place of a Honda-sourced VTEC engine at its back gets, as its name suggests, a V8 motor; of 3.0-litres. The engine started life a few years ago in the States with Suzuki bike internals but has been developed to the extent that it now wears Ariel branding.
It develops, oh you know, just the 475bhp in road trim, as tested here (500bhp in racing form). Even this trim has a good 175bhp more than the supercharged Atom – which I already thought was about as fast as you’d want one of these cars to go.
The Atom V8’s kerbweight is 550kg, so all done it makes 864bhp per tonne. For the record, an F3 car has about half that; a typical superbike will make over 700; a GP2 car will sneak over 900.
And a Bugatti Veyron? Previously the fastest-accelerating road car I’d driven, it has a mere 525 or so.
You’ll notice some serious aerodynamic addenda on the Atom V8, and carbon sidepods, one which houses the oil cooler, the other the air reservoir for the pneumatic gearshift. Yep, a pneumatically operated gearbox as you’d usually find on a Super 2000 rally car; it’s said to push upshifts through, clutchless, in somewhere between 20 and 50 milliseconds.
So the Atom is going to be terrifying, right? Not according to the blokes at Ariel, who say they’ve made it perfectly driveable. We’ll see.
What’s it like?
Absurd, of course; but, quite seriously, the V8 is as tame and docile as Ariel claims – should you want it to be.
It idles a touch lumpily, but throttle response is manageable. The low speed ride was also a touch grumbly on our test version but the engine pulls cleanly at all revs. You do this for a while – at least, I did – because you want to get used to it; you want to feel comfortable before you unleash the full 800-plus bhp per tonne.
You need the clutch to pull away but, thereafter, so long as you’ve got around 10 per cent of throttle applied, you can leave the left pedal alone and pull through a super-fast, super-smooth upshift via the diddy, carbonfibre paddles behind the gearlever.
And when you do give the Atom V8 the beans? Really, there’s nothing else quite like it. It’s a cliché to say a car is ‘superbike fast’ – even for very quick road cars like a Murciélago or the Atom 300. Bikes weigh so little they’ll also have an acceleration advantage. Except here; the Atom is a car that will show even a proper bike its tailpipes, not just in braking or cornering, but in straight-line acceleration, too.
Ariel hopes the Atom V8 will reach 0-60mph in comfortably under 2.5sec and 100mph in 5.4; and I believe it. First gear runs to over 60mph and upshifts are just stupendously fast – there’s no noticeable let-up in torque to the wheels; you’d swear it was a twin-clutch gearbox if you didn’t know better. The noise (it has a flat-plane crank) is electrifying, too. Gearing has recently been changed to make the top speed 170mph, at which point the V8 will run on its limiter.
I drove the Atom V8 on Millbrook’s hill course, which is a superb closed circuit and pretty representative of a British B-road.
We haven’t had the chance to throw the Atom V8 down a very long straight yet, but we will. By gum, we will.
Even around the hill route, though, the Atom puts down a whole new set of parameters of what I thought a road car could do. You can only use full throttle for the odd burst – a few seconds here, half a second there, but it flings itself out of corners at a pace I didn’t think was imaginable.
Traction is very strong. At the moment it’s set up to understeer until the front tyres are warmed through – and on a skippy road surface, stopping frequently for pictures and video, the fronts never get truly hot. The rears do, because with every run to 10,500rpm (where it makes peak power) they’re converting 475bhp into forward motion.
Suspension geometry is largely unchanged from the Atom 300 (though you’ll note aerofoil-section wishbones). Springs and dampers are multi-stage and multi-way adjustable; firmer here than on the 300. Ariel says the 300 is a road car that’s good on a track. The V8 is a track-biased car that’s pretty handy on the road.
Around the hill route, then, it’s agile, nimble, with lovely unassisted steering and a limit that’s governed predominantly by the front end and the fact that the suspension is a little firm for bumpier Tarmac. On an extended run on a track you could warm through the front tyres and exploit the adjustability.
As it is now, you run to where the front grip runs out, then get back on the power to straighten the line; and get blown away, yet again, by the performance.
The good thing, though – the really great thing – is that after a few minutes the performance of the Atom V8 starts to become approachable.
To say you get used to it isn’t quite right – every burst of full-throttle acceleration is an absolute sensory buzz – but you learn to appreciate that it’s there. You just think yourself 500m down the road; as soon as one corner is done, you’re on to the next one. The intimidation disappears. It’s not nearly as scary as you might think it’s going to be.
Should I buy one?
Yes. Yes, absolutely by crikey yes. There will only be 25 of them, 21 as I write are sold and, yes, I know, £150,000 is a lot of money for a car with no windows, but there might never be anything else quite like the Atom V8. And Ariels do hold their value very well.
Ariel wanted to bring this car to market at £100,000, but that it has ended up 50 per cent more expensive is not because it’s being greedy. The finish is exquisite; and the cost of development and the parts must be frightening. The gearbox alone (without the shift mechanism) costs the best part of £15,000.
But the real reason those remaining four deserve to be snapped up immediately is not because they’re rare or beautifully finished. It’s because the driving experience is utterly, utterly addictive. As I write, I gave the keys back just three hours ago, but I’d walk the length of the country for another drive of one.
I was worried the V8 would be an Ariel too far – too fast, to firebreathing, too monstrous and borderline un-driveable. Whisper it, but Ariel thought it might be too; a car just to keep the lunatics satisfied. But it isn’t; the Ariel blokes don’t know how to make a bad car. The V8 is brilliant to its core.
As soon as the opportunity arises, we’ll put the Atom V8 through a full Autocar road test. Expect fireworks.
Lots of photos here and here
Ariel Aton V8 Road Test First Drive
What is it?
It’s the fastest road car I’ve ever driven. Come to think of it, it’s pretty much the fastest-accelerating production car anybody’s ever driven.
It’s the Ariel Atom V8 which, in place of a Honda-sourced VTEC engine at its back gets, as its name suggests, a V8 motor; of 3.0-litres. The engine started life a few years ago in the States with Suzuki bike internals but has been developed to the extent that it now wears Ariel branding.
It develops, oh you know, just the 475bhp in road trim, as tested here (500bhp in racing form). Even this trim has a good 175bhp more than the supercharged Atom – which I already thought was about as fast as you’d want one of these cars to go.
The Atom V8’s kerbweight is 550kg, so all done it makes 864bhp per tonne. For the record, an F3 car has about half that; a typical superbike will make over 700; a GP2 car will sneak over 900.
And a Bugatti Veyron? Previously the fastest-accelerating road car I’d driven, it has a mere 525 or so.
You’ll notice some serious aerodynamic addenda on the Atom V8, and carbon sidepods, one which houses the oil cooler, the other the air reservoir for the pneumatic gearshift. Yep, a pneumatically operated gearbox as you’d usually find on a Super 2000 rally car; it’s said to push upshifts through, clutchless, in somewhere between 20 and 50 milliseconds.
So the Atom is going to be terrifying, right? Not according to the blokes at Ariel, who say they’ve made it perfectly driveable. We’ll see.
What’s it like?
Absurd, of course; but, quite seriously, the V8 is as tame and docile as Ariel claims – should you want it to be.
It idles a touch lumpily, but throttle response is manageable. The low speed ride was also a touch grumbly on our test version but the engine pulls cleanly at all revs. You do this for a while – at least, I did – because you want to get used to it; you want to feel comfortable before you unleash the full 800-plus bhp per tonne.
You need the clutch to pull away but, thereafter, so long as you’ve got around 10 per cent of throttle applied, you can leave the left pedal alone and pull through a super-fast, super-smooth upshift via the diddy, carbonfibre paddles behind the gearlever.
And when you do give the Atom V8 the beans? Really, there’s nothing else quite like it. It’s a cliché to say a car is ‘superbike fast’ – even for very quick road cars like a Murciélago or the Atom 300. Bikes weigh so little they’ll also have an acceleration advantage. Except here; the Atom is a car that will show even a proper bike its tailpipes, not just in braking or cornering, but in straight-line acceleration, too.
Ariel hopes the Atom V8 will reach 0-60mph in comfortably under 2.5sec and 100mph in 5.4; and I believe it. First gear runs to over 60mph and upshifts are just stupendously fast – there’s no noticeable let-up in torque to the wheels; you’d swear it was a twin-clutch gearbox if you didn’t know better. The noise (it has a flat-plane crank) is electrifying, too. Gearing has recently been changed to make the top speed 170mph, at which point the V8 will run on its limiter.
I drove the Atom V8 on Millbrook’s hill course, which is a superb closed circuit and pretty representative of a British B-road.
We haven’t had the chance to throw the Atom V8 down a very long straight yet, but we will. By gum, we will.
Even around the hill route, though, the Atom puts down a whole new set of parameters of what I thought a road car could do. You can only use full throttle for the odd burst – a few seconds here, half a second there, but it flings itself out of corners at a pace I didn’t think was imaginable.
Traction is very strong. At the moment it’s set up to understeer until the front tyres are warmed through – and on a skippy road surface, stopping frequently for pictures and video, the fronts never get truly hot. The rears do, because with every run to 10,500rpm (where it makes peak power) they’re converting 475bhp into forward motion.
Suspension geometry is largely unchanged from the Atom 300 (though you’ll note aerofoil-section wishbones). Springs and dampers are multi-stage and multi-way adjustable; firmer here than on the 300. Ariel says the 300 is a road car that’s good on a track. The V8 is a track-biased car that’s pretty handy on the road.
Around the hill route, then, it’s agile, nimble, with lovely unassisted steering and a limit that’s governed predominantly by the front end and the fact that the suspension is a little firm for bumpier Tarmac. On an extended run on a track you could warm through the front tyres and exploit the adjustability.
As it is now, you run to where the front grip runs out, then get back on the power to straighten the line; and get blown away, yet again, by the performance.
The good thing, though – the really great thing – is that after a few minutes the performance of the Atom V8 starts to become approachable.
To say you get used to it isn’t quite right – every burst of full-throttle acceleration is an absolute sensory buzz – but you learn to appreciate that it’s there. You just think yourself 500m down the road; as soon as one corner is done, you’re on to the next one. The intimidation disappears. It’s not nearly as scary as you might think it’s going to be.
Should I buy one?
Yes. Yes, absolutely by crikey yes. There will only be 25 of them, 21 as I write are sold and, yes, I know, £150,000 is a lot of money for a car with no windows, but there might never be anything else quite like the Atom V8. And Ariels do hold their value very well.
Ariel wanted to bring this car to market at £100,000, but that it has ended up 50 per cent more expensive is not because it’s being greedy. The finish is exquisite; and the cost of development and the parts must be frightening. The gearbox alone (without the shift mechanism) costs the best part of £15,000.
But the real reason those remaining four deserve to be snapped up immediately is not because they’re rare or beautifully finished. It’s because the driving experience is utterly, utterly addictive. As I write, I gave the keys back just three hours ago, but I’d walk the length of the country for another drive of one.
I was worried the V8 would be an Ariel too far – too fast, to firebreathing, too monstrous and borderline un-driveable. Whisper it, but Ariel thought it might be too; a car just to keep the lunatics satisfied. But it isn’t; the Ariel blokes don’t know how to make a bad car. The V8 is brilliant to its core.
As soon as the opportunity arises, we’ll put the Atom V8 through a full Autocar road test. Expect fireworks.
Lots of photos here and here
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Thanks for the posts here, was waiting for this, so they are out now!
Still dream of it, but the price tag just went a bit over for me.
After driving some more powerful cars in reality I think I'll stick to an Atom 300 if I get the chance.
Still dream of it, but the price tag just went a bit over for me.
After driving some more powerful cars in reality I think I'll stick to an Atom 300 if I get the chance.
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Okay, we can call it a Superbike, now. or at least a "faired" Buell.
But, seriously, how come we heard nothing of this car for two years?
But, seriously, how come we heard nothing of this car for two years?
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Been reading the dpcars.net blog for years... and he mentions the Hartley V8 and its development from time to time. His Atom was, apparently, either one of the test mules or the test-mule.
Not if it's a Simpson Bandit.
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Like I said in the chat yesterday, car has so much power/weight it's going to implode on itself causing a black hole which will swallow the universe. That's a win!
That's a win!
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90 Kg in a 500 Kg car is nearly 20% of the mass. As a relative mass that is significant.
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um...
why are these old Ariel threads being dug up again?
why are these old Ariel threads being dug up again?
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ahh man a v8 boooo
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