Asia-Pacific $10M+ Classics

[iCyCo]

We currently have cars from the Americas and Europe from the likes of Ford, Ferrari, Aston Martin etc with values beyond of $10M. Currently there's none from the Asia-Pacific region.

One that comes to mind for me which might possibly command those figures in PD's world is the Toyota 2000GT based on some of the real world amounts it has sold for but that's already in game already. So that leaves the unicorn model, the convertible from the James Bond movie.

Are they any cars from the Asia-Pacific region you guys feel could command the $10M+ price tag?

This is not a discussion on adding more unobtainable cars as there are plenty threads on that already.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I'd thought the Toyota 7 might return at a high price.

It's a fair observation anyway... This article has some interesting stats:
https://newatlas.com/20-most-valuable-japanese-cars-auction/56901/

 

[Famine]

Aside from the 2000GT probably the most valuable Japanese classics in the real world right now are the Mazda Cosmo '67 and the Nissan Skyline GT-R '69. Neither's running into seven figures though, much less eight.

If there's going to be a high-value Japanese car it'll be newer like the Lexus LF A, or a race car like the Toyota 7. Or both, with the Mazda Furai if that ever resurfaces.

 

[O604]

I'm going to cheat.

 

[iCyCo]

I'd thought the Toyota 7 might return at a high price.

It's a fair observation anyway... This article has some interesting stats:
https://newatlas.com/20-most-valuable-japanese-cars-auction/56901/

Interesting read.

Had no idea LFAs were going at that price already.

Another car that came to mind seeing that list is the Toyota GT one road car

 

[VincentVendetta]

I'd like to see a Nissan R380-II but I don't think it would reach 10,000,000 credits.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Another car that came to mind seeing that list is the Toyota GT one road car

I'd go with that, though I think adding the road car without adding the race car in Gr.1 might anger people.

 

[iCyCo]

Aside from the 2000GT probably the most valuable Japanese classics in the real world right now are the Mazda Cosmo '67 and the Nissan Skyline GT-R '69. Neither's running into seven figures though, much less eight.

If there's going to be a high-value Japanese car it'll be newer like the Lexus LF A, or a race car like the Toyota 7. Or both, with the Mazda Furai if that ever resurfaces.

I'm always amazed Mazda didn't even try to fake another one.

 

[Torneo]

A classic Honda F1 car such as the RA272 or RA300 could cost that much.

 

[Pigems]

Toyota GT1?

 

[O604]

Don't know how much it costs. But a Century is about $200,000.

This is a Century GRMN.

 

[iCyCo]

A classic Honda F1 car such as the RA272 or RA300 could cost that much.

Could definitely see this costing that much

@Pigems

Toyota GT1

That'll be strange having the actual Leman winning Mazda in the game costing $1M and added the GTOne for more.

 

[Satomiblood]

Given PD's current relationship with Toyota, I think we’ll end up seeing the 7 race car.

 

[05XR8]

Could definitely see this costing that much

@Pigems

That'll be strange having the actual Leman winning Mazda in the game costing $1M and added the GTOne for more.

Plus, I believe the one that won Le Mans sold for 1.7mil.

 

[SUPRASTAR0003]

I believe this is Cr. 250,000 but I can’t see it being priced 10m credits.

 

[AllMightyVTEC]

Don't know how much it costs. But a Century is about $200,000.

This is a Century GRMN.

Only in Japan could you find a sports-tuned luxury limo from the factory

 

[Volksauto]

Definitely the 1965-1968 Prince R380 or the Prince/Nissan R380 II which is featured in Forza 7. Underappreciated racing machines shadowed by the Nissan R390's fame

I know for a fact it would at least be 15,000,000cr. in GT Sport and I'd buy it!

 

[O604]

Only in Japan could you find a sports-tuned luxury limo from the factory

For that rare occasion when the Emperor has to escape Bond villains on the Nurburgring.

 

[tankuroded]

Could definitely see this costing that much

@Pigems

That'll be strange having the actual Leman winning Mazda in the game costing $1M and added the GTOne for more.

Also since the GT-One will be most likely a Gr.1 car and all Gr. race car prices are standarized...

 

[Quakebass]

There aren’t a lot of vintage Japanese cars I can think of that follow similar criteria to the current crop of other high-value cars in the game. A large portion of them (Toyota 7 or GT1, Mazda Furai, Nissan R390) would probably get pushed into Gr. 1 and get adjusted to the class.

Maybe an older F1 or GP car could hike up for that high, but I think in general there just aren’t nearly as many old, rare, AND successful cars from Asia as there are from Europe or the Americas.

 

[McLaren]

Cars like the GT-One and R390 are probably not close. Unfortunately, I think the fact Toyota & Nissan keep them close to heart affects them. If a 1 of 3 767B with actual Le Mans history and ties to the monumental 787B only fetch under $2 million, I'd say on a great day, $5 million tops for the GT-One and R390 based solely on super rarity. There's just not much known about them to the general automotive world and neither car spends a lot of time in the public eye. That unfortunately, detracts from value rather than adding because collectors usually want cars with a lot of info, achievement, & significance to the automotive world. Neither car sadly offers much b/c the cars were just never exposed to the world & all collectors would get prior to sale is whatever basic info is out there and the car should be completely up to date on its mechanics. The R390 for example, didn't make landfall in the US for 20 years until Monterey's Reunion honored Nissan last year as the first Japanese marque to be featured, although it has made a couple more appearances this year courtesy of Peterson & Amelia Island.

$10 million being the target number, I can only see the Prince, Honda RA272, or 787B getting really close if you've got the perfect storm of buyers on hand.

 

[05XR8]

I knew of this car 1967 Daihatsu P5. With its history, PD could probably get away with putting a 10mil Cr. on it. Especially how ultra rare it is. I'd say it'd be similar to how the Alfa TZ2 is up there in price.

 

[iCyCo]

Definitely the 1965-1968 Prince R380 or the Prince/Nissan R380 II which is featured in Forza 7. Underappreciated racing machines shadowed by the Nissan R390's fame

I know for a fact it would at least be 15,000,000cr. in GT Sport and I'd buy it!

Certainly looks the part.

And has some success to its name

Due to the cancellation of the Japanese Grand Prix in 1965, the R380 would be used by Prince to test high speed aerodynamics. This led to the car being used to break five E-class land speed records in late 1965.

For the 1966 Japanese Grand Prix at Fuji Speedway, Prince would enter four R380s, while a trio of newer Porsche 906s would also be entered. In the end, the R380s would take the overall victory, with Yoshikazu Sunako's R380 ahead of Hideo Oishi's second place R380.

Following the rebuilding of the R380s by Nissan, four cars were once again entered in the Japanese Grand Prix. However, the 906s would be able to overcome the previous year's loss, leaving the R380-IIs to settle for second, third, fourth, and sixth. The margin of victory was nearly two minutes. Nissan would later use an R380-II to set new land speed records, breaking seven records in October of that year.

I knew of this car 1967 Daihatsu P5. With its history, PD could probably get away with putting a 10mil Cr. on it. Especially how ultra rare it is. I'd say it'd be similar to how the Alfa TZ2 is up there in price.

Didn't even knew this existed.

Daihatsu had been an engine maker first, before delving into the carmaking business, and knew how to build a motor. Despite its small size and origins as a Daihatsu Compagno one-liter, the inline-four sported twin overhead cams, four valves per cylinder, dual Mikuni 50 PHH carbs, and generated an astonishing 140 horsepower — an amazing 108 horsepower per liter. It is said that the top speed was an impressive 150 mph, and that the redline was 10,000 rpm

Would love to hear that engine revving to that 10,000rpms

With the above mentioned Daihatsu P5 and then noticing Daihatsu sponsorship on the Toyota 7, I'm assuming it was a technical partnership. Yamaha designed the chassis and Toyota the engine, what could have Daihatsu helped on?

 

[talhaONE]

Pd please.

 

[Torneo]

There's also the Honda R800 and R1300.

 

[05XR8]

Certainly looks the part.

And has some success to its name




Didn't even knew this existed.


Would love to hear that engine revving to that 10,000rpms

With the above mentioned Daihatsu P5 and then noticing Daihatsu sponsorship on the Toyota 7, I'm assuming it was a technical partnership. Yamaha designed the chassis and Toyota the engine, what could have Daihatsu helped on?

Good question. I'm not going to guess.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Perhaps...

... wouldn't warrant the price tag for any other reason than it's a bit of a Gran Turismo icon.

 

[Torneo]

With the above mentioned Daihatsu P5 and then noticing Daihatsu sponsorship on the Toyota 7, I'm assuming it was a technical partnership. Yamaha designed the chassis and Toyota the engine, what could have Daihatsu helped on?

Apparently they used Daihatsu's wind tunnel facilities and Daihatsu also helped developing the 5.0-litre turbocharged engine.

 

[iCyCo]

The predecessor to the Daihatsu P5, the P3.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Very interesting thread and some really interesting answers here 👍

Looking at the cars that are 10M+ in the game though, it seems the only way to get that price is if you're a classic Le Mans car or a Pebble Beach winner. And unless you live in an alternate reality, option 1 is already not possible. So our best bet is someone entering the Honda RA272/300 at Pebble and Kaz selects it as the winner

As for my nomination I'm gonna go back in time even further and present the Mitsubishi Model A. Possibly the first mass produced Japanese car ever.