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50 minutes in on interview no talk of consoles, no selling the console experience or game play footage
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The 30fps thing isn't the end of the world. The real problem is that neither company have the slightest bit of interest.
They announced the game going to console and then radio silence, not a single screenshot, clip, interview, nothing.
A week before release they they held a preview event for the game, in which they didn't show the game! they barely even talked about it, in the few minutes they did the developer struggled to say anything remotely positive about it.
I'm not his biggest fan by a long shot, but compare to Ian Bell / SMS, with PCars he started from nothing, went up against the big boys and created some interest, engaged sim fans, generated a following and actually showed a bit of passion and look at the PCars series now - he's created something of value.
If the developer and publisher have no interest in the game, why should I ? The whole thing from start to finish has been dire.
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Well... it's sure that minimum 60fps nowadays is an must for sim games
But 30 can be difined as "acceptable" if it's rock solid
Sure I expected 60fps, but seeing other UE4 engine games on ps4 that goes at 30fps and with less demanding phisycs it was reasonably to think that at least on base ps4 ACC gonna run at 30 FPS.
I also think that they opted to keep 30fps on PS4 Pro mostly to don't give those users advantage online maining the game at 60fps
The video above shows perfectly the advantage of playing same game in 60 fps against 30fps
But 30 can be difined as "acceptable" if it's rock solid
Sure I expected 60fps, but seeing other UE4 engine games on ps4 that goes at 30fps and with less demanding phisycs it was reasonably to think that at least on base ps4 ACC gonna run at 30 FPS.
I also think that they opted to keep 30fps on PS4 Pro mostly to don't give those users advantage online maining the game at 60fps
The video above shows perfectly the advantage of playing same game in 60 fps against 30fps
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more footage, extended replay but rest we've already seen.
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No, they said yesterday all consoles are 30fps.
The changes are stuff like better draw distance.
The changes are stuff like better draw distance.
Come on guys, you cannot write something like this.
Try to play Drive Club (as much smooth as it will look like), and immediately after play one hour of Gran Turismo Sport (or Forza 7), and then put Drive Club back on, and it will look you are driving in the jelly, or will be very choppy.
Same, try playing WRC 8 (it may look like smooth), then immediately after Dirt Rally 2, and then immediately after WRC8 again, and you will see how choppy will result.
Same, try playing Destiny 2 (it may look like smooth), then immediately after COD Modern Warfare, and then immediately after Destiny 2 again, and you will feel playing in slow motion.
By the way, all 4K TVs launched after 2013 (so, ALL 4K TVs I suppose) are provided with HDMI 2.0, which is capable to deliver 4K@60fps.
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Nah, the game is very powerful for current consoles, or at least for the Jaguar CPU.
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That footage from behind the car really doesn't do the game any justice. They should have recorded someone using a steering wheel and from inside the cockpit. Maybe on a track with a damp surface.
The video here looks miles away from how it actually feels to play the game as a simulator.
The video here looks miles away from how it actually feels to play the game as a simulator.
I'm pretty sure he knows the difference between 30 and 60. He said he has no issues switching between them. That's not going against any fact.
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The other games didn't have the Physics and other stuff (AI with the same physics of the player) that ACC has.
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However, this is consoile we're talking about. Forza and GT players that have not tried AC1 and the Project Cars games, this will be their introduction to a game normally reserved for pc players. I don't have a gaming pc. I haven't tried Project Cars or AC on a pc. I do have both games on PS4 and XB1(PC2). If this is more of the same in terms of graphics, frame rate and controller use(Kunos say it's improved), I'm used to it. Someone new to this game, they shouldn't expect GT graphics. The main selling point, will be the realistic handling.
Honestly, anyone wanting hardcore simularion, will buy a pc for this. As for players like GT Academy, FIA GT Sport finalists, I'd be interested to read their unbiased view points, if they were to try this game. I believe someone posted about Super GT trying it(?).
Edit: Just raced this. Normal PS4, DS4. Is this the same as the demo videos? I'm dead serious. It's not 16 bit graphics. I'm amazed games look like this today. It's good enough to me.
The video explaining the FPS is cool. I can see the smoothness in gameplay. I'd like to play all games like that. Right now, I don't have a 4K tv(yet) and I'm waiting for the PS5. If GT7 will be 60FPS, I'm good. If ACC stays at 30FPS, I'm good with that too. I'm happy the game is dedicated to real GT3 and GT4 cars. That's what has sold me.
If, when I get ACC, the gameplay doesn't stack up. As in, I'm not enjoying the whole experience, that'll be my main criticism.
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Yeah, I'm with you on that. Can't stand playing at 30fps (maybe with the exception of certain types of games).
I think it was inevitable though that the console version would have 30fps. The real problem here seems to be the Unreal Engine. It's clear that Kunos isn't happy with the performance of it, especially for VR. They are evaluating whether or not to use it for their next project (whatever that may be). This all comes from Marco in one of his interviews.
Even on PC I am struggling to get over 60fps with 20 AI cars on track (although to be fair that's triple screen 5760x1080), and my PC is no slouch. So you can imagine the challenge to get old hw like the PS4 to cope with that. Sorry to see that you have to settle for 30fps for consoles, but...it is what it is.
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Just my opinion but for me I’m yet to see anything on current gen consoles that was developed on Unreal Engine that actually runs completely smooth and without noticeable choppy framerates, regardless of the game or whether it’s running in 30fps or not.
I think it’s pretty clear the whole surprise of releasing ACC for current gen consoles is nothing more than a last minute cash grab before the next gen consoles launch. I don’t know whose idea it was but clearly they have little faith in this hence why there’s alarmingly been no footage or screenshots of how the game runs on console until now.
For me I think I’ll wait and see if we get a PS5/XboxSX release (or even a patch for the game later down the line that brings the performance up) and then it might be worth the purchase.
I think it’s pretty clear the whole surprise of releasing ACC for current gen consoles is nothing more than a last minute cash grab before the next gen consoles launch. I don’t know whose idea it was but clearly they have little faith in this hence why there’s alarmingly been no footage or screenshots of how the game runs on console until now.
For me I think I’ll wait and see if we get a PS5/XboxSX release (or even a patch for the game later down the line that brings the performance up) and then it might be worth the purchase.
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Have you nitwits ever heard of "v-sync" before? smh
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Kunos is extremely dedicated. I’m sorry they didn’t come out with fireworks and balloons for the console release.
Ian Bell will never be this dedicated...
https://m.youtube.com/user/Aristotelis321/videos
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At the end of the day even after the car crash preview event that had no preview my Pre order is still happening. I don't have the money for an all singing all dancing pc so will still buy ACC on PS4, for £35 with dlc i'm willing to give it a go and see how it goes and see if it gets patched if needed.
I have read all 5 pages of posts with all the negativity but that has not changed my mind, i want to try it for myself instead of complaining about something before it's even here. Yes it could be a car crash release like the preview event but on the other hand it could be good too, 30fps is not the best compared to other driving games @ 60fps but this is the only way i can play ACC so i'm in and let the chips fall where they lay and to those who are also willing to give it a go, See you on track!
I have read all 5 pages of posts with all the negativity but that has not changed my mind, i want to try it for myself instead of complaining about something before it's even here. Yes it could be a car crash release like the preview event but on the other hand it could be good too, 30fps is not the best compared to other driving games @ 60fps but this is the only way i can play ACC so i'm in and let the chips fall where they lay and to those who are also willing to give it a go, See you on track!
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