There is a way to give feeling of rotation of these road cars but only on PC and you will not be able to race online with these cars.I had another go with a few road cars last night. Tried the different track settings, but it doesn't change the balance of the car, only the overall grip levels. For the most part, road cars just have no feeling of rotation
I had another go with a few road cars last night. Tried the different track settings, but it doesn't change the balance of the car, only the overall grip levels. For the most part, road cars just have no feeling of rotation
Plenty of open lobbies last night... unfortunately, most with 60 min practice sessions and 90 minute qualifying... for a 5 lap race
At this stage I'm not personally finding private lobbies to be useful. Previously, I could just jump from GT3 room to GT3 room, and have back to back races. Harder to find anything worth racing in now, and a lot harder to get multiple races in over a couple of hours.
GT5P -> GT5 was the same for me, and even now, GT5P is the best on line racing experience I've had. So easy to just jump on line and find a race with a full grid.
That's a real bummer. For me, the road cars are a better experience than the race cars. Even with my crappy, ready-to-go-to-heaven DFGT I get wonderful feel of the balance of the vehicle. Load transfer is communicated very well. It's so easy to recognize slip without having to hear screeching sound...but, of course the audio feedback of slipage is an enormous help too. My only other real experience is GT6, so it's the only thing I can compare AC to...I was such an awful tuner of cars. I just didn't feel very connected to the cars. At the time I thought I was... I'm still not a great tuner/setup guy, but I have become exponentially better in AC due to the connection I feel with the car.
There are certainly cars that I agree don't drive all that great...and since many street cars have very few adjustments available to them (often only tire alignment), it's not easy to dial in that perfect rotation one may be looking for. In GT6 you have the ability to make drastic changes to every single car which did help in making the cars respond the way you might want...but in my view they also all pretty much felt the same - or I should say that all cars of a certain class felt the same as each other. I think Kunos aims to make the driver adjust to the car like someone tossed you their keys to a Corvette C7 you're not going to be able to adjust alignment, dampers, wheel rate, etc..
I use the words "you" and "your" in a general sense, of course, not pointing the finger at you or anyone else...I certainly don't mean to imply this is anything more than just my general feelings.
LOL.....,I can feel the balance OK, but I don't think the balance is represented realistically... if that makes sense
Example... Lotus Elise.
IRL, I've driven a few versions of the Elise over the years and they are lovely things to drive... they feel like they are rotating round the drivers seat. Yes, they will understeer if you push the front way too hard on the way in to a corner, but get your entry speed right, load the front and rear tyres equally, and you can trim your line by just easing or increasing the amount of throttle - lift a fraction and the nose tightens, a bit more gas and the car pushes, a lot more gas and the car oversteers.
In fast corners, you have to be super careful on turn in as they will snap oversteer massively if you turn in too hard off the throttle (rear unweighted).
In AC, on street tyres, the Elise just understeers... even if you give it a massive 'bung' on entry. With the nose locked, you can just step off the gas with zero risk of the back coming round, and you can jump on the gas with zero risk of oversteer. It's as if the rotation point is positioned directly over the rear wheels, making it impossible to load the front tyres properly.
This is true for all the Elise/Exige versions I've tried so far.
They should feel more like the Porsche 718... which is just sublime.
I had another go with a few road cars last night. Tried the different track settings, but it doesn't change the balance of the car, only the overall grip levels. For the most part, road cars just have no feeling of rotation
Lol not only do i like cruising too, but last night i created a room and called it "Chill" haha. I named it that so no one who wanted a serious race would waste their time joining my room as i was just seeing if i could actually create a room.
I disagree. Dictating is telling or strongly suggesting how to do it. A mere opinion is what it is, just an opinion.
It worked for me too this morning when no one was playing the game. Now I only get the message: Could not create lobby, please try again later. The server capacity from Kunos seems to be very small. I don't think there are a lot of people still playing the game, but still on peak times it's not working.
I can feel the balance OK, but I don't think the balance is represented realistically... if that makes sense
Example... Lotus Elise.
IRL, I've driven a few versions of the Elise over the years and they are lovely things to drive... they feel like they are rotating round the drivers seat. Yes, they will understeer if you push the front way too hard on the way in to a corner, but get your entry speed right, load the front and rear tyres equally, and you can trim your line by just easing or increasing the amount of throttle - lift a fraction and the nose tightens, a bit more gas and the car pushes, a lot more gas and the car oversteers.
In fast corners, you have to be super careful on turn in as they will snap oversteer massively if you turn in too hard off the throttle (rear unweighted).
In AC, on street tyres, the Elise just understeers... even if you give it a massive 'bung' on entry. With the nose locked, you can just step off the gas with zero risk of the back coming round, and you can jump on the gas with zero risk of oversteer. It's as if the rotation point is positioned directly over the rear wheels, making it impossible to load the front tyres properly.
This is true for all the Elise/Exige versions I've tried so far.
They should feel more like the Porsche 718... which is just sublime.
Hmmm. I'm not shocked that you mention the Lotus's. They've often been the subject of debate over on the official forums. I've read various complaints about various models. For some reason, I swore I recently saw a post where people were claiming the car got much better with one of the more recent updates. If that's true, I'm surprised because the code you're driving on now is the same exact code (supposedly) that we PC users were driving on 3 days ago.I can feel the balance OK, but I don't think the balance is represented realistically... if that makes sense
Example... Lotus Elise.
IRL, I've driven a few versions of the Elise over the years and they are lovely things to drive... they feel like they are rotating round the drivers seat. Yes, they will understeer if you push the front way too hard on the way in to a corner, but get your entry speed right, load the front and rear tyres equally, and you can trim your line by just easing or increasing the amount of throttle - lift a fraction and the nose tightens, a bit more gas and the car pushes, a lot more gas and the car oversteers.
In fast corners, you have to be super careful on turn in as they will snap oversteer massively if you turn in too hard off the throttle (rear unweighted).
In AC, on street tyres, the Elise just understeers... even if you give it a massive 'bung' on entry. With the nose locked, you can just step off the gas with zero risk of the back coming round, and you can jump on the gas with zero risk of oversteer. It's as if the rotation point is positioned directly over the rear wheels, making it impossible to load the front tyres properly.
This is true for all the Elise/Exige versions I've tried so far.
They should feel more like the Porsche 718... which is just sublime.
I spin out in front-engine cars, mid-engine cars and rear-engine cars. I spin heavy, I spin light cars. You get the picture. So, I fire up AC and take the car they're talking about out for a drive and not just on cold tires...even warmed tires, I can spin out so easily. 
And I'm not talking about doing anything stupid like yanking the wheel from one side back to the other to throw the car's weight around. I'm talking about just plain old giving a bit too much gas on corner exit. Heck, 90% of my driving is with the nannies set to "Factory". So, that means Traction Control if the car has it. Cars with adjustable TC I usually try to bump the number higher to lessen the amount of TC interference. I know this isn't about crashing. I know proper rotation isn't about spinning either. Just having some fun. Did I already ask? Are there any cars that feel okay to you? Or are they all unrealistic?
