Assetto Corsa PC Mods General DiscussionPC

[protoss]

I've seen people pissed, but honestly this guy takes the cake





All that for a fiorano which reuse ferrari virtual academy assets (which shouldn't even be allowed in race department, and it may be the whole track in fact but didn't dive deeper)


Ferrari virtual academy

this guy



EDIT : You know what? with an attitude like that I'll report his track. Next time he'll learn not playing any big man when he pulls of assets like that

I downloaded one of his tracks once and it was a bit subpar. Wondered why the reviews were so high and went to check'em. Noticed his responses to 4 star reviews and, just on that, decided to never downloaded any of his tracks again. His attitude is that bad.

On the other hand, it can be fun to sometimes check his tracks to see his meltdowns when someone leaves a minor critique (even if it's within a 5 star review).

 

[kakauiyt]

If anyone with skills in 3dsimed and blender (the basic minimum) can do the step I wrote here it would help

Tracks - Circuito de Fiorano 2023

Not only you have an attitude in the review section lashing out on people who didn't do harm, but you also proudly takes copyright? When you reuse assets from Ferrari Virtual Academy??? Don't you have any shame??? The garage you use is exactly the same as ferrari virtual academy. The texture...

www.overtake.gg

 

[Lam]

Do you guys all enjoy this new witch-hunt season?

 

[Perico Lospa]

 

[Fall Guy]

@kakauiyt may I ask you something in relation to your 2010 / 2011 / 2012 mod?

All cars won´t show up the correct tyre skin when doing CSP previews.

The only solution which works is, disable the extension folder, create the preview and re-enable the extension folder afterwards. Your cars from the other eras like 2008 don´t have this issue since the tyre textures got a separate extension folder outside the cars´main folder. May I ask you for a fix for this for further updates or do I just miss something?

 

[BruceD]

If anyone with skills in 3dsimed and blender (the basic minimum) can do the step I wrote here it would help

Tracks - Circuito de Fiorano 2023

Not only you have an attitude in the review section lashing out on people who didn't do harm, but you also proudly takes copyright? When you reuse assets from Ferrari Virtual Academy??? Don't you have any shame??? The garage you use is exactly the same as ferrari virtual academy. The texture...

www.overtake.gg

BTW, export from 3dsimed as a Autodesk FBX (click on Plugin Export), using the below settings, and import in Blender that way. It assigns textures and exports all the textures into a Texture folder as well, which helps with Kseditor as well.

(In case you didn't know this already, I find it helps cut the workflow down a bit.)

 

[Vintagedriver]

I love the fact that modders are unemployed, and when they get a job it's the end of the world.

I shall tell macron not to work too hard to reduce unemployement, we still need people in the moddin community.

"Is reading THAT hard ?"
Oh they read correctly, not just with the same words, something along the line of "Hey my car is free meaning I have no money to hire an attorney to sue ur *ss if you decide to pick elements of my car that I did not encrypt for you to easily unpack"

Ofc they would refuse the collab, why should they 50-50 the credit section and make the car free when you can just put it in patreon.

People abuse the good nature of mods and pick on individuals mostly because they know they don't risk much.


It feels like encrypting is a necessity now, although i'm not a fan of this option at all (which i why i don't use it on the 2008 mod), I still understand why people would use it today

I can not post a screenshot but that lady driver would be great as a passenger in my XK120. Where can I find the original source as most lady drivers I do find on the internet are dressed like an harlequin comic book girl or as a creepy zombie from a cheap Chinese horror movie.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/datsun-2000-1968-123952847?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link&fbclid=IwY2xjawI8_NVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXAzGxJxZuLlXT842UOIXvwbDlzNN6H3sdjwtUXuarPNePvj1bnNhO9UEQ_aem_AWOE_cFfD69YMFG7zpC7cQ

 

[kakauiyt]

BTW, export from 3dsimed as a Autodesk FBX (click on Plugin Export), using the below settings, and import in Blender that way. It assigns textures and exports all the textures into a Texture folder as well, which helps with Kseditor as well.
View attachment 1435381

(In case you didn't know this already, I find it helps cut the workflow down a bit.)

Fbx exports by 3dsimed cannot be open by blender cuz fbx version too old if I recall

 

[24H]

I can not post a screenshot but that lady driver would be great as a passenger in my XK120. Where can I find the original source as most lady drivers I do find on the internet are dressed like an harlequin comic book girl or as a creepy zombie from a cheap Chinese horror movie.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/datsun-2000-1968-123952847?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link&fbclid=IwY2xjawI8_NVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXAzGxJxZuLlXT842UOIXvwbDlzNN6H3sdjwtUXuarPNePvj1bnNhO9UEQ_aem_AWOE_cFfD69YMFG7zpC7cQ

maybe try this one

https://www.patreon.com/posts/driver-mai-beta-73625063

 

[BruceD]

Fbx exports by 3dsimed cannot be open by blender cuz fbx version too old if I recall

No you have to use the top FBX option, otherwise yes that's the error it gives you.

 

[Glenn Cooke]

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to the lowest low in AC's greedy community :

https://www.patreon.com/posts/datsun-2000-1968-123952847?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link&fbclid=IwY2xjawI8_NVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXAzGxJxZuLlXT842UOIXvwbDlzNN6H3sdjwtUXuarPNePvj1bnNhO9UEQ_aem_AWOE_cFfD69YMFG7zpC7cQ

They proposed a "kind-of modified" version for us to see, we responded positive under conditions for release regarding quality for a collab, they refused to collab and now... download is through paywall ?

Like...Do I need to pay to see the modifications they did on my own model ?

it's written on the release of every model I made : "Car is free and unencrypted and shall remain as such".
Is reading THAT hard ?

The good news is : I'm busy working now, and I have the best possible job interview on Tuesday, if it works I will definitely not have time to mod anymore, so I will not care anymore. I will still try to find the time to finish the Frazer-Nash, at least, but I barely started on the Bristol, so don't expect too much...

So lads : see ya!
And remember : be kind, open-minded, leave them free and un-encrypted.

I have just followed the link you posted to the Datsun 2000 Sports 1968 Road Version. It's free, I am not a member of Patreon and I can download.

 

[MasterFocus]

@kakauiyt may I ask you something in relation to your 2010 / 2011 / 2012 mod?

All cars won´t show up the correct tyre skin when doing CSP previews.
View attachment 1435379

The only solution which works is, disable the extension folder, create the preview and re-enable the extension folder afterwards. Your cars from the other eras like 2008 don´t have this issue since the tyre textures got a separate extension folder outside the cars´main folder. May I ask you for a fix for this for further updates or do I just miss something?
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CSP preview here to report everything is OK on my side!

 

[kakauiyt]

CSP preview here to report everything is OK on my side!

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That screams lack of manual install so csp couldn't find the tyre texture ye

 

[Masscot]

Do you guys all enjoy this new witch-hunt season?

Yeah, this is all more than a little bit unsavoury. If anyone thinks somebody has broken Race Department's rules, then report it there if you really want to play policeman. It's got nothing to do with GTP.
Regardless - what crime against humanity has Luis actually committed to warrant this type of reaction in the first place? Replying abrasively (in a foreign language) to comments he disagrees with about a track he worked on and released for free?
So bloody what? There's no law about having to be nice all the time. Half of us would be in prison if that was the case.
Maybe if you're easily offended then message an RD moderator about it, or reply in the track's discussion tab on RD. Not sure why he has to be hauled over the coals here about something so trivial. It's strayed well into bullying and character assassination.
And it'd be worth triple checking facts before throwing accusations around about asset theft. As a professional track developer, there's a chance Luis actually created those assets himself in the first place. But even so, we all know the vast grey expanse that sim racing copyright arguments dwell in.
If those easily-offended pitchfork-wavers need a focus for their vitriol, then I'd suggest far more deserving candidates like those that directly copy other people's free mods, encrypt them, them stick them behind paywalls. Not somebody whose personality you happen to disagree with.

 

[Fall Guy]

That screams lack of manual install so csp couldn't find the tyre texture ye

I always install manually. 2010 / 2011 / 2012 cars I don´t have these textures.

@MasterFocus you are on CSP 2.8p1? There were some former versions where somehow this issue did not happen. Ilya changed / tweaked alot in the background reg. preview generation.

 

[kakauiyt]

Yeah, this is all more than a little bit unsavoury. If anyone thinks somebody has broken Race Department's rules, then report it there if you really want to play policeman. It's got nothing to do with GTP.
Regardless - what crime against humanity has Luis actually committed to warrant this type of reaction in the first place? Replying abrasively (in a foreign language) to comments he disagrees with about a track he worked on and released for free?
So bloody what? There's no law about having to be nice all the time. Half of us would be in prison if that was the case.
Maybe if you're easily offended then message an RD moderator about it, or reply in the track's discussion tab on RD. Not sure why he has to be hauled over the coals here about something so trivial. It's strayed well into bullying and character assassination.
And it'd be worth triple checking facts before throwing accusations around about asset theft. As a professional track developer, there's a chance Luis actually created those assets himself in the first place. But even so, we all know the vast grey expanse that sim racing copyright arguments dwell in.
If those easily-offended pitchfork-wavers need a focus for their vitriol, then I'd suggest far more deserving candidates like those that directly copy other people's free mods, encrypt them, them stick them behind paywalls. Not somebody whose personality you happen to disagree with.

I never throw an accusation like that if I didn't have absolute proof that he did use assets from Ferrari virtual academy.

The objects have the same number of faces and vertices, the same name, the same material. And if you extract the kn5, you see that a lot of textures used comes from FVA.



I know full well the vast grey area of modding allow this and I'm myself in the grey area. But there's 2 things i very much not liked about this dude.

1 His enormous ego that allows him to lash at people without justification, coming from your average end user, I find it not normal at all to treat anyone who submit a legit feature request with that level of animosity. You guys might not care about how people treat, but it takes 0 effort to be nice toward people that didn't mean harm or asked anything in bad faith.

2 And the most important point for me, more than 1 and the reason I decided to actually makes his track removed, is that he uses Ferrari Virtual Academy assets and put his copyright on it. If it was anything else i wouldn't have cared, but Ferrari Virtual Academy holds a big place in my heart, I did a big work of preservations to gather lost exe of FVA to collect them and put them on archive.org so that it would never lost. I'm doing a big work as my last project which is recreating FVA on Assetto Corsa, I've also reached people underground to find a way to use FVA back when the servers are dead. And this guy with his ego lash out on people saying "you should be a track modder before talking to me, I did everything" piss me off the most when he reuse FVA in the background. Never in my mods I decided to put a copyright. Never have I forbid people from using assets of my mods when I use assets elsewhere.

As for the bullying, forcing a resource to be removed is now bullying? I never asked anyone to harass the guy personally, just to report the resource. I find it funny that for you, the way he treats people because his track is perfect (when it's based on stolen assets) doesn't warrant any counter reaction.

There may be no law about being nice, but there's no law that prevents people for giving him the treatment he does to others.

 

[Fall Guy]

I always install manually. 2010 / 2011 / 2012 cars I don´t have these textures.

@MasterFocus you are on CSP 2.8p1? There were some former versions where somehow this issue did not happen. Ilya changed / tweaked alot in the background reg. preview generation.

Edit: I am stupid. I used some former versions of these mods. All good! @kakauiyt sorry!

 

[24H]

I always install manually. 2010 / 2011 / 2012 cars I don´t have these textures.

@MasterFocus you are on CSP 2.8p1? There were some former versions where somehow this issue did not happen. Ilya changed / tweaked alot in the background reg. preview generation.

same problem with the previews here for this mod......maybe I really have to download again and reinstall the whole mod

 

[Masscot]

I never throw an accusation like that if I didn't have absolute proof that he did use assets from Ferrari virtual academy.
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The objects have the same number of faces and vertices, the same name, the same material. And if you extract the kn5, you see that a lot of textures used comes from FVA.



I know full well the vast grey area of modding allow this and I'm myself in the grey area. But there's 2 things i very much not liked about this dude.

1 His enormous ego that allows him to lash at people without justification, coming from your average end user, I find it not normal at all to treat anyone who submit a legit feature request with that level of animosity. You guys might not care about how people treat, but it takes 0 effort to be nice toward people that didn't mean harm or asked anything in bad faith.

2 And the most important point for me, more than 1 and the reason I decided to actually makes his track removed, is that he uses Ferrari Virtual Academy assets and put his copyright on it. If it was anything else i wouldn't have cared, but Ferrari Virtual Academy holds a big place in my heart, I did a big work of preservations to gather lost exe of FVA to collect them and put them on archive.org so that it would never lost. I'm doing a big work as my last project which is recreating FVA on Assetto Corsa, I've also reached people underground to find a way to use FVA back when the servers are dead. And this guy with his ego lash out on people saying "you should be a track modder before talking to me, I did everything" piss me off the most when he reuse FVA in the background. Never in my mods I decided to put a copyright. Never have I forbid people from using assets of my mods when I use assets elsewhere.

As for the bullying, forcing a resource to be removed is now bullying? I never asked anyone to harass the guy personally, just to report the resource. I find it funny that for you, the way he treats people because his track is perfect (when it's based on stolen assets) doesn't warrant any counter reaction.

There may be no law about being nice, but there's no law that prevents people for giving him the treatment he does to others.

I don't know whether or not he worked on FVA and therefore feels he has a claim on the use of the assets, so I can't provide a confident response. Maybe he'll see these messages and reply here?
The bullying comment was nothing at all to do with anyone wanting his track to be removed, it was in response to the gleeful dog-piling that was underway regarding his personality, which has nothing to do with the tracks he's provided. Like I said, it all seemed a bit unsavoury, especially as we don't know his personal circumstances.

 

[kakauiyt]

I don't know whether or not he worked on FVA and therefore feels he has a claim on the use of the assets, so I can't provide a confident response. Maybe he'll see these messages and reply here?
The bullying comment was nothing at all to do with anyone wanting his track to be removed, it was in response to the gleeful dog-piling that was underway regarding his personality, which has nothing to do with the tracks he's provided. Like I said, it all seemed a bit unsavoury.

I find it highly doubious as Kunos in 2010 was a team of 10 people, and during FVA interviews they said that it was an in house development, with Ferrari (and kunos was full Italian at that time iirc). So they didn't mention outsourcing anything to a freelancer. And the second point is that in the thread he talks about how he did this track first in 2017, and that he didn't use LIDAR or scan for the track. Just photo reference. Which if he worked for kunos at the time and produced that assets, he should have had a look at the scan data to know how fiorano looks like. He did specify that he didn't have much reference about fiorano. So that's what made me sure he didn't work for kunos at the time as kunos was at fiorano and took extended scan including the garage to recreate.
During 2009-2021 he was working with slightly mad studio, Shift in 2009 and test drive Ferrari legends in 2012. I find it hard to believe that he was also working with kunos behind the scenes.

In the case he worked on FVA, he doesn't actually holds any rights, as when you work for a company, be it software or 3D, when you produce an asset for the company, it's the company property so you cannot apply any copyright for it and you aren't allowed to reuse it outside as it is still the property of kunos and ferrari. So it's still outside of RD rules. But if it's still the case I will apologize.

Also the dude was online on race department. When I left a review it disappeared the next day along another review I mentioned here where he answered the guy who asked for more pitbox. And he was seen online after I left the evidence in the thread. I'm pretty sure he is aware of the accusation I sent, but decided not to reply for some reasons (which is out of character for him)

 

[Vintagedriver]

Guess the publisher @LuisB can explain this more at
Before we entering a problem of 10 pages long of who is right.

 

[TMLM]

I've seen people pissed, but honestly this guy takes the cake

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All that for a fiorano which reuse ferrari virtual academy assets (which shouldn't even be allowed in race department, and it may be the whole track in fact but didn't dive deeper)

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Ferrari virtual academy

this guy
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EDIT : You know what? with an attitude like that I'll report his track. Next time he'll learn not playing any big man when he pulls of assets like that

I commented on his Portimao tracks (of which there are 2 for some reason) that they had track limits only in the gravel/far away from the real track limits and asked whether he could fix them, he first told me to provide photos, I showed him, then never got any reply or fix. I just find that quite sad, because I don't know how to fix track limits and it makes the track unusable for me if I can just go miles off track but not get a penalty or deleted lap time

 

[StoffelWaffle]

Yeah, this is all more than a little bit unsavoury. If anyone thinks somebody has broken Race Department's rules, then report it there if you really want to play policeman. It's got nothing to do with GTP.
Regardless - what crime against humanity has Luis actually committed to warrant this type of reaction in the first place? Replying abrasively (in a foreign language) to comments he disagrees with about a track he worked on and released for free?
So bloody what? There's no law about having to be nice all the time. Half of us would be in prison if that was the case.
Maybe if you're easily offended then message an RD moderator about it, or reply in the track's discussion tab on RD. Not sure why he has to be hauled over the coals here about something so trivial. It's strayed well into bullying and character assassination.
And it'd be worth triple checking facts before throwing accusations around about asset theft. As a professional track developer, there's a chance Luis actually created those assets himself in the first place. But even so, we all know the vast grey expanse that sim racing copyright arguments dwell in.
If those easily-offended pitchfork-wavers need a focus for their vitriol, then I'd suggest far more deserving candidates like those that directly copy other people's free mods, encrypt them, them stick them behind paywalls. Not somebody whose personality you happen to disagree with.

Character assassination ? Oh come on. He's acting like he's hot stuff yet cannot handle constructive criticism of his work ? I'd say he's showing his real character, guess his wee pride was hurt by some comments and guys trying to be helpful. If you can't handle that then don't post it on a site that gives reviews, oh wait maybe he loves the attention they bring !

Wanna say that his textures look a bit iffy ? He's gonna go on a long ass rant about how he's been doing that forever and obviously knows better than you, the simple peasant whose job is to play his mighty track ! He's the Jimbo Glickenhaus of track modding.

No one is trying to bully him, if anything he IS the bully.

 

[MasterFocus]

I always install manually. 2010 / 2011 / 2012 cars I don´t have these textures.

@MasterFocus you are on CSP 2.8p1? There were some former versions where somehow this issue did not happen. Ilya changed / tweaked alot in the background reg. preview generation.

Edit: Running an alpha dev PURE tho, even tho it has nothing to do with your now old problem

 

[racinjoe013]

Yeah, this is all more than a little bit unsavoury. If anyone thinks somebody has broken Race Department's rules, then report it there if you really want to play policeman. It's got nothing to do with GTP.
Regardless - what crime against humanity has Luis actually committed to warrant this type of reaction in the first place? Replying abrasively (in a foreign language) to comments he disagrees with about a track he worked on and released for free?
So bloody what? There's no law about having to be nice all the time. Half of us would be in prison if that was the case.
Maybe if you're easily offended then message an RD moderator about it, or reply in the track's discussion tab on RD. Not sure why he has to be hauled over the coals here about something so trivial. It's strayed well into bullying and character assassination.
And it'd be worth triple checking facts before throwing accusations around about asset theft. As a professional track developer, there's a chance Luis actually created those assets himself in the first place. But even so, we all know the vast grey expanse that sim racing copyright arguments dwell in.
If those easily-offended pitchfork-wavers need a focus for their vitriol, then I'd suggest far more deserving candidates like those that directly copy other people's free mods, encrypt them, them stick them behind paywalls. Not somebody whose personality you happen to disagree with.

While I generally agree with everything you said, I think the old adage that 'you reap what you sow' somewhat applies in this instance. If he is allowed to rip people for their opinions (i.e. reviews), then I got no problem when people throw it back at him. Maybe he didn't commit a crime against humanity, but it is a matter of human decency. If you want treated with respect, then you better respect the other person and he has proven time and time again that he doesn't.

 

[ninezeroniner]

While I generally agree with everything you said, I think the old adage that 'you reap what you sow' somewhat applies in this instance. If he is allowed to rip people for their opinions (i.e. reviews), then I got no problem when people throw it back at him. Maybe he didn't commit a crime against humanity, but it is a matter of human decency. If you want treated with respect, then you better respect the other person and he has proven time and time again that he doesn't.

Was about to use the very same adage. We all know the "I'm pro you are not" non-argument is mostly just spite.
Lots of folks just release stuff and get jiggy with it.

 

[Masscot]

Or we could just criticise the work and not the person. Why does everything have to be ad hominem attacks these days? I blame Trump. But obviously, I'm not criticising him. Just his hairdo.

 

[kakauiyt]

Or we could just criticise the work and not the person. Why does everything have to be ad hominem attacks these days? I blame Trump. But obviously, I'm not criticising him. Just his hairdo.

Every of his attacks were ad hominem. C'mon mascot did you see the reply I posted? He never hesitate saying "you are not a modder, I'm a pro you know nothing I'm right" asking people what were their contribution before daring talking about his stuff. I find it very weird that you are so against the "you reap what you saw". If you have no problem with his attitude why have a probablem when we replicate his attitude back to the guy?

I don't even understand why you try to protect the guy at all cost

 

[ninezeroniner]

[edit] Or we could just criticise the work [edit]

Can we? Someone tried.
For me question's over, simply glad some folks noticed that tiny something.

Oh, and I'm a bit sorry for kakauiyt because moderation on OT has never really worked.

 

[Masscot]

Every of his attacks were ad hominem. C'mon mascot did you see the reply I posted? He never hesitate saying "you are not a modder, I'm a pro you know nothing I'm right" asking people what were their contribution before daring talking about his stuff. I find it very weird that you are so against the "you reap what you saw". If you have no problem with his attitude why have a probablem when we replicate his attitude back to the guy?

I don't even understand why you try to protect the guy at all cost

Not sure we are agreeing on what ad hominem means. I haven't read everything he wrote but I can't remember him issuing targeted personal attacks when stating his position. Telling someone they're not a modder isn't quite the same thing at all. Anyway, we've probably flogged this particular horse so I'm happy to back out and bow to popular opinion.