B-spec Scripting: Settings for Collecting 0 to 7375 Points (110,000 Cr. Test)

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The idea behind this thread is that B-spec races can be scripted. If all factors are controlled, you should be able to win the specified races using the same car and settings, and the race will be identical - an instant replay. This Test Script is designed for experienced players. Very little detail is provided on how to change the settings, you'll need to figure this out on your own.

Script: Requirements

• GT3 Save for Importing 100,000 Credits
• GT4 Save on 2nd Memory Card for Trading a Ginetta G4 '64
• Or, use A-spec to earn the required credits and vehicle.
• B-spec Points = 0/0/0/0

 

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Description of B-spec Points



Strategies for Collection B-spec Points

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Scripting Note: Overtake is always on. The idea is that all variables are set before the race begins. Check the Settings, start the race in B-spec Mode, (turn on Overtake,) and set the pace. The results will be the same if the race is run at normal or 3x speed; time estimates are based on the 3x setting.

 

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Subclass A-1

Day 1, New Game, 10000, 10000

• Import GT3 Credits, 100000, 110000
• Trade for Ginetta G4 '64, -40799, 69201
• Autosave Restricted

A-1: Estimated Time: 45 minutes

A-1 Preparation

Day 2, UK, Triumph, Classics

• Triumph Spitfire 1500 '74, -17200, 52001
• Change the Oil, -50, 51951

Day 3, Wheel Shop

• Buy nice looking wheels, -500, 51451

Tune Shop, A-1 Tuning for Spitfire

• NA Tuning: Stage 1, -4600, 46851
• Racing Chip, -1000, 45851
• Sports Tires: Hard (S1), -4100, 41751
• Carbon Driveshaft (Carbon Shaft), -2500, 39251
• =91HP, 8.933 PWR, S1 Tires, (Downforce 0)

Home, Parts Change/Settings

• Set A
  • Racing Chip, NA1, S1 Tires
  • Weight 0 0
  • Carbon Shaft

• Set B
  • Racing Chip, NA1, S1 Tires
  • Weight 0 0

• Set C
  • Racing Chip, NA1, S1 Tires
  • Weight 4 0
  • Carbon Shaft

A-1 Collection

• UK, Triumph, One-make Races, Spitfire Cup

-------- Track ---- Value - Credits --- Set - Mods A ------- Mods B ------- Pace ------ MOV - Time ---- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 4    El Capitan  3000     42251   Set A   Carbon Shaft                  Fast      6.854   5'13.594     403    8   4   3
Day 5    El Capitan  3000     45251   Set A   Carbon Shaft                  Steady    0.106   5'20.152     502   10   5   5
Day 6    El Capitan  3000     48251   Set B                                 Steady    6.587   5'13.910     527   10   5   5
Day 7    El Capitan  3000     51251   Set B                                 Steady    6.379   5'14.520     554   11   5   5
Day 8    El Capitan  3000     54251   Set C   Carbon Shaft   Weight 4 0     Cruise    0.075   5'20.636     565   11   5   5
Day 9    Autumn Mini 3000     57251   Set C   Carbon Shaft   Weight 4 -45   Fast      1.073   3'34.088     601   12   6   6
Day 10   El Capitan  3000     60251   Set A   Carbon Shaft                  Cruise    2.705   5'18.548     609   12   6   6
Day 11   El Capitan  3000     63251   Set C                  Weight 4 +45   Slow      3.921   5'19.698     611   12   6   6

• Change the Oil, -50, 63201

 

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A-2 Preparation

• Ginetta G4 '64

A-2 Estimated Time: 30 minutes

Day 12, GT Auto, Wheel Shop,

• Buy nice looking wheels, -500, 62701
• Change the Oil, -50, 62651

Tune Shop, A-2 Tuning for G4

• Racing Chip, -1250, 61401
• Sports Exhaust, -1550, 59851
• Sports Tires: Soft (S3), -6200, 53651
• =102HP, 4.467 PWR, S3 Tires, (Downforce 0)
• Note: Only Set A is used with no modifications

A-2 Collection,

• Save and Reset to fix the Reset Lineup
• Repeat the race to keep the same lineup

Reset Lineup

1. Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 '65
2. Fiat 500F '65
3. Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale '63
4. Lotus Elan S1 '62
5. VW Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) '68
6. Ginetta G4 '64

• European Events, Europe Classic Car League

-------- Track -------------- Value - Credits ---Pace ------ MOV - Time ---- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 13   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000     63651    Slow      0.522   3'45.753    1010   17   9  12
Day 14   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000     73651    Slow      2.154   3'42.750    1172   20  11  12
Day 15   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000     83651    Slow      3.684   3.42.749    1211   21  12  12
Day 16   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000     93651    Cruise    3.970   3.42.426    1236   22  12  12
Day 17   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    103651    Slow      2.591   3.42.929    1252   22  12  12
Day 18   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    113651    Cruise    4.267   3.43.232    1272   23  13  13
Day 19   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    123651    Slow      0.428   3.45.927    1285   23  13  13
Day 20   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    133651    Slow      4.343   3.42.012    1300   23  13  13
  * Save and Reset to fix the Reset Lineup
Day 21   Nurburgring          10000    143651    Slow      4.451   9.26.531    1373   25  14  13

• Save and Reset to fix the Reset Lineup

Earning Credits: > 200,000 Required for B-1 and B-2
Estimated Time: 10 minutes

-------- Track -------------- Value - Credits ---Pace ------ MOV - Time
Day 22   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    153651    Slow      0.842   3'45.507
Day 23   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    163651    Cruise    2.887   3'43.808
Day 24   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    173651    Steady    2.580   3'45.074
Day 25   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    183651    Cruise
Day 26   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    193651    Cruise
Day 27   Fuji Speedway '80s   10000    203651    Cruise

• Change the Oil, -50, 203601

 

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B-1 Preparation

• USA, Chrysler, New Cars

Day 28, Chrysler Crossfire '04, -35670, 167931

• Change the Oil, -50, 167881

Tune Shop, B-1 Tuning for Crossfire

• NA Tuning: Stage 2 (NA2), -12000, 155881
• Clutch: Sports (Sport Clutch), -1600, 154281
• Clutch: Twin Plate (Twin Clutch), -2600, 151681
• Flywheel: Sport (Sport Fly), -430, 151251
• Limited-slip:Full Customized (Full Slip), -6300, 144951
• Carbon Driveshaft (Carbon Shaft), -2750, 142201
• Tires Racing Tires: Super-hard (R1) (R1 Tires), -8100, 134101
• =289 HP, 4.711 PWR, R1 Tires, (Downforce 0)

GT Auto, Wheel Shop
Day 29, Buy nice looking wheels, -500, 133601

Home, Parts Change/Settings

• Set A
  • NA2
  • R1 Tires
  • Twin Clutch
  • Carbon Shaft

• Set B
  • NA2
  • R1 Tires
  • Sport Clutch
  • Full Slip 10 42 20

• Set C
  • NA2
  • R1 Tires
  • Sport Clutch
  • Sport Fly
  • Full Slip 10 40 20

B-1 Collection

• USA, Chrysler, One-make Races. Crossfire Trophy

-------- Track ------- ---------Value - Credits - Set --- Mods A ----Mods B ------- Mods C ------ Mods D ------------ Pace ----- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 30   Motegi Super Speedway   7500    141101   Set A   R1 Tires   Twin Clutch    Carbon Shaft                      Steady   0.214   2'24.511   1713   28  16  19
Day 31   Trial Mountain Reverse  7500    148601   Set B   R1 Tires   Sport Clutch                 Full Slip 10 42 20  Fast     0.063   3'54.998   2161   34  21  22
Day 32   Seattle Circuit Reverse 7500    156101   Set B   R1 Tires   Normal Clutch                Full Slip 10 42 20  Steady   0.004   4'05.371   2268   36  23  23
Day 33   Prize Car Delivered - Dodge VIPER GTSR Concept '00
Day 34   Seattle Circuit Reverse 7500    163601   Set C   R1 Tires   Sport Clutch   Sport Fly     Full Slip 10 40 20  Steady   0.241   4'05.308   2291   37  24  23
Day 35   Motegi Super Speedway   7500    171101   Set C   S2 Tires   Twin Clutch    Sport Fly     Full Slip 10 40 20  Cruise   0.070   2'24.554   2314   37  24  23

• Change the Oil, -50, 171051

 

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B-2 Preparation

• France, Renault, New Cars, ,

Day 36, Renault Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 '02, -53720, 117331

• Change the Oil, -50, 117281

Tune Shop, B-2 Tuning for Clio B-Phase, ,

• Sports Exhaust, -1600, 115681
• Racing Exhaust, -4800, 110881
• Racing Brakes, -4700, 106181
• Brake Controler, -10600, 95581
• NA Tuning: Stage 2 (NA2), -12500, 83081
• Port Polish, -5500, 77581
• Racing Chip, -1500, 76081
• Racing Suspension, -17000, 59081
• Clutch: Triple-plate (Triple Clutch), -4700, 54381
• Flywheel: Racing (Racing Fly), -1050, 53331
• Racing Medium (R3) Tires, -22500, 30831
• Weght Reduction: Stage 1, -1200, 29631
• Weight Reduction: Stage 2, -5500, 24131
• Weight Reduction: Stage 3, -22000, 2131

GT Auto
Day 37, Wing Shop - Wing, -1200, 931
Day 38, Wheel Shop - Wheels, -500, 431

Home, Parts Change/Settings

• "Clio B-Phase" Core - always the same
  • NA2
  • R3 Tires
  • Racing Brakes
  • Brake Controller
  • Triple Clutch
  • Racing Fly
  • Racing Suspension (height varies)

• Set A - Clio 387
  • Racing Exhaust
  • Sport Chip
  • Ballast Weight, 13 minimum
  • Downforce 0 total
  • 3.112 PWR
    • Set A initial settings
      • Ride Height F/R = Ride 93 93
      • Downforce F/R = Down 0 0
      • Ballast Weight and Balance = Weight 13 -48

• Set B - Clio 375
  • Sport Exhaust
  • Sport Chip
  • Ballast Weight, 9 minimum, or 1 with Down 6
  • Downforce 7 total, or sub ~8 ballast for 1 downforce
  • 3.194 PWR
    • Set B initial settings
      • Ride Height F/R = Ride 111 111 (default)
      • Downforce F/R = Down 2 5
      • Ballast Weight and Balance = Weight 13 -47

• Set C - Clio 361
  • Sport Exhaust
  • Balast Weight, 3 minimum
  • Downforce 17 total
  • 3.304 PWR
  • Note: Set C script is incomplete
    • Set C initial settings
      • Ride Height F/R = Ride 111 111
      • Downforce F/R = Down 9 8
      • Balast Weight and Balance = Weight 3 -44

There are different scripts for each vehicle variation. They don't mix until the collection is complete. The script for the Clio 361 came up a bit sort on points and is incomplete. Choose either Set A - Clio 387 script, or Set B - Clio 375 script. Or, feel free to complete the Clio 361 script since the plan is to run the Championship 4 times anyway to earn credits for C-1 thru D-2. I fudged the Credits so the numbers would work out in the spreadsheet. It would be a good idea to examine the method carefully; this section is a bit confusing.

B-2 Collection - Set A, Clio 387

• France, Renault, One-Make Races, Clio Trophy
• Enter the Championship Series

-------- Track -------------------- Value - Credits - Set ------ Mods A ------ Mods B --- Mods C ------- Pace --- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 39   Suzuka Circuit             10000   10431     Clio 387   Ride 93 93    Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Fast   1.711   6'52.128   3204   47  33  33
Day 40   Motegi Road Course         10000   20431     Clio 387   Ride 93 93    Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Steady 6.728   8'21.002   3342   48  34  33
Day 41   Tsukuba                    10000   30431     Clio 387   Ride 93 93    Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Fast   0.547   7'03.803   3378   49  35  33
Day 42   Deep Forest                10000   40431     Clio 387   Ride 115 115  Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Fast   0.009   5'47.153   3406   49  35  34
Day 43   El Capitan Reverse         10000   50431     Clio 387   Ride 113 113  Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Steady 3.854   7'57.531   3446   49  36  34
Day 44   Prize Car Delivered - Clio Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car '00, 50000, 100431

Day 45   Suzuka Circuit             10000   110431    Clio 387   Ride 115 115  Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Steady 6.451   6'48.149   3455   50  36  34

Day 46, 52, 58   Motegi Road Course 10000   120431    Clio 387   Ride 115 115  Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Steady         8'13.513
Day 47, 53, 59   Tsukuba            10000   130431    Clio 387   Ride 115 115  Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Fast           6'51.675
Day 48, 54, 60   Deep Forest        10000   140431    Clio 387   Ride 115 115  Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Fast           5'45.808
Day 49, 55, 61   El Capitan Reverse 10000   150431    Clio 387   Ride 115 115  Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Fast           7'44.747
Day 50, 56, 62   Prize Car Delivered - Clio Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car '00, 50000, 200431

Day 51, 57       Suzuka Circuit                       Clio 387   Ride 115 115  Down 0 0   Weight 13 -48  Steady         6'50.752

• Change Oil after 2 series, -50, 200381

B-2 Collection - Set B, Clio 375

• France, Renault, One-Make Races, Clio Trophy
• Enter the Championship Series

-------- Track -------------------- Value - Credits - Set ------ Mods A ------ Mods B --- Mods C ------- Pace --- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 39   Suzuka Circuit             10000   210381    Clio 375   Ride 111 111  Down 2 5   Weight 13 -47  Fast   3.454   6'51.117   3216   46  32  33
Day 40   Motegi Road Course         10000   220381    Clio 375   Ride 95 95    Down 1 6   Weight 11 -48  Steady 1.605   8.24.807   3345   48  34  34
Day 41   Tsukuba                    10000   230381    Clio 375   Ride 95 95    Down 3 4   Weight 9 -48   Fast   0.551   7'03.851   3367   48  35  34
Day 42   Deep Forest                10000   240381    Clio 375   Ride 115 115  Down 4 3   Weight 9 -48   Fast   0.052   5'47.082   3391   49  35  34
Day 43   El Capitan Reverse         10000   250381    Clio 375   Ride 115 115  Down 0 7   Weight 9 -46   Steady 3.712   7'55.393   3435   49  35  34
Day 44   Prize Car Delivered - Clio Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car '00, 50000, 300381

Day 45   Suzuka Circuit             10000   310381    Clio 375   Ride 115 115  Down 0 7   Weight 9 -46   Steady 1.754   6'52.226   3455   50  36  34

Day 46, 52, 58  Motegi Road Course  10000   320381   Clio 375   Ride 113 113   Down 4 3   Weight 11 -45  Steady         8'15.302
Day 47, 53, 59  Tsukuba             10000   330381   Clio 375   Ride 113 113   Down 4 3   Weight 11 -45  Fast   0.301   7'03.928
Day 48, 54, 60  Deep Forest         10000   340381   Clio 375   Ride 113 113   Down 4 3   Weight 11 -45  Fast           5'44.089
Day 49, 55, 61  El Capitan Reverse  10000   350381   Clio 375   Ride 113 113   Down 4 3   Weight 11 -45  Fast           7'54.417
Day 50, 56, 62  Prize Car Delivered - Clio Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car '00, 50000, 400381

Day 51, 57   Suzuka Circuit                          Clio 375   Ride 113 113   Down 4 3   Weight 11 -45  Steady         6'48.605

• Change Oil after 2 series, -50, 400331

B-2 Collection - Set C, Clio 361 (incomplete)

• France, Renault, One-Make Races, Clio Trophy
• Enter the Championship Series

-- Track ------------- Set ------ Mods A ------ Mods B --- Mods C ------ Mods D -Pace --- MOV - Time
   Suzuka              Clio 361   Ride 111 111  Down 9 8   Weight 3 -44          Fast   1.432   6'52.904
   Motegi Road Course  Clio 361   Ride 91 91    Down 6 11  Weight 3 -48          Fast   1.570   8'24.609
   Tsukuba Circuit     Clio 361   Ride 93 93    Down 6 11  Weight 3 -44          Fast   0.222   7'03.672
   Deep Forest Normal  Clio 361   Ride 113 113  Down 10 7  Weight 3 -44          Push   2.062   5'46.432
   El Capitan Reverse  Clio 361   Ride 113 113  Down 7 10  Weight 3 -45  Standard Fly & Brakes, no controller      Fast   5.636   7'54.427

 

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C-1 Preparation

Day 63, Sell Clio Race Car, 95624, 495955
Day 64, Sell Clio Race Car, 95624, 591579
Day 65, Sell Clio Race Car, 95624, 687203
Day 66, Sell Clio Race Car, 95624, 782827

• USA, Shelby, New Cars

Day 67, Shelby Series 1 Super Charged '03, -184630, 598197

• Change the Oil, -50, 513547

Tune Shop, C-1 Tuning for Shelby Series 1

• Racing Exhaust, -4900, 593297
• NA2, -13500, 579797
• Port Polish, -5800, 573997
• Engine Balancing, -14000, 559997
• Racing Chip, -1800, 558197
• Clutch: Triple-plate, -4800, 553397
• Racing Flywheel, -1100, 552297
• R1 Tires, -8700, 543597
• Weight Reduction: Stage 1, -1300, 542297
• Weight Reduction: Stage 2, -5700, 536597
• Weight Reduction: Stage 3, -23000, 513597
• =503HP 2.103 PWR, R1 Tires, (Downforce 0)

GT Auto, Wheel Shop
Day 68, Buy some nice wheels, -500, 513047

C-1 Collection

• USA, Shelby, One-make Races, Shelby Cobra Cup

-------- Track ------------Value - Credits - Mods A ------ Pace ----- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 69   High Speed Ring   10000   523047    standard fly  Fast     0.432   2'47.714   3937   53  39  42
Day 70   New York          10000   533047    racing fly    Steady   0.912   3'41.019   4247   57  44  44
Day 71   Trial Mountain    10000   543047    racing fly    Fast     2.480   3.29.208   4485   61  46  45
Day 72   Trial Mountain    10000   553047    racing fly    Fast    10.440   3'21.543   4548   62  47  45
Day 73   New York          10000   563047    racing fly    Steady   9.810   3'33.052   4571   62  47  45

• Change the Oil, -50, 562997

 

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C-2 and D-1 Preparation

• USA, Saleen, New Cars

Day 74, Saleen S7 '07, -419130, 143867

Tune Shop, C-2 and D-1 Tuning for Saleen S7

• R2 Tires, -10750, 133117
• R4 Tires, -35250, 97867
• NA2, -13500, 84367

GT Auto, Change the Oil, -50, 84317
Day 75, Buy Wheels, -500, 83817

Home, Parts Change/Settings

• Set A
  • R2 Tires
  • =586HP, 2.133 PWR

• Set B
  • R4 Tires
  • =586HP, 2.133 PWR

• Set C (D-1)
  • R4 Tires
  • NA2
  • =768HP, 1.628 PWR

C-2 Collection

• USA, Saleen, One-make Races, Saleen S7 Club

-------- Track ---------------------- Value - Credits - Set --- Mods A --- Pace ------ MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 76   Suzuka Circuit               10000     93817   Set A   R2 Tires   Fast      1.457   6'55.219   5422   72  55  55
Day 77   Sarthe I                     10000    103817   Set A   R2 Tires   Steady    7.133   8'32.737   5540   74  56  55
Day 78   Infineon - Sports Car Course 10000    113817   Set B   R4 Tires   Steady  Running   6'38.518   5593   75  57  55

D-1 Collection

• USA, Saleen, One-make Races, Saleen S7 Club

-------- Track --------- Value - Credits - Set --- Mods A --- Mods B -- Pace ---- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 79   Sarthe I        10000    123817   Set C   R4 Tires   NA2       Slow    4.135   8'35.086   6374   85  64  64
Day 80   Suzuka Circuit  10000    133817   Set C   R4 Tires   NA2       Slow   15.343   6'43.503   6497   87  65  64

D-2 Preparation

Tune Shop

• R5 Tires, -47750, 86067
• Weight Reduction: Stage 1, -1300, 84767
• Weight Reduction: Stage 2, -5700, 79067
• Weight Reduction: Stage 3, -23000, 56067
• =768HP, 1.393 PWR

D-2 Collection

• USA, Saleen, One-make Races, Saleen S7 Club

-------- Track --------- Value - Credits - Set --- Mods A --- Mods B --Mods C -- Pace ----- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 81   Sarthe I        10000     66067   Set C   R5 Tires   NA2      WR3       Slow   Running   8'04.503   7109   97  71  70
Day 82   Suzuka Circuit  10000     76067   Set C   R5 Tires   NA2      WR3       Slow   Running   6'22.296   7258  100  72  72

• Change the Oil, -50, 76017

 

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9 More Tracks for Hard Milestone of 7375/100/73/73

Clio as Class C, add Downforce 9 8

• France, Renault, One-Make Races, Clio Trophy
• Enter the Championship Series

-------- Track ------------- Value - Credits - Set ----- Mods A ------ Mods B --- Mods C ------- Pace ----- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 83   Suzuka Circuit      10000     86017   Clio 387  Ride 115 115  Down 9 8   Weight 13 -48  Steady   7.584   6'47.144
Day 84   Motegi Road Course  10000     96017   Clio 387  Ride 115 115  Down 9 8   Weight 13 -48  Steady   4.482   8'22.481   7271
Day 85   Tsukuba             10000    106017   Clio 387  Ride 115 115  Down 9 8   Weight 13 -48  Fast     9.916   6'55.253   7284
Day 86   Deep Forest         10000    116017   Clio 387  Ride 115 115  Down 8 9   Weight  9 -45  Fast     1.421   5'45.992   7297
Day 87   El Capitan Reverse  10000    126017   Clio 387  Ride 115 115  Down 10 7  Weight  9 -45  Steady   9.509   7'50.921   7310  100  73  73

Day 88 Prize Car Delivered - Clio Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car '00, 50000, 176017

• Change the Oil, -50, 175967

Shelby Series 1 can be upgraded into C-2

Tune Shop

• Racing Tires: Medium (R3), -22750, 153217

-------- Track --------- Value - Credits -- Mods A ----Pace ----- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 89   Leguna Seca     10000    163217    R3 Tires   Steady   6.497   3'12.493   7323
Day 90   Seattle Reverse 10000    173217    R3 Tires   Steady   0.234   3'37.242   7336

Day 91 Prize Car Delivered - Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R '65

• Change the Oil, -50, 173167

Triumph can be upgrade into A-2

• Racing Flywheel, -900, 172267
• Sports Exhaust, -1500, 170767
• Sports Tires: Soft, -5600, 165167

-------- Track ----------------------- Value - Credits -- Set --- Mods A --- Mods B - Mods C ----- Mods D ------- Pace --- MOV - Time --- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 92   Motegi West Short              3000    168167    Set C   S3 Tires   92HP     Racing Fly   Weight 4 +45   Fast   0.510   2'52.834   7348
Day 93   Clubman Stage Route 5 Normal   3000    171167    Set C   S3 Tires   92HP                  Weight 4 +45   Fast   4.928   3'58.314   7361
Day 94   Seoul Central Reverse          3000    174167    Set A   S3 Tires   92HP     Racing Fly   Weight 4 +45   Fast   7.035   3'00.494   7375  100  73  73

Day 95 Prize Car Delivered - Triumph Spitfire 1500 '74 (Special Color)

• Change the Oil, -50, 174117

 

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Reserved

 

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Summary Post


The topic is open for comments.

 

[mafia_boy]

That's incredible work there Orion, and congratulations on achieving your goal. I've been watching this eagerly, and your method looks awesome too. Less than 100 days to get those B-Spec levels is tempting to do now, on 1 MC atleast.

Mafs!!

 

[nualum]

Nicely done! I just hit 7375 a couple days ago with the old 'ring method, but it took a great deal more uncertainty, experimentation, resources, and losses. I certainly appreciate the work you (and others) did to organize the information for that walkthrough also, but it seems like you're well on the way to a better repeatable method. 👍

 

[dylansan]

This will definitely help me a lot, but I'm confused about what "Mods A, B, C, etc." mean.

Thanks though, this looks very helpful. I don't know if you saw my other question in the other thread, but are you planning on scripting all the way to 10000?

 

[Orion_SR]

Yeah, sorry. This draft is still a bit rough and short on details. The Mods A, etc. are the settings that must be used in order to get the exact same race with the same time and points. For the most part, there is a core vehicle that doesn't change, but then there are a handful of parts used as variables that can be changed in order to produce a good point scoring race. The B-1 Crossfire collection was my 1st attempt to script a sub-class, and I used quite a few different parts to arrange for very close races. Since then I'm made an attempt to limit the variables to just 2 or 3.

And as far as scripting the rest of the 10000 points, maybe. I'm working on a 10000 Credit new game variation to 7375, then I'll take a look at some of the other events. I'm not sure if the events will lead to all 10000 points or not, but I'd like to see how close I can get.

 

[dylansan]

Ok, cool. I'm just confused a bit. For example, for A1, it says carbon driveshaft for set A, even though you already specified that in the settings. What does this mean?

 

[Orion_SR]

It means I had problems following my own notes unless I listed each variable in the chart. The Core parts are set in the beginning, but once a part becomes a variable it should always be listed in the Mods section for the race. The A-1 section is a good example of this. The Carbon Shaft became a variable when it wasn't used on the second race, so it is always listed as present, or not, for each race. The only other variable is the ballast weight and balance. If it's not listed then the Weight is 0 at 0. When you view your Settings Tab to verify the configuration, it should be easy to recognize which parts should be used and how they are set.

 

[dylansan]

Hey I was going to give the cars a wash (I have enough money), but did you ever notice if it affected the results of any races? I don't want to try if it might screw it up.
Just did the first Spitfire race, got different results. I had it on set A, pace 4, and overtake on. I'm still confused a bit. What am I supposed to do when I see those mods? I kept the carbon driveshaft on, was I supposed to take it off?

Just so I can be absolutely sure of what's going on, what should the settings be for the first Triumph race? You said that carbon driveshaft is a variable, and that you didn't use it in the second race, but both have the same details listed (set A, carbon driveshaft) If I leave the driveshaft, it's still the same as set A. If I remove it, you could have just said set B. Please help me, I think a lot of this needs to be clarified before this becomes really useful.

 

[Orion_SR]

Maybe it will help to completely ignore the Setting Tabs, and just go by the Mods. Day 4 and 5 races the Carbon Shaft is on. Day 6 and 7 have it off. Day 8, 9, and 10, the Carbon Shaft is on; Day 11 it's off again. If you can follow the Tab formula then you won't need to make quite as many adjustments; but it's still a good idea to check each variable before the race. For this Triumph series, you only need to check the Carbon Shaft and Ballast Weight. I'm hoping to make this process a little easier follow. Sorry about the confusion.

-------- Track ---- Value - Credits --- Set - Mods A ------- Mods B ------- Pace ------ MOV - Time ---- B-spec -- M - C - B
Day 4    El Capitan  3000     42251   Set A   Carbon Shaft                  Fast      6.854   5'13.594     403    8   4   3
Day 5    El Capitan  3000     45251   Set A   Carbon Shaft                  Steady    0.106   5'20.152     502   10   5   5
Day 6    El Capitan  3000     48251   Set B                                 Steady    6.587   5'13.910     527   10   5   5
Day 7    El Capitan  3000     51251   Set B                                 Steady    6.379   5'14.520     554   11   5   5
Day 8    El Capitan  3000     54251   Set C   Carbon Shaft   Weight 4 0     Cruise    0.075   5'20.636     565   11   5   5
Day 9    Autumn Mini 3000     57251   Set C   Carbon Shaft   Weight 4 -45   Fast      1.073   3'34.088     601   12   6   6
Day 10   El Capitan  3000     60251   Set A   Carbon Shaft                  Cruise    2.705   5'18.548     609   12   6   6
Day 11   El Capitan  3000     63251   Set C                  Weight 4 +45   Slow      3.921   5'19.698     611   12   6   6

 

[dylansan]

I will try that, but do I still use S1 tires, NA1, and chip?
Because I couldn't duplicate your results for day 4. My MOV was about 11 seconds, which doesn't match up with any of your results.

 

[Orion_SR]

Yes, the S1 Tires, NA1, and Racing Chip get the vehicle up to the most "potential" for that subclass. I've noticed that vehicles tend to earn floating points quicker if they are as powerful as can be without tipping over into the next higher subclass. Also, I generally get better results using the hardest tires that can win the race. Harder tires allows me to work with more horsepower, which also helps wins the race. So for the Triumph the NA1 and Racing Chip combination set maximum the horsepower for 0 Ballast, and 0 downforce, for S1 tires with the Triumph's normal weight. I could probably squeeze a little more potential by installing one more power upgrade and carrying a little more ballast, but I had enough with this setup at this point need to keep things cheap.

Triumph Core (always the same): 91HP (=NA1 and Racing Chip), S1 Tires
* There is No Wing.
* Ballast is only used to tweak the race results a little.

The only modifiers are the Carbon Shaft, and Ballast Weight and Balance.

The Carbon Shaft is listed if used for that race, otherwise it should not be equipped.

The Weight is usually 0 with a front/rear Balance of 0 (Weight 0 0). This is not listed.
Sometimes when I've got things almost right I can alter the passing or handling of the vehicle just a little so he wins instead of looses by adjusting the Ballast Weight.

Another way to explain: Install all the parts. Run the race twice. Then remove the carbon shaft for the next two races. Put it back on and also check the weight for the next 4 races, and the carbon shaft is off again on the last race. If overtake is always on and the pace is set correctly, you should be able to match race times.

However, this method is still relatively untested. If you have the North American version then I'm fairly certain our results will match once the procedure is worked out correctly. If you using another version there is the possibility that there may be slight differences in the vehicles or game that would alter the results. I am hoping that the one-make races are most likely to be the same for many versions, and trying my best to stay away from the Japanese vehicles which tend to vary the most from version to version. Check the power to weight ratio (PWR) listed for the Spitfire after it's been tuned. If it isn't 8.933 then we might have a problem.

 

[dylansan]

It is 8.933, however even with the Sports Chip, NA1, S1 Tires, and Carbon driveshaft, I'm getting 11 second MOVs. I don't know what the problem could be.

 

[Danny]

Excellent work! 👍

 

[Orion_SR]

Oops, sorry. Double post. Not sure how that happened.

 

[Orion_SR]

It is 8.933, however even with the Sports Chip, NA1, S1 Tires, and Carbon driveshaft, I'm getting 11 second MOVs. I don't know what the problem could be.

Thanks for trying this out. I'm not sure what the problem is either. I'll try to list all the factors I can think of. Perhaps you'll be able to identify the difference:

• Triumph Spitfire has Horsepower of 91.
• Power to Weight Ratio is 8.933.
• The B-spec driver is starting with 0/0/0/0.
• The Pace is set, and Overtake is on, before the race begins. Nothing is changed during the race.
• I am using the North American Version - original release
• Weight and Balance is 0 0 for the 1st race
• Race is held at the Triumph One-make Race, El Capitan

When I was checking on the procedure described by the Japanese Author, one of the 1st things I noticed was that the power to weight ratio didn't match on some of the vehicles. The other thing I noticed was the line-ups were different, which is why I try to stick with One-make Races whenever possible.

I'll be really disappointed if the Triumph Spitfire doesn't match between versions. It's difficult to find good vehicles with races on generous track to use for this method in the A subclasses. But judging by your profile I suspect we are using the same version... So I'm really confused why our results don't match.

Running a few tests:

Pace = Push (5), 11.576 MOV, Time 5'09.414

Should be:

Pace = Fast (4), 6.854 MOV, Time 5'13.594

Is that it? If you post your exact time and MOV then I'll know if I stumble across the settings you are using.

 

[dylansan]

When I set to pace = 4, I get what you have written for pace = 5. I've tried it twice with the same result.

 

[Orion_SR]

When I set to pace = 4, I get what you have written for pace = 5. I've tried it twice with the same result.

Well, that's strange. What happens when you use Pace 3 - Steady? And if that works, I suppose you'll get into trouble on the last Spitfire race when you won't be able to set a sub-slow pace. Has there been a re-release of the game? IIRC correctly, I got mine the day is was released.

I suppose the other factor I haven't considered is A-spec level. My results are all from an A-spec = 0 game.

 

[dylansan]

So are mine. My save is the same as yours but with more money. I will try pace 3 soon enough, but I should also mention that I am running on the PS3 right now. I doubt that could change the programming of the game however, but I thought I'd mention it. It is very strange though. I'm also wondering if running pace 3 will give the same points as pace 4 does for you.

 

[Orion_SR]

Well, I'm a little worried that no one has been able to verify these results. The success of the Crossfire experiment led me to believe we could duplicate race scores and points if we controlled all of the appropriate factors. My experiments continue to go quite well. I've been able to transpose different sub-class collections in different sequences and for the most part I get identical results.

I've got a good outline for a 10,000 Credit game start that leads from B-spec 0/0/0/0 to 7375/100/73/73 and $2,757,597 Credits in 96 days (~25 days used to buy, win, or sell cars, tires, or wings). I'll post the A-1 collection here in the hopes that someone will be able to verify that this section can be repeated. In order to get started I need to rely on the Save and Reset strategy for fixing the Restart Lineup. I'm still a little worried about the variables that might influence the lineup, but if the game starts at 10,000 Credits with 0 A-spec and 0 B-spec points, I suspect the results should be repeatable - at least on the North American version. I strongly suspect that the lineups for the 1st few events will be different on the Japanese version. I'm trying to stay away from Japanese events, but this is the best game start I can find for the version I am using.


10,000 Credit New Game Start - preview

Game starts with 10,000 Credits.
Change the options, and restrict Auto-save.
B-spec Skill is 0
Machine Skill is 0
Course Skill is 0
Battle Skill is 0
* Written as B-spec/M/C/B: 0/0/0/0

Goto the Used Car Showroom I
Day 1: Buy the Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) '91 for 5102 credits.
Change the Oil, 50 Credits

Goto the Suzuki Sport Tune Shop
Buy and Install Turbine: Stage 1 (Turbo 1) to reach 77HP
Credits: 348

Change Parts and Settings
- Change the Weight and Balance to 5 Ballast at front -48 (Weight 5 -48)
Save and Reset to fix the Restart Lineup

Goto the Beginner Events, Lightweight K Cup
Enter Beginner Course Normal - 7 Laps

The Restart Lineup for the Beginner Events, Lightweight K Cup should be:
* Restart Lineups are a primary concern for verification
1 Suzuki WAGON R RR '98
2 Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21E) '95
3 Suzuki Kei WORKS '02
4 Honda BEAT Version F '92
5 Daihatsu Copen Active Top '02
6 Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) '91

Race Notes: Overtake is always On. Pit is always Off. The Pace is set before the race begins. Nothing is changed during the race. 3x Speed is optional. Run-on after the races doesn't change the points.

Day 2: Beginner Course.
Cappuccino with Turbo 1 is installed
Weight is 5 at -48, pace is Push.

I prefer not to use Push, but at this point I need a win at all costs. Besides, he's usually a pace setting slow when he's starting a new sub-class, and the Cappuccino handles fairly well.

Win the race for 2,000 Credits with a MOV of 0.578 and race time of 3'52.186. <- updated
B-spec points should total: 310/6/4/3
^better than expected for a Push race.
Credits 2348

Goto the Suzuki Sport Tune Shop
Buy and Install a Racing Chip for 1000 credits
Buy Weight Reduction: Stage 1 for 1000 credits
=80HP, 8.486 PWR
^not necessarily tuned to max A-1 potential

Credits: 348

Set the Weight to 1 at -44
Save and Reset to fix the Restart Lineup

Goto Japan, Suzuki, One-make Races, K-Car Cup
Enter Tsukuba - 3 Laps

Race Notes: This race will be repeated 5 times in order to earn the credits required to buy a car that can enter a track that will provide the A-1 points that are not available in the K-Car races. Retry the race each time to retain the Restart Lineup. The Weight Balance is the same for the first 2 races, and changes before the 3rd race to the setting used for races 3, 4, and 5.

Restart Lineup for Suzuki K-Car Cup should be:
1 Suzuki Kei WORKS '02
2 Suzuki ALTO WORKS RS-Z '97
3 Suzuki ALTO LAPIN Turbo '02
4 Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21E) '95)
5 Suzuki MR Wagon Sport '04
6 Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) '91

Cappuccino with Turbo 1, Racing Chip, and Weight Reduction 1 (core*)
* The "core" parts will always be the same on subsequent races

Day 3: Tsukuba, Weight 1 -44, Pace is Steady
Win the race, 5000 Cr., Credits: 5348
2.409 MOV, Time 4'05.353
B-spec 370/7/4/3

Retry the race to keep the Restart Lineup, or Save and Reset

Day 4: Tsukuba, Weight 1 -44, Pace is Steady
Win the race, 5000 Cr., Credits: 10348
8.218 MOV, Time 3'59.942
B-spec 400/8/5/3

Retry the race to keep the Restart Lineup
Change the Weight to 1 at -45

Day 5: Tsukuba, Weight 1 -45, Cruise
Win the race, 5000 Cr., Credits: 15348
2.757 MOV, Time 4'04.760
B-spec 417/8/5/3

Retry the race to keep the Restart Lineup

Day 6: Tsukuba, Weight 1 -45, Fast
Win the race, 5000 Cr., Credits: 20348
8.440 MOV, Time 4'00.298
B-spec 425/9/5/3

Retry the race to keep the Restart Lineup

Day 7: Tsukuba, Weight 1 -45, Fast
Win the race, 5000 Cr., Credits: 25348
8.195 MOV, Time 4'00.163
B-spec 435/9/5/3

Goto GT Auto, Wheel Shop
Day 8: Buy some nice looking wheels for 500 Cr. Credits=24848.

Notes on Choices: I don't think it matters which wheels, wings, or colors are selected. For this collection, I'm going with a white vehicle theme, and installing the yellow Yokohama 024 wheels as Team Wheels for every vehicle which provides a choice. For the Clio I prefer the 3D Type BW Wing, no other wings are installed. Also, I don't think it matters if the car is clean (new), washed, or dirty.

Change the Weight back to 1 at -44
Save and Reset to fix the Restart Lineup

* Restart Lineup should be the same as listed for the Beginner Course on Day 2

Goto the Beginner Events, Lightweight K Cup, Tsukuba

Day 9: Tsukuba, Weight 1 -44, Fast
Win the race, 2000 Cr., Credits: 26348
3.484 MOV, Time 4'00.877
B-spec 442/9/5/3

Change the Weight back to 1 at -45
Save and Reset to fix the Restart Lineup

Goto the Beginner Events, Lightweight K Cup, Motorland

Day 10: Motorland, Weight 1 -45, Steady
Win the race, 2000 Cr., Credits: 28348
1.758 MOV, Time 3'48.435
B-spec 455/9/5/4

Day 11: Prize Car Delivered: Ginetta G4 '64 (used for A-2 collection)

Change the Oil for 50 Cr.
Wash the Car for 50 Cr.
^washing usually means this vehicle will not be used again

Credits=28748



The next step is to fix up the Triumph Spitfire to finish off the A-1 points, but I'm too tired tonight so I'll work on this some more tomorrow. The credits balance dips to 398 after the Triumph is fully tuned, but gets as lows as 228 after buying all the parts for the Clio. Still, there's just enough to buy custom wheels for each car, and there isn't a need to skimp on oil or car washes.

Other Restart Lineups used:

Europe Classic Car League
1 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 '65
2 Fiat 500F '65
3 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale '63
4 Lotus Elan S1 '62
5 VW Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) '68
6 Ginetta G4 '64

Legends of the Silver Arrow
1 Mercedes E 55 AMG '02
2 Mercedes 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evoll '91
3 Mercedes SLK 230 Kompressor '98
4 Mercedes CLK 55 AMG '00
5 Mercedes SLR McLaren '03
6 Mercedes SL 65 AMG (230) '04

Deutsche Touring Car Meisterschaft
1 Mercedes E 55 AMG '02
2 Mercedes 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evoll '91
3 Mercedes SLK 230 Kompressor '98
4 Mercedes CLK 55 AMG '00
5 Mercedes SLR McLaren '03
6 Mercedes SL 65 AMG (230) '04

 

[SportWagon]

Why do you buy rims? So you can pick your car out in replays against identical competitors? I suppose it also uses up a day, helping to unlock tracks faster.

Are you reasonably sure the day used, and/or the purchase itself, will not affect what lineups will appear?