I am very angry about the fact that drifting is getting popular just because of Tokyo Drift. Don't worry I am still addicted to drifting but there is going to be some ****heads having no idea what they are doing driving around in EK Civics trying to drift but instead crashing into cars and buildings and because I live in Australia my country is going to be filled with commodores drivers thinking they can drift but instead crashing into the wall.
Bad things are going to happen because of Tokyo Drift
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I don't like drifting, but I know exactly what you mean.
I did happen to see some kid, in a 240SX, non-turbo, (of course), pull into a parking lot, when we were getting hit by the hurricane a few weeks ago,(I guess he needed water to "drift") it's pouring out, and 2 kids jump out, and start pulling at something in the wheel well, checking the wheel out, and tires.
Not the rear wheel, mind you, but the front. that sums it up. he was drifting, and couldnt even spin out, he plowed like a dumptruck.
course, it's people like that, that made me not like drifting in the first place, aside from other things.
I did happen to see some kid, in a 240SX, non-turbo, (of course), pull into a parking lot, when we were getting hit by the hurricane a few weeks ago,(I guess he needed water to "drift") it's pouring out, and 2 kids jump out, and start pulling at something in the wheel well, checking the wheel out, and tires.
Not the rear wheel, mind you, but the front. that sums it up. he was drifting, and couldnt even spin out, he plowed like a dumptruck.
course, it's people like that, that made me not like drifting in the first place, aside from other things.
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But have you guys looked at the Tokio Drift movie? well it's sure all of you saw the trailer, a little bit unrealistic isn't it? like the way the two car drift to another floor of a parking lot, 2mm between the car and the walls, ow I hate that unrealistic bull****, why not make a realistic tuning movie for a change...
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Yeah, it's so unrealistic that Rhys Millen actually did that stunt. You know, for real.
To the thread starter...
Why whine about people drifting because of Tokyo Drift? You're just as bad as people who whined about the original F&F. Face it, the Fast & Furious movies did more for the tuner culture than anyone gives them credit for - If it weren't for these movies, you wouldn't have as many safe venues for racing, you wouldn't have as many different companies making as many parts, and you wouldn't have as many people to enjoy the sport with.
So to sum it up, quit crying like a baby because you think that you're cool because you liked drifting before it was "mainstream".
hey i did like it before it was mainstream and i do think that the F&TF 1&2 were cool and they did a lot for the tuner culture but unlike racing drifting is not just something you can just do. you need to at the least play gran turismo or some other proper simulator to learn the basics of drifting before you consider even thinking about drifting
Sorry, autofail.
Gran Turismo is nothing at all like real drifting.
Btw, Rhys didn't just do the parking lot ramp drift, he did it over and over and over again to get the shot just right.
The only thing I see happening badly from the movie is the price of used japanese RWD coupes and various other cars in the movie getting even MORE stupidly inflated...dammit.
Gran Turismo is nothing at all like real drifting.
Btw, Rhys didn't just do the parking lot ramp drift, he did it over and over and over again to get the shot just right.
The only thing I see happening badly from the movie is the price of used japanese RWD coupes and various other cars in the movie getting even MORE stupidly inflated...dammit.
Violent films don't cause violence but they make people think of different ways of causing violence. besides car movies do make people think about racing but drifting is harder than racing so when an 18 year old goes to see Tokyo Drift which makes drifting look really easy he'll think he can drift and then cradh into something
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You CAN edit your posts you know... Do not make multiple successive posts.
The idiots likely to kill people after watching someone do it in a movie are idiots who are likely to kill someone someday anyway.
The people likely to go out wakeboarding after watching someone do it in a movie are people who are interested in wakeboarding anyway.
The fools likely to drift in traffic after watching someone do it in a movie are fools who drive like complete tosspots anyway.
It's not cause & effect (watch film, do film) - I've yet to shoot someone in the face, but I've seen Jack Bauer do it lots of times.
The idiots likely to kill people after watching someone do it in a movie are idiots who are likely to kill someone someday anyway.
The people likely to go out wakeboarding after watching someone do it in a movie are people who are interested in wakeboarding anyway.
The fools likely to drift in traffic after watching someone do it in a movie are fools who drive like complete tosspots anyway.
It's not cause & effect (watch film, do film) - I've yet to shoot someone in the face, but I've seen Jack Bauer do it lots of times.
i never said they people who watch violent shows go and kill people but for example if someone raped another person and they found out were the rapist lived and wanted revenge. if they watched Saw or something they would probably use things like that to make them suffer (sorry about this example it is pretty dark)
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I've only watched the first F&F and didn't like it. I was maybe 17 or so at the time and already thought it was full of mistakes. I guess it serves as entertainment, but I also understand why purist get pissed off about it.
As for Tokyo Drifts I know a few guys that saw it and besides the usual BS we have to deal with something that you English native speakers don't: Subtitles.
They told that when the AE86 reference occurs the subtitles show: É um Corolla de 86" wich translates into: "It's an 1986 Corolla."
As for Tokyo Drifts I know a few guys that saw it and besides the usual BS we have to deal with something that you English native speakers don't: Subtitles.
They told that when the AE86 reference occurs the subtitles show: É um Corolla de 86" wich translates into: "It's an 1986 Corolla."
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Tak 121
Utter, utter cack.
As Famine has already said this is not a cause and effect situation. If someone is predisposed to carry out and act then a film/book/TV show MAY (and a big may at that) act as a trigger, but the chances are the person in question would eventually carry out the act with or without the trigger.
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I read a few posts of this until I got to the stuff about violent films causing violence and then I stopped. I don't think you guys get it.
Violent films do not cause great numbers of people to be violent. That's a fact. No one saw terminator and started killing people. NO ONE.
The F and F series has set off a dangerous chain of events because there are stupid teenage jackasses going out and trying this stuff in dangerous situations. I'm not saying don't street race because we have all done it. Well all of us old enough to drive, but what is going on today and the deaths that you read about in the paper due to street racing are directly influenced from the F and F movies.
Now, the F and Fs did have a positive to the tuner world. We did get a lot of reckognition, parts, and even cars because of this. However saying that the tuner marketplace exist because of those movies is dumb. Long before many of you were old enough to drive people my age and older were tuning cars. This started with my grandfathers generation not mine and not yours. Whether the fast n furious movies existed I would be into tuning/showing cars. I have been a car nut since I was five and "helped" my dad work on some old American muscle in our basement and guys like me are a dime a dozen. So don't overstate the importance of the f and f movies.
Tokyo drift pissed me off too. I haven't seen it. I'm not going to unless it comes on tv. There are already too many young people with no respect for others, themselves, or life out there acting dumb. This movie will only increase that. If you thought kids going fast in a straight line was dangerous, just wait until they try and go sideways.
If you can't see the negitive of these movies you are either to young to have sense enough to know how dangerous this is, or you are a wanna be drifter street racer.
Violent films do not cause great numbers of people to be violent. That's a fact. No one saw terminator and started killing people. NO ONE.
The F and F series has set off a dangerous chain of events because there are stupid teenage jackasses going out and trying this stuff in dangerous situations. I'm not saying don't street race because we have all done it. Well all of us old enough to drive, but what is going on today and the deaths that you read about in the paper due to street racing are directly influenced from the F and F movies.
Now, the F and Fs did have a positive to the tuner world. We did get a lot of reckognition, parts, and even cars because of this. However saying that the tuner marketplace exist because of those movies is dumb. Long before many of you were old enough to drive people my age and older were tuning cars. This started with my grandfathers generation not mine and not yours. Whether the fast n furious movies existed I would be into tuning/showing cars. I have been a car nut since I was five and "helped" my dad work on some old American muscle in our basement and guys like me are a dime a dozen. So don't overstate the importance of the f and f movies.
Tokyo drift pissed me off too. I haven't seen it. I'm not going to unless it comes on tv. There are already too many young people with no respect for others, themselves, or life out there acting dumb. This movie will only increase that. If you thought kids going fast in a straight line was dangerous, just wait until they try and go sideways.
If you can't see the negitive of these movies you are either to young to have sense enough to know how dangerous this is, or you are a wanna be drifter street racer.
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Ima have to agree with Dreamer with what he said, exception on the F&F series setting off dangerous chains of events. Street racing has been around before the movie and so has drifting. It just hypes up the activities and those that are dumb enough go out and do it in unsafe manners. Have I street raced, but I'd rather stick to the track where there's more people to see what you can do, along with your friends. For myself I have always been into cars, yet the F&F series didn't get me into the import/tuner scene, it was the Super Street issue I picked up in 1996 which would distract me from my classes in 6th grade, and similar mags til this day(I got the 1996/7 year's subscription, which I need to get all the issues back from a friend 
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The good thing about movie is that there is only one AE86 in it.The world becamed "Initialized" and the car prices went up,up and more up,if the movie featured more ae86's...where is the end of it?Drifting is going to be popular,and probably on a bad voice @ the cops,beacuse of the new wannabe drifters people,that will do that on the streets,and cops and probably the most of the citizens will think that drifting is something bad,and something that could get you killed(it is true though),i would say,leave drifting for the pro's and do drift practice on the secured areas(closed parking lots and race tracks).
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Whoa that's cool, I never knew that. Thought it was a bit far-fetched in the trailer.
Tak 121
Watch it
Overall I do agree on both sides - Tak is right, it will encourage a minority of people to go out there and try this stuff in unsafe places and show off, but I also agree that it isn't going to turn most normal kids into wannabe drifters.
Seems like the answer to that is no - did you know enlistment always increases whenever there's a popular military movie? (like, Pearl Harbor or my personal favorite, A Few Good Men)Famine
The thing is, there's a difference between enlisting and surfing and violence, that it doesn't seem that people will take that step to violence. Or drifting.
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Sorry to be off-topic, but:
'Pearl Harbor' debuted just before 9/11, and 'A Few Good Men' arrived after what was shown on TV as a quick, easy victory in Iraq.
'Platoon' sure didn't grab any new enlisted men, but that wasn't exactly a pro-Army movie. 'The Green Berets' -- with John Wayne, no less -- premiered in 1968, when draft card burning was probably at it's peak. 'Tora Tora Tora' re-enacted Pearl Harbor, but it, too, was a victim of the late 60's (er, 1970). Some would say that 'All Quiet on the Western Front' (1930) helped encourage the feeling of non-interference leading up to WWII. 'Guns of Navarone', fantastic 1961 movie, was a wash at best.
True catalysts of events where large masses of people are concerened are near-impossible to pin down. The best example is the economy: Was it Reagan or Clinton that gave us the late 90's boom?
Slightly more on topic: people like to make anything a scapegoat. Son of Sam blamed the neighbor's dog, who supposedly carried on some interesting conversations. Like Famine said, idiots are idiots, monkey see monkey do, but only if that person has the IQ of a monkey.
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'Pearl Harbor' debuted just before 9/11, and 'A Few Good Men' arrived after what was shown on TV as a quick, easy victory in Iraq.
'Platoon' sure didn't grab any new enlisted men, but that wasn't exactly a pro-Army movie. 'The Green Berets' -- with John Wayne, no less -- premiered in 1968, when draft card burning was probably at it's peak. 'Tora Tora Tora' re-enacted Pearl Harbor, but it, too, was a victim of the late 60's (er, 1970). Some would say that 'All Quiet on the Western Front' (1930) helped encourage the feeling of non-interference leading up to WWII. 'Guns of Navarone', fantastic 1961 movie, was a wash at best.
True catalysts of events where large masses of people are concerened are near-impossible to pin down. The best example is the economy: Was it Reagan or Clinton that gave us the late 90's boom?
Slightly more on topic: people like to make anything a scapegoat. Son of Sam blamed the neighbor's dog, who supposedly carried on some interesting conversations. Like Famine said, idiots are idiots, monkey see monkey do, but only if that person has the IQ of a monkey.
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Okay okay, lets reel this one back in for a moment...
I think it is pretty well known what my position is on drifiting, as I think it is a rather silly sport that doesn't do much other than show off how you can quasi-spin your car out. We do it for six-months in Michigan, get over it...
Anyway, back to my point, F&F does indeed have it's positives and negatives in car culture today. I'll start with the good:
- It "jumpstarted" the auto industry into caring about the economy car once again
- It increased the emphasis on high-performance parts for all-models
- It helped create an all-new generation of automotive fans
The bad:
- It has created a sub-culture full of rather stupid sports, styles and attitudes
- It created a flood of aftermarket parts for EVERY car. (Thanks APC!!!)
- It introduced many automotive fans to cars in the wrong way, IMO. No longer is the Lamborghini Countach worshiped, but the Honda Civic instead.
I may not completely agree with everything F&F has done for the industry, nor do I care much for the "Street Fury" type folks who walk the streets and think they are better than anyone else. But, this is America, and they can do as they please, stupid as it is...
I think it is pretty well known what my position is on drifiting, as I think it is a rather silly sport that doesn't do much other than show off how you can quasi-spin your car out. We do it for six-months in Michigan, get over it...
Anyway, back to my point, F&F does indeed have it's positives and negatives in car culture today. I'll start with the good:
- It "jumpstarted" the auto industry into caring about the economy car once again
- It increased the emphasis on high-performance parts for all-models
- It helped create an all-new generation of automotive fans
The bad:
- It has created a sub-culture full of rather stupid sports, styles and attitudes
- It created a flood of aftermarket parts for EVERY car. (Thanks APC!!!)
- It introduced many automotive fans to cars in the wrong way, IMO. No longer is the Lamborghini Countach worshiped, but the Honda Civic instead.
I may not completely agree with everything F&F has done for the industry, nor do I care much for the "Street Fury" type folks who walk the streets and think they are better than anyone else. But, this is America, and they can do as they please, stupid as it is...
harrytuttle
Yeah but actually I heard that statistic about enlistment going up for military movies about a week after Pearl Harbor came out, in May 2001. In fact, I didn't even make the connection until after I had hear that stat. 9/11 nad nothing to do with that, chief. A Few Good Men came out in late 1992 so you're wrong there.
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