Beginner altezza cup
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uhhhhhhhhh If you're good enough i'm pretty sure you CAN win it with a stocker....... but if you don't think so, just go for suspension mods n 2, maybe 3 hp mods 
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I tried to race other altezas, but it seems that they are suped up a little bit, anyway i could not win with my stock alteza, they get away from you too fast 
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OT- Do you ever sign on your icq? i am from coquitlam btwOriginally posted by halfracedrift
uhhhhhhhhh If you're good enough i'm pretty sure you CAN win it with a stocker....... but if you don't think so, just go for suspension mods n 2, maybe 3 hp mods
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lol what you smokin man?Originally posted by ving
OT?
OT!!!!
OMG WTF BS not OT!!!!!
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i had a 1 stage turbo lol
they proly bought a 2 stage turbo
i will try again in 10 minutes, we will see how those punks do this time lol
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- DerAlta
Fresh:
One thing that the IA cars have is the absolute perfect launch. In your settings, on the last page, adjust your ASM to 0, and set your TCS to 1.
Traction Control System limits how much power your car will use so as to limit wheel spin. This will slow your launch considerably.
ASM will help you when your car starts to spin, as it is uses each brake indivually to conteract your car spining. However, when you go into a turn a bit out of control (and can save it) the ASM kciks in slowing you considerably. Turning off ASM will improve your cornering.
After that, I'd look at tires. If the other cars are launching faster than you, you may be losing traction.
And remember the only winner is the one who crosses the finish line first. Unlike Nascar, you don't get points for being in the lead. So if your not leading at the beginning, you've got 3 laps to get in the lead. Can you eventually catch up to them through better driving skills?
Good luck, and tell us how it comes out.
AO
One thing that the IA cars have is the absolute perfect launch. In your settings, on the last page, adjust your ASM to 0, and set your TCS to 1.
Traction Control System limits how much power your car will use so as to limit wheel spin. This will slow your launch considerably.
ASM will help you when your car starts to spin, as it is uses each brake indivually to conteract your car spining. However, when you go into a turn a bit out of control (and can save it) the ASM kciks in slowing you considerably. Turning off ASM will improve your cornering.
After that, I'd look at tires. If the other cars are launching faster than you, you may be losing traction.
And remember the only winner is the one who crosses the finish line first. Unlike Nascar, you don't get points for being in the lead. So if your not leading at the beginning, you've got 3 laps to get in the lead. Can you eventually catch up to them through better driving skills?
Good luck, and tell us how it comes out.
AO
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- GTP_Duke
Yes, indeed. I was about to suggest this when I saw Gil had beaten me to it. In addition to what he said, I'll also suggest T2s as a start for any upgrade.
The Altezza has a decent chassis and reasonable (though modest) power, but two things are working against it.
1) Body roll. The stock Altezza is soft soft soft. Skip the sport and half-race suspension, and go straight to the full-race. You'll want it for the Amateur level anyway. Lower it most of the way, double the spring rates, and try the race again on the T2 tires.
2) Gearing. The stock gearing is fairly tall and widely spaced. Before adding any power, add the full-race transmission and tinker the ratios a bit.
These two plus super slicks should get you through the Beginner level. For the amateur, go to lightweight, and full NA tune. The car is a blast to drive that way.
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I'll take 50hp less if its NA power rather than turbo power.
Although sometimes NA's can get pretty grunty. i.e. Softop Miata with 350hp NA, feels like its got a big block chevy crate engine under the hood.
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neon duke: you are over doing it with the upgrades dood!
to win the bebinners in a rs all u need is a racing flywheel and semi-racing suspension. Anf to win amatuers add a NA stage 1 and medium race tires. you should never need higher than stage 1 NA upgrade and racing suspension is a waste unless you are using the car for another series other than the 2 altezza ones. also not required to win is a full racing tranny. waste of money. standard tranny will get u thru both
do not over-upgrade! it will take the fun out of it.
what i have sujested will make amatuers really interesting. u wont winn all races but should win the series comfortably
to win the bebinners in a rs all u need is a racing flywheel and semi-racing suspension. Anf to win amatuers add a NA stage 1 and medium race tires. you should never need higher than stage 1 NA upgrade and racing suspension is a waste unless you are using the car for another series other than the 2 altezza ones. also not required to win is a full racing tranny. waste of money. standard tranny will get u thru both
do not over-upgrade! it will take the fun out of it.
what i have sujested will make amatuers really interesting. u wont winn all races but should win the series comfortably
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they will tune to match (in most cases) your car. So there fore small upgrades on your car = small upgrades on thiers
admittedly when i did the amatuer series thismorning I found that they got away on the straights but because i had tweeked the suspension good and had the stability control at 1 i was able to out corner them
that said tho I didnt win all races, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 3rd, 1st... in that order. And because all the cars were the same I was able to win ou=n outright points cause although the lead pack were all close, they were all equally matched and came different places each time.
the only track i had a comanding lead on (and it was a runnaway vis=ctory) was cote cause on lap 5 of seven when i finaly got the lead, the car behind me crashed and held up the traffic and so i won by 10 secs
admittedly when i did the amatuer series thismorning I found that they got away on the straights but because i had tweeked the suspension good and had the stability control at 1 i was able to out corner them
that said tho I didnt win all races, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 3rd, 1st... in that order. And because all the cars were the same I was able to win ou=n outright points cause although the lead pack were all close, they were all equally matched and came different places each time.
the only track i had a comanding lead on (and it was a runnaway vis=ctory) was cote cause on lap 5 of seven when i finaly got the lead, the car behind me crashed and held up the traffic and so i won by 10 secs
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I know it sounds stupid, but qualify. Even starting 60 ft in front of the rest will help you out a lot. Plus, then you've got the course stuck in your head/hands, so you should remember your best lines for turns and such. I know I'm having problems on the Amature, that's pretty difficult for me, since I suck at this game(just picked it up off of a few months of rest.) I'm thinking of actually tuning my transmission, other than just the basic levels for the full trans, but I'm not willing to use the Turbo3 yet, I need to save all I can from my 90k in my pocket.
Duke
Duke and Der Alta...thank you!!!! You've opened up a whole new way for me to tackle GT3...before I struggled, but after making those adjustments (Altezza or otherwise) the game is going much smoother for me!! Kudos!!
on the other side, it would be beter if u send a vid for us to look on your driving techniques. if it is a beginner level, there should be no problem with a level 1 NA, no weight reduction and hard slick tyres (full transmiission upgrade). it would be harder on mateur section since the cars are more aggressive and u need to lead the poll position during the qualification. that is very important.
tekong
No need. After making the adjustments (amatuer level) it was smooth sailing. I never lost 1st position throughout the five races and finished off amatuer level last night and now concentrating on Professional -- and I didn't even have to qualify!!
Thanks for the advice though!!
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- GTP_Duke
I'm glad to hear things are working out! Der Alta and I actually have good advice for most people - NOT BECAUSE WE'RE SMART - but because neither of us are particularly fast drivers in the Gran Turismo world. So if we say it can be done with a given setup, we mean that it can be done by almost anybody that way - no superhuman driving skills are necessary, because we ain't got 'em. Plus, we both like a nice close race, so we're not likely to recommend overkill for the upgrades.
I'm glad to hear you did the Altezza series without qualifying, too. I always prefer to work my way up through traffic instead. Good luck with the rest of GT3!
I'm glad to hear you did the Altezza series without qualifying, too. I always prefer to work my way up through traffic instead. Good luck with the rest of GT3!
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- Parnelli_Bones
Here is what I typically use...you really don't need full-custom parts in the Beginner's at all
Midfield: @208 hp
Tokyo R246: @227 hp
Deep Forest: @220 hp
SS Route 5: @254 hp
Seattle: @244 hp (Q) 254 (R)
Oddly, these races are incredibly competitive for the Beginner's League + you don't earn much dough. Why are all the other make & model races so easy? I did the Altezza series in a Lexus IS200 and used a combination of Stage 1 turbo, sports, semi-racing, or racing muffler, and computer to achieve the power above but you can use either car, as long as the power falls within the guidelines above.
The Altezza winds up being more cost-effective here, tho it's initially pricier: you'll only need semi-racing muffler, computer, & stage 1 NA tune to achieve what's up above. I also recommend sports suspension in all races and sports tires in all races except Midfield--you can use stock there. A 1.5 LSD is good to limit spins (these cars love to spin in tight corners. Agh) Recommended but not necessary: sports flywheel and single-plate clutch.
I should also add that I don't use traction devices or stability.
Midfield: @208 hp
Tokyo R246: @227 hp
Deep Forest: @220 hp
SS Route 5: @254 hp
Seattle: @244 hp (Q) 254 (R)
Oddly, these races are incredibly competitive for the Beginner's League + you don't earn much dough. Why are all the other make & model races so easy? I did the Altezza series in a Lexus IS200 and used a combination of Stage 1 turbo, sports, semi-racing, or racing muffler, and computer to achieve the power above but you can use either car, as long as the power falls within the guidelines above.
The Altezza winds up being more cost-effective here, tho it's initially pricier: you'll only need semi-racing muffler, computer, & stage 1 NA tune to achieve what's up above. I also recommend sports suspension in all races and sports tires in all races except Midfield--you can use stock there. A 1.5 LSD is good to limit spins (these cars love to spin in tight corners. Agh) Recommended but not necessary: sports flywheel and single-plate clutch.
I should also add that I don't use traction devices or stability.
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