Beginners Guide: Useful Tips & Advice to help first timers.

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Rayray625
I'd just like to thank all the guys contributing useful advice here, In the last couple of weeks i've gone from useless at drifting with a G27 to earning 20,000 points on Autumn Ring last night in my newly aquired S13 :)

To begin with i couldn't drift for toffee with CH tyres but now its slowly coming together 👍

To those who think its impossible, Stick at it, it will make sense in the end 👍
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Glad we could help out :) 👍
 
Sorry for the lack of updating guys/girls, things have been a bit hetic the past few days, lol. Will do a write-up later on for those who want to learn how to tandem. :)
 
BkS
Sorry for the lack of updating guys/girls, things have been a bit hetic the past few days, lol. Will do a write-up later on for those who want to learn how to tandem. :)
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Dont worry BKS. We can wait patiently :)

Great write up so far. Can't wait for the advanced techniques.

Keep it up! 👍
 
Right, still kind of side-tracked here. I'll try get some sort of write-up done between today and tuesday. 👍
 
I'm new to drifting and I'm glad this thread is here to help me out.
Is it better to learn to drift on a dirt track? I can get my car sideways when doing rally events and have decent control, but I struggle to consistently do that on asphalt (which probably has to do with the lack of a good tune).
 
sniper338
I'm new to drifting and I'm glad this thread is here to help me out.
Is it better to learn to drift on a dirt track? I can get my car sideways when doing rally events and have decent control, but I struggle to consistently do that on asphalt (which probably has to do with the lack of a good tune).
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Yes/No. As much as it teaches you about throttle control / how to balance the car, I would far more recommend you try learning to drift on a track in WET conditions. This way, you can learn with low power, but also build up your experience. It takes for more concentration and skill to drift in WET conditions than it does in DRY conditions.
 
sniper338
I'm new to drifting and I'm glad this thread is here to help me out.
Is it better to learn to drift on a dirt track? I can get my car sideways when doing rally events and have decent control, but I struggle to consistently do that on asphalt (which probably has to do with the lack of a good tune).
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No it's not gonna help you as the gravel makes you slip already while the road is more sticky. The wet track advise may work, but I just took my RUF tune out on a wet track and it was a million times harder and different to drifting plus since the track is wet the tires dint actually loose grip from over spinning and burning up they just can't get traction at all. Best idea is read these tips than come to my garage (click drift garage sig) and choose a car. I also have tips just not as detailed but talk more towards my tunes and drift in general
 
Ok thanks for the tips, I can slide around corners alright every now and then but nothing regularly. I tried the first tip... going to a manual transmission and that made a TON of difference, it's just figuring out the buttons on a small DS3 . I'll keep reading and applying you information and hopefully I'll get results. Thanks again for the help :dopey:
 

So this is me trying to drift with g25 i can drift well with ds3 and have competed several times but as you can see it supports most things bks says
 
I know this is not really a Drifting question. How do people go in circles around a car but have the wheel turned the opposite direction the whole time? Everytime I try I spin out. :scared:
 
samie57
I know this is not really a Drifting question. How do people go in circles around a car but have the wheel turned the opposite direction the whole time? Everytime I try I spin out. :scared:
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All about throttle control
 
What speeds do you usually drift at? I'm using an M5 and I'm usually going around 60-75 mph when entering a corner in 3rd gear. Is that okay?
 
Super useful, thanks. I started (trying) drifting with a DFP, had some trouble at first. Picked up the controller and learned a lot faster.

I blame the slow FF motor on the pro. It caused me to have to muscle the wheel back to neutral instead, which took too long and i could never exit a drift right. Getting a DFGT in the future.
 
Willfred_1
So this is me trying to drift with g25 i can drift well with ds3 and have competed several times but as you can see it supports most things bks says
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Looks like your springs are a little soft for the wheel, might wanna try stiffen them up a little, and you don't have to come completely off the gas, just about half way and use the e-brake to correct yourself. Looks like your slightly under-powered as well.
 
Incanitee
What speeds do you usually drift at? I'm using an M5 and I'm usually going around 60-75 mph when entering a corner in 3rd gear. Is that okay?
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Anything around 60-85 MPH, is about normal. Only time I can think of that you would be slightly higher than this is in an extremely powerful V8 American muscle with grippy tires or when doing early initiations / backward entries.
 
I'm trying to tune out a corner entry understeer issue
03 M3 GTR
generally aiming for 3rd gear entries at around 100kmh (60mph)

i can get it nicely sideways at the angle i want with any technique (usually feint/scando or just turn sharply and get off the gas)

but i have a lot of issues keeping the car to the inside of the corner, it just has a tendency to drift itself off the road, or very wide
I've tried all combinations of higher and lower damper and spring settings at both ends of the car
more or less front and rear camber, stabilisers, etc
running N2 tyres
sensible ride height, no bottoming out
lower speed does help but also makes the drift harder to maintain
dropping the spring rates to allow more weight transferr onto the front tyres doesn;t really help, it just increases snap oversteer when the weight shifts from side to side

my only real option left if stickier tyres, but i'm only running it at 400bhp

other thoughts?
 
BkS
Anything around 60-85 MPH, is about normal. Only time I can think of that you would be slightly higher than this is in an extremely powerful V8 American muscle with grippy tires or when doing early initiations / backward entries.
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Awesome, I was worried because everything I've seen on here it looks like they're going much faster than what I am. This thread has helped me quite a bit, thanks, BkS!
 
Robbks
I'm trying to tune out a corner entry understeer issue
03 M3 GTR
generally aiming for 3rd gear entries at around 100kmh (60mph)

i can get it nicely sideways at the angle i want with any technique (usually feint/scando or just turn sharply and get off the gas)

but i have a lot of issues keeping the car to the inside of the corner, it just has a tendency to drift itself off the road, or very wide
I've tried all combinations of higher and lower damper and spring settings at both ends of the car
more or less front and rear camber, stabilisers, etc
running N2 tyres
sensible ride height, no bottoming out
lower speed does help but also makes the drift harder to maintain
dropping the spring rates to allow more weight transferr onto the front tyres doesn;t really help, it just increases snap oversteer when the weight shifts from side to side

my only real option left if stickier tyres, but i'm only running it at 400bhp

other thoughts?
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Try using a ballast aimed towards the back of the car, that should help even out the weight. I've found toe can be a problem with understeer as well. How much toe are you running?
 
Incanitee
Awesome, I was worried because everything I've seen on here it looks like they're going much faster than what I am. This thread has helped me quite a bit, thanks, BkS!
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Glad I could help buddy! 👍
 
Good work here Bks ;)
You guys should count yourself lucky he's doing all this, when we started drifting it was all trial and error to see what works :D
 
BkS
Try using a ballast aimed towards the back of the car, that should help even out the weight. I've found toe can be a problem with understeer as well. How much toe are you running?
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0 toe all round

yeah, haven't played around with ballast much at all, i guess getting more weight to the rear will help get the weight distribution closer to 50-50 and prevent the heavier front from pushing the car wide...
 

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