Borderlands 2

[MeanElf]

It still hasn't arrived in the EU PS Store...strange that it has appeared everywhere else, so nothing technical is holding it up.

 

[MeanElf]

HH5: Son of Crawmerax is now on the EU PS Store.

 

[TJ13]

I am gonna find out soon. If I can...then I am gonna do some serious farming. If not...I am gonna need to get a Fibber, but I gotta grind before I try and get another Fibber...

Edit: Wow. It's better than I expected: You can farm him without even saving and quitting. Just leave the map and rejoin and you can kill him and get loot from the train over and over.

Can you still farm him, or is it a one time deal now?
Just got the GOTY version for the ps3, given I can do more with people there than on the pc.

Edit: Managed to convert my PC save to PS3 so I can continue on if I want but more or less getting the weapons I have over to my new char.

 

[sesselpupser]

I tried to play again last week, I was apparently using my level 54 Siren in the Wildlife Preserve. I suck now. I desperately want to get back into the game but picking it up in hard mode after forgetting everything I knew is proving to be quite challenging. There was so much stuff I never got to do, and after 600 hours in the vanilla game and season pass content I think it'd be a shame if I didn't get all my characters to level 72 at least (so far I've only capped Krieg) and fight all of the headhunter bosses, and that's still ignoring Digistruct Peak, which I also obviously want to do. And I still haven't farmed any bosses except... Er, the guy who drops The Bee. I haven't felt the need to, though, but I guess it would make sense to get to the top level before farming anything properly.

 

[Daniel]

Currently waiting on the Vita version to be released. I have it pre-ordered and ready to be picked up whenever it releases. :tup: I don't usually have the time to play anymore due to uni constraints, but having the ability to play on the bus to uni, or on break while at work would be pretty awesome!

 

[sesselpupser]

@Daniel hmm, the Vita version you say... I'd be interested if it would be possible to get my PC saves to the Vita and back again without too much hassle, but I'd be surprised if that's the case. I imagine I could port them to PS3 easily enough then use the cross-save feature to copy them to the Vita, but a) how long would that process take and b) would I lose any DLC weapons if I don't have all the DLC for the Vita (potentially also PS3) version?

Anyway, I might take back what I said before. I played again today, I got to level 57, found a Butcher (corrosive, which is excellent because I needed a good corrosive weapon for Opportunity) and yeah, I'm generally doing ok again. I fell right back into the groove after the first hour or so.

 

[Daniel]

The Vita game comes with six DLC packs:

• Captain Scarlett and Her Pirate's Booty
• Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage
• Psycho Class
• Mechromancer classes
• Ultimate Vault Hunter's Upgrade
• Collector's Edition packs.

Depends if your DLC is one of those. If not, I have no idea what's gonna happen.

It's necessary to point out that the game is nowhere near the quality of the PC version (let alone console version). The frames can drop often in big battles (although enabling flight mode can fix this), you can only play with one other person online, there are less enemies thanks to processing limitations and what enemies are left simply explode and their bodies disappear. The loot and difficulty is the same as the console version, though.

 

[TJ13]

The Vita game comes with six DLC packs:

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  • Captain Scarlett and Her Pirate's Booty
  • Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage
  • Psycho Class
  • Mechromancer classes
  • Ultimate Vault Hunter's Upgrade
  • Collector's Edition packs.

Depends if your DLC is one of those. If not, I have no idea what's gonna happen.
It's necessary to point out that the game is nowhere near the quality of the PC version (let alone console version). The frames can drop often in big battles (although enabling flight mode can fix this), you can only play with one other person online, there are less enemies thanks to processing limitations and what enemies are left simply explode and their bodies disappear. The loot and difficulty is the same as the console version, though.

Just to add, You can play your Vita save on the PS3 and vice versa.

“If you have PS3 DLC items that aren’t part of Vita package, they won’t be useable in the Vita version. However you won’t lose those items and they will be waiting for you when you return to PS3. Vita level capped at 61 (via DLC), so if you come over from a PS3 as a 72, you will stay a 72 but you won’t gain XP and back to PS3 as 72.”

@neema_t For the PC to vita, would have to go through a bunch of hoops to get it however it's not impossible.
I managed to convert my PC save to the PS3.

 

[MeanElf]

Damn, UVHM is way tougher when playing solo - in fact, I can't really get off the Southern Shelf. I realise that it's best played in MP but there aren't too many games out there online.

I'll just have to wait for my wife to get her current favourite character upto the same level and go through it together.

 

[sesselpupser]

Damn, UVHM is way tougher when playing solo - in fact, I can't really get off the Southern Shelf. I realise that it's best played in MP but there aren't too many games out there online.

I'll just have to wait for my wife to get her current favourite character upto the same level and go through it together.

Yeah, it's really not easy. My advice would have been to go and do the Torgue DLC until you can farm for Torgue tokens, buy an Unkempt Harold, farm to get a Bee then start UVHM, but I think since you've started already you might not be able to farm for tokens now unless you skip straight to the Torgue DLC in UVHM (but it'll still be very difficult). The first time is really tough, if you're planning on doing it with other characters I strongly recommend that you use the stash to transfer gear you used but have outgrown so they have some stuff to get a head start with. Like right now my Gaige is level 51 and has five characters' worth of level 50+ legendaries and other good stuff, but that first run with Zer0 was bloody tough. I did complete it solo, though, so it can be done, but it becomes much, much easier if you save gear for your future characters.

One thing I've started doing since I picked the game up again is keeping my characters relatively close in level (except Krieg who is done) instead of picking one character and using them until I hit the cap. It feels less disheartening doing the same quest three times in a day instead of slogging my way through the entire game and having to go all the way back to the start again.

 

[MeanElf]

Thanks Neema - I have farmed Pyro Pete's Bar brawl mission #3 for tokens so far on normal and TVHM and ow have a Flakker for my troubles, which is pretty useful. I will be going for the Unkempt Harold next though, as shotguns tend to be limited by their clip size and reload frequency.

Like you, I'm aleady passing my golden key weapons down the chain, so Maya has a scatter of good weapons in hand and others waiting in the wings, as does Zero. I've yet to start any of the other characters, but I will try bringing them upto the same speed.

I think with Maya, I'll do both normal then TVHM before touching the DLC and so be ready for UVHM by lvl 50 instead of 56 which is what my Gunzerker started at.

Thanks again.

 

[sesselpupser]

I think with Maya, I'll do both normal then TVHM before touching the DLC and so be ready for UVHM by lvl 50 instead of 56 which is what my Gunzerker started at.

To be honest I don't know if that'll make much difference. UVHM scales to your level, so whether you start at level 50, 61 or 72, it will always be tough if you don't have OP gear to help you out, that is if you're playing solo. I was fortunate in that I had some great loot from having been sat at level 50 for a long time so I could (and did) give all of my characters a head start, without that I would've been playing co-op for probably the entire duration of UVHM.

My recommendation would probably be to start a game as Krieg. All he needs is a Law and Order plus any melee boosting skills. I used a level 50 Law and 61 Order until I hit 72 with Krieg since the special effects are all that really matter, only the melee boost of the shield needed upgrading. Sure, flying enemies really suck with a melee-only Krieg, but he makes short work of basically anything else and is really good fun to go rampaging around with. And Light the Fuse is an absolute godsend if you're sick of enemies playing hide and seek whenever you go into Fight for Your Life.

 

[MeanElf]

To be honest I don't know if that'll make much difference. UVHM scales to your level, so whether you start at level 50, 61 or 72, it will always be tough if you don't have OP gear to help you out, that is if you're playing solo...

Yeah, I was aware of the levelling and would be relying on all of the best hand-me-downs to start off with. I like the Krieg suggestion though. I saw someone in co-op as Krieg - odd as I don't yet have that DLC...but he did look formidible, even though the player wasn't that adept in how he played him, or the game for that matter.

 

[TJ13]

So I finished first playthrough, Did the warrior, got CC. Heh. Now probably going to do a bit of farming of the warrior to get some eridium, and upgrade.

 

[sesselpupser]

I just finished my 21st playthrough yesterday or the day before, I can't remember. My badass rank is almost at 80k, I want to try to get to 100k by the time I'm finished with the game. For now I think I'll just do DLCs at random with the five <lv72 characters I've got and see if I still have enthusiasm for the game when I'm finished with all that.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Trading in borderlands 2 tonight. I have been telling myself for a year or two that I would play it again, and haven't. So its getting traded in for someone else to enjoy. Such a great game.

 

[Blkout]

NECRO!

 

[MeanElf]

Trading in borderlands 2 tonight. I have been telling myself for a year or two that I would play it again, and haven't. So its getting traded in for someone else to enjoy. Such a great game.

I really never understand why anyone would trade in a game they enjoy, even if they don't play it currently - there is always the future. I also find it hard to believe that a BL2 thread only has twenty-two posts...

I have all three, loads of fun.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

I really never understand why anyone would trade in a game they enjoy, even if they don't play it currently - there is always the future. I also find it hard to believe that a BL2 thread only has twenty-two posts...

I have all three, loads of fun.

I have been telling myself for almost 2 straight years I would play the game again, and have not. So this entire time someone else could have been enjoying the game. No sense in keeping something that just takes up space and depreciates in value. I truly loved this game and actually voted it best game of 2012. Now someone else can enjoy a game that I have great memories with.

When Borderlands 3 comes to the X1, it will be a day 1 purchase.

 

[MeanElf]

...So this entire time someone else could have been enjoying the game...

...When Borderlands 3 comes to the X1, it will be a day 1 purchase.

Fair enough.

By BL3 do you mean the Pre-Sequel? Are you sure it'll come to the new-gen consoles because I seem to remember something about it staying with the old - and if not, there are no new BL titles currently in the planning.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Fair enough.

By BL3 do you mean the Pre-Sequel? Are you sure it'll come to the new-gen consoles because I seem to remember something about it staying with the old - and if not, there are no new BL titles currently in the planning.

No I mean Borderlands 3. I am sure that will be coming to the X1 and PS4 eventually.

Saying there wont be Borderlands is like saying there will not be any more Mario, Halo, COD, Gears Of War, Uncharted, or Killzone games. Its a successful franchise that I am sure will eventually be on the PS4 and X1. When it comes, it will be a day 1 purchase.

 

[MeanElf]

No I mean Borderlands 3. I am sure that will be coming to the X1 and PS4 eventually.

Yeah, I hope so too - Gearbox did apparently say that they weren't planning on going further though. Hopefully time and need will prove them wrong, eh?

 

[Grayfox]

Well they left BL2 with a major sequel ending.
Why wouldn't they make BL3.

BL is a huge game that makes them money.

It is like saying Epic games wont make any more Gears of War.

 

[sesselpupser]

Gearbox said they're pretty much done with Borderlands because they don't feel they can make a worthy sequel, but that doesn't mean no one else can. I'll try and find a source later, but Borderlands is a big deal for 2K so I'm sure they'll find someone to make another even if Gearbox don't want to do it themselves.

 

[MeanElf]

Yeah, it seems my info was slightly skewed and it isn't that they don't want to, but haven't any plans for the foreseeable future - so apologies all for my propogating the wrong impression.

 

[sesselpupser]

So I've been playing Borderlands 2 again... I had a mildly pleasant time completing the Hammerlock DLC with Gaige even though the last three bosses were the worst bosses in videogaming when that DLC was released (Piston's blimp, Badassasaurus and Piston himself)... But then I moved on to the Hammerlock DLC. Oh boy, they really turned the cheapness up on that one - not one invincible boss with weakpoints (as in the Captain Scarlett DLC), but two! The first wasn't a big deal, mind you, but the second is an embarrassment.

On the upside, this means I can safely ignore that last quest of the Hammerlock DLC because I'll never be able to do it alone without really cheating (I use the difficulty mod to prevent enemy health from regenerating when I die nearly all the time now, sue me - it makes the game harder, if that's any consolation) so it's on to the final and best DLC next. Then I have all the side quests from all the DLC, all the headhunter bosses, Digistruct Peak and a few quests from the vanilla game... That's just with Gaige. I still have stuff to do as Krieg and of the four vanilla characters I've only done one DLC with one of them (Torgue with Zer0).

And yes, I'm playing this because starting all over again in TPS was a bit too tough for me so I've kind of bounced off of it. Also it would be a shame to get to nearly 700 hours of play (698 now) and not complete a significant portion of the game. I want to at least complete all the quests with everyone, I'm not extremely bothered if I never do the headhunter DLCs or Digistruct Peak eight times with them all.

Edit: Bah, posted this in the wrong Borderlands 2 thread, didn't I?

Oh and there's the Handsome Collection coming for PS4 and Xbox One; Borderlands 2 and TPS plus 'all the DLC' (even though there's still more DLC coming for TPS - classy as ever, 2K!). There's also a $400 special edition with a remote controlled Claptrap toy.

 

[Submerged]

Recently got the game.

Confused about a few things, namely skills and the best skills to get to start out with. Currently on Level 8, using shields skills for the regenerating health deal, that should be useful as hell.

Guns as well, currently using slag guns as they seem to be most effective for most of the enemy at the moment, then following with explosive shell guns. Have one sniper rifle, that's pretty cool. Although I've noticed that they have different brand of guns, Hyperion doesn't seem to suit my play style as i get annoyed with the inability to aim unless three bullets have been shot. A bit weird.

Also, anything I really need to look out for with this game?

And lastly.... what happened to the massive thread about Borderland 2?! That seems to have totally disappeared.

 

[Submerged]

reposted by accident

 

[MeanElf]

...And lastly.... what happened to the massive thread about Borderland 2?! That seems to have totally disappeared.

Threads sink quite rapidly if there are no posts, especially with so many games being discussed on all platforms.

Yay that you have the game, it really is a fun romp. I shouldn't worry too much about the skills you choose just yet, as you can re-spec at any of the costume/heads machines such as the one where you meet Sir Hammerlock. That will only cost you cash to do so, unlike some games that will drop you a level.

Hyperion weapons are a pain for me too - you'll quickly find a preference. Slag weapons, as you've found out, make any following weapon damage far more potent. I like Maliwan weapons, due to the added effects they bring, such as corrosive, electric damage and of course fire.

I don't know if you are aware of the Golden Keys, but keep an eye on this site: http://orcz.com/Borderlands_2:_Golden_Key as they post up all Golden Keys issued across various sites, and if they are still valid. These will give you purple weapons, shields, class mods and shields at your current level - useful things to have. There is only one weapons chest that will give you these items, and that is in Sanctuary, which I'm guessing you haven't got to yet.

Other than that, have fun.

EDIT: actually, there are probably a few more things you should know, but I'm just back from my shift and am too tired to think straight, so will post more later on, when I'm awake again.

EDIT 2: Gearbox have just announced they are starting work on a new BL game.

 

[sesselpupser]

Recently got the game.

Confused about a few things, namely skills and the best skills to get to start out with. Currently on Level 8, using shields skills for the regenerating health deal, that should be useful as hell.

Who are you playing as? There's not really a 'best' for anything and when you're just starting out the skills are really just to give you a little boost, and as @MeanElf said it's easy and cheap to reset your skill points so just keep combining them and experimenting. It's not until you get to around level 20 that you can start specialising in something properly, then by level 32 or so you'll be able to get down to the bottom tier which is when it starts to get fun. When you get to level 72, that's when it's really fun (because you can have two bottom tier skills). It's a balancing act, though, and you do have to take some time to really think about the effects you'll get from skills and how much they're worth to you. Some things seem like a much better deal in words but in practice they're not so great and some - only one or two, and they're only really Krieg's - come with monumental debuffs. 600% melee damage? Yes please! But 12% chance of attacking yourself? That has killed me almost as many times as enemies have.

Guns as well, currently using slag guns as they seem to be most effective for most of the enemy at the moment, then following with explosive shell guns.

The general rule is:
Fire beats flesh (red health bars) but is negated by shields and armour
Corrosive beats armour (gold health bars) but is negated by flesh and shields
Shock beats shields (blue bar above the health bar) but is negated by flesh and armour
Explosive does a little bonus damage to everything (except shields I guess?)
Normal is not negated by anything but doesn't do much
Slag lowers the damage resistance of everything.

So the ideal thing is to have a slag weapon with a high elemental chance stat and a good rate of fire (none of the other stats really matter since you only want it to keep things slagged, I was using a level 61 Maliwan slag plasma caster from level 61 to 72 with Kreig), a corrosive, shock and fire weapon in your inventory at all times. This doesn't always work in practice though because you can go entire levels without finding a good replacement fire weapon and then before you know it you'll have, like, a load of non-elemental weapons but a Hyperion sniper rifle in each element. That kind of sucks but can't always be avoided!

Have one sniper rifle, that's pretty cool. Although I've noticed that they have different brand of guns, Hyperion doesn't seem to suit my play style as i get annoyed with the inability to aim unless three bullets have been shot. A bit weird.

Normally, Hyperion weapons are pretty awful. They do however make some really great special weapons ('special' meaning not white, green, rare blue or purple - I mean unique blue (the blues with red text in their description), legendary, seraph or pearlescent) so don't discount them entirely. Hyperion sniper rifles, though? No thanks. Ugh. Their shotguns are good, though, they make some of the best shotguns in the game (the Conference Call and Butcher spring to mind). My personal brand ranking, and the reasons why:

Maliwan: Always elemental, they make great plasma casters
Vladof: High rate of fire and large magazines - their sniper rifles are automatic
Dahl: Burst fire when zoomed regardless of whether the weapon is semi or fully automatic otherwise
Tediore: Weapon is tossed like a grenade when reloading (rocket launchers are, well, launched like a rocket), explosion damage scales according to how much ammo was left in the magazine
Torgue: Weapons fire explosive projectiles, kind of hard to use at long range
Jakobs: Always semi-auto, but high damage. They always have 'fires as fast as you can pull the trigger' on the card but that's often not actually true, they do artificially slow the rate of fire sometimes. They're also never elemental but might sometimes be explosive, I can't remember.
Hyperion: Inverse recoil sucks as you know, unless it's a shotgun or SMG at close range
Bandit: Pretty crap all-round but they do have huge magazines. But also long reload times.

There is one exception to the Hyperion rule, though - Salvador with the skill (or is it skills?) that increases weapon accuracy, rate of fire and reload speed the longer you hold the fire button down (while gunzerking) can turn two Hyperion SMGs into bullet-based death rays.

Also, anything I really need to look out for with this game?

Yes.

- If you're finding the game too difficult, it's either that you're just too low a level for the quest you're trying to do or your gear isn't good enough. To correct this you should leave the area, go and accept some non-story quests to level up, buy some gear from vending machines or find some golden key codes to get free purple gear that is guaranteed to be the same level as you.
- Always keep enemies slagged and always aim for critical hit spots, when possible anyway. You'll save a lot of ammo. Never use the wrong element unless you're out of ammo for every other gun.
- Don't underestimate the usefulness of Tediore reloads. I've second winded many times by firing a single shot and throwing the gun at an enemy, so as long as the enemy is close enough they're a good source of pseudo-grenades.
- Never rely solely on one type of weapon, that's asking for ammo trouble. Try to keep at least one weapon of each type, preferably keep two of each type with different elements.
- Always try out any Plasma Casters (E-Tech SMGs) you find, these are by far my most favourite non-special weapon and you owe it to yourself to try them out. I find they're a lot more resilient to the levelling process (i.e. you can use them for longer than most other guns) than any other weapon. Bear in mind that they consume two SMG bullets every time they fire so they do cut your SMG ammo pool in half.
- While there's no such thing as 'the best' build, there is such a thing as 'the best build for x' where x = the number of players, your play style, your preferred weapon type... Actually the same goes for entire characters but it's not impossible to solo the game with any character so don't worry too much.
- Don't worry about money, death is just an annoying setback. The worst part about dying is the fact that enemy health is reset (unless you're using the PC difficulty mod which tricks the game into thinking there's 1-3 more players besides you, but to balance that the game does get harder yet the loot doesn't improve from what I can tell). You never really need to buy anything.
- Totally do stockpile good weapons if you want to start a new character, it's nice to leave yourself a gift in Claptrap's stash to get a leg up. Don't get too carried away, though - I still have seven 'mules' who exist solely to hold weapons and I must've spent more time juggling loot between my 13 characters than I've spent playing most other games I own.
- If you get stuck, it might be more beneficial to change your network settings to allow random people to join than to waste time hitting your head against a wall.
- Quests - and their rewards - scale to the level you're at if you accept them after you complete the final story mission. This applies to normal mode and TVHM (i.e. the first two playthroughs). In UVHM the quests and their rewards scale to the level you're at when you accept them, but the bosses scale to your level at all times - meaning the 'go away, level up and come back' thing doesn't work in UVHM. Anyway, you may wish to find a list of quests with unique rewards. There are a couple of reward items I can think of that you'd probably want to save, but I guess that applies more to a second character than to your first ever playthrough.
- If you're on PC and you ever want to do some power levelling or if you want to get new characters through the story quickly, let me know and I might be able to help you out.

- All of this is a lot less important in your first playthrough and by the time you get to UVHM you'll know it all anyway.

And lastly.... what happened to the massive thread about Borderland 2?! That seems to have totally disappeared.

It's here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/borderlands-2.220262/ . I accidentally bumped this one when I meant to bump the other one since it's a lot bigger and older. Maybe a member of staff could merge them? I wouldn't know who to ask, maybe @Terronium-12? Then again maybe he'd just "accidentally" nuke both threads!