BTCC-9: Please see Post #305...Finished
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- swiftautosport9
@FaithlessEmo did you get my PM?
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- glenn_cullen
Well
I'm not naming names
Yep no start date yet, there's only one more Thursday before Xmas and we still have a lot of spec testing to get through so some time January I expect
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- rolo912011
We've always done the 'winter break' in BTCC.
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- Scaniabebe
That just finished two weeks ago, and when that season finished I retired from hosting the series and handed it over to Scaniabebe
Indeed he did, HI EVERYONE
I would first like to apologise about the lack of time I've been able to commit, but with work getting me to work longer hours in the Christmas Period - there's not a lot I can do about that! I know I'm working late tonight, and Monday for sure.
Unfortunately, the Integra Cup has ended. However, as a Support Race for the BTCC Package - we're looking into a MiTO Cup... Maybe that'd be to your taste?
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- Pamellaaa
Unfortunately, the Integra Cup has ended. However, as a Support Race for the BTCC Package - we're looking into a MiTO Cup... Maybe that'd be to your taste?
Small lightweight FWD is almost definitely to my taste!
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- TheOldStig
does anyone remember the pole lap time on RBR in the previous integra season?
I didn't qualify so couldn't find out...
I didn't qualify so couldn't find out...
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- TheOldStig
I am aware of that,
& yes, I just want to improve as a driver and knowing the lap times, I can set myself targets to match or beat
I have chosen the integra for this purpose since it was used stock by everyone so tuning won't be a factor affecting my times as tuning can cause them to vary. It'll just be man and machine vs the track without the need of tinkering with anything.
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- TheOldStig
Regarding how BTCC-9 currently stands, I have a few concerns that I want to discuss:
The use of wings and aero parts- there is a regulation settings for the type of aero wings, their adjustments and wheel size specified in the car section, but my worry is how would you know if a car is using them without physically checking? I'm not a aero expert but if it affects performance then it will likely give people not following the regulations.
The tyres- They have changed from the long running SS to RH. I understand that this will bring drivers closer together to give more people a change of winning, and maybe even cause less people to go off or cause accidents. However, yesterday I set a 36.9 on BH-indy and I found them too soft and the car being too easy to drive, even whilst being reckless, I still set very smooth lap times. It has become more about carrying speed through the corner than anything IMO. I preferred using a harder compound since it required alot more skill to do well and there were many factors to take into account whilst driving in order to do well and it also allows people to improve them as drivers by overcoming these challenges. That I see as gone really
(RH are like using some sort of driving aid with alot more of power).
I wonder if anyone else feels the same...
The use of wings and aero parts- there is a regulation settings for the type of aero wings, their adjustments and wheel size specified in the car section, but my worry is how would you know if a car is using them without physically checking? I'm not a aero expert but if it affects performance then it will likely give people not following the regulations.
The tyres- They have changed from the long running SS to RH. I understand that this will bring drivers closer together to give more people a change of winning, and maybe even cause less people to go off or cause accidents. However, yesterday I set a 36.9 on BH-indy and I found them too soft and the car being too easy to drive, even whilst being reckless, I still set very smooth lap times. It has become more about carrying speed through the corner than anything IMO. I preferred using a harder compound since it required alot more skill to do well and there were many factors to take into account whilst driving in order to do well and it also allows people to improve them as drivers by overcoming these challenges. That I see as gone really
(RH are like using some sort of driving aid with alot more of power). I wonder if anyone else feels the same...
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- rolo912011
Took the words out of my mouth really @sibbystiggy.
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I remember you didn't run aero because there was no way of checking if they ran the right settings for it, right?
Did you ever run aero in this series?
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- TheOldStig
yes we did but in GT5 and it was rear wings only
however, in gt6 you can adjust the height, width and type of wing which will cause too much inconsistency and differences between the cars.
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- Scaniabebe
@sibbystiggy, I agree with what you're saying - let me answer your queries 👍
Wings and Aero: I do agree where you're coming from - but luckily, most people are trustable. But in Replays, it'd be fairly simple to check things such as Wheel Sizes. But it's something myself (and other potential stewards) can keep an eye on...
Tyres: I gave some of the cars a test with Sports: Soft and found it to be way too much of a handful. And I found the wear was also too extreme. I'm thinking about changing Tyre Damage to Fast if we run with Racing: Hards...
Yeah, they were used in GT5... But users had the option to remove their wings. Something I might still consider.
Wings and Aero: I do agree where you're coming from - but luckily, most people are trustable. But in Replays, it'd be fairly simple to check things such as Wheel Sizes. But it's something myself (and other potential stewards) can keep an eye on...
Tyres: I gave some of the cars a test with Sports: Soft and found it to be way too much of a handful. And I found the wear was also too extreme. I'm thinking about changing Tyre Damage to Fast if we run with Racing: Hards...
Yeah, they were used in GT5... But users had the option to remove their wings. Something I might still consider.
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- rolo912011
You really can't rely on trust I'm afraid. You can have great people in your series but anybody can cheat, so you have to adopt a suspicious attitude.
Everyday practice also says wheels and wings would never be checked each week.
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- rolo912011
It was draft assisted so wouldn't be representative. Aim for high 1:40s.
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- CptMadBean
Only thing I find weird is braking on racing tyres, seem to need to up the springs and stuff on the front.
But then the car not turn as well, well that's in the honda.
Only had a little tweak once sibby beat my time yesterday.
Friday morning I sorted the nissan just reset all and added power and right weight, standard box I think 185 mph.
I was all over the place in it, guess It could be I was tired.
Thing that worries me if anyone can tune a car using the front and rear areo.
In season events I found any areo slowed me down, so I guess front areo on the nissan would slow the car down.
But if tuned right could it make the car faster, if so this could out balance cars.
Any tuners out there find areo makes the cars faster?
Scan I would if you ask skeng and Ian to run some test.
Give them one car like the nissan and ask them to test with front areo and without it.
Letting them tune both cars and seeing what they can get out of them.
Would not test them at brands really, hmm hmm to trying to think of the next best track on the list.......
Maybe testing at Silverstone National Circuit would be better lol
Just at brands alot of time made is getting paddock hill right and the indy track just not got the staights.
But then the car not turn as well, well that's in the honda.
Only had a little tweak once sibby beat my time yesterday.
Friday morning I sorted the nissan just reset all and added power and right weight, standard box I think 185 mph.
I was all over the place in it, guess It could be I was tired.
Thing that worries me if anyone can tune a car using the front and rear areo.
In season events I found any areo slowed me down, so I guess front areo on the nissan would slow the car down.
But if tuned right could it make the car faster, if so this could out balance cars.
Any tuners out there find areo makes the cars faster?
Scan I would if you ask skeng and Ian to run some test.
Give them one car like the nissan and ask them to test with front areo and without it.
Letting them tune both cars and seeing what they can get out of them.
Would not test them at brands really, hmm hmm to trying to think of the next best track on the list.......
Maybe testing at Silverstone National Circuit would be better lol
Just at brands alot of time made is getting paddock hill right and the indy track just not got the staights.
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- johnboy-1975-
100% correct:tup: Eliminate temptation and avoid the "His car looks iffy" blah blah speculation cobblers. Recalls drama involving Toca and Drifterjoe some thought his car was dodgy those that knew him just realised he was fast. The jealous buggers blamed his car! Better to cut out any doubts.
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- CptMadBean
100% correct:tup: Eliminate temptation and avoid the "His car looks iffy" blah blah speculation cobblers. Recalls drama involving Toca and Drifterjoe some thought his car was dodgy those that knew him just realised he was fast. The jealous buggers blamed his car! Better to cut out any doubts.
Well that make Skeng car iffy them lol.
I'm really unsure you let tune a car and them limit areo and rims.
I guess the best guy to ask on how hard this is to keep an eye is rolo.
Do you watch replys on pause and go into photo mode to veiw all cars on tracks?
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- rolo912011
I don't think wheels affect performance (I could be wrong) so opening them up could be smart.
Aero is such a complicated web these days after the customisation update that personally I don't think it's worth the trouble. Testing all of the possibilities with that will cause you to purchase a one-way ticket to Beachy Head.
Aero is such a complicated web these days after the customisation update that personally I don't think it's worth the trouble. Testing all of the possibilities with that will cause you to purchase a one-way ticket to Beachy Head.
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Scania logic?
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Truckin'
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