CALLING ALL TUNERS, tuner challenge!

[neil1280]

sorry if i unsulted anyone for suggesting what i thought would have been a good idea, but its true what i read on this forum about guys just being ignorant and thinking they know better about everything, any suggestion just gets put in the dirt

as said its not like i was using them as puppets it was a stupid toyota for gods sake im not gonna take on the whole game with it am i.

@ rotary junkie, look through my past posts i dont spell like that, i hate text type, the only word you may have mistaken was "awk" and if you live outside britain you wouldnt have got it.

any insults i had posted were merely tounge in cheek/friendly and i thought it was plainly obvious,and again sorry if i caused insult, it wasnt meant, except when i called called you ignorant.... i meant that

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Look mate, I was exaggerating. But it's not friggin' difficult to use the shift key. So do.

That's all.

 

[mafia_boy]

Wow....you guys need to get a grip seriously.
I know i'm 'wet behind the ears' with tuning but geez...
All of you come across very curt and to quote "Holier than thou"
Maybe you should re-ascess how you write your comments, because frankly all of you come across as a right bunch of grumpy gits lol

I'll quote Monty Python if I have to if it gets the point across. As for me reassessing my writing style, no thanks. I've been writing this way online since the year 2000 and I'm not going to change that style anytime soon.

Im not having a go im just saying this is getting out of hand with the insults ect.
You all have valid points yes, but SCREAMING them at eachother isnt going to get anything sorted.

I wasn't screaming at all. If I wanted to do that I would be TYPING LIKE THIS AT YOU TELLING YOU EVERYTHING!!

 

[Luminis]

Do they own this forum and what people want to do in their own time then, does everyone else have to seek permission? I don't think the post seemed bossy at all, he started it with posing an idea, then stated he posted something else but never got a straight answer. He then explained his idea clearly enough, and ended with a joking comment about being best to judge.

It's a forum with 1000's of members and a game that has sold millions, let's seek permission from a few people with to much time on there hands before anyone can post a tune, LMAO

BS, he's asking for tuners to enter a challenge, which consists of submitting tunes to him. If this is intended to be more than just a fistful of people throwing tunes or lap times at each other, than the OP really should reconsider his approach.

But, as I said, this is merely advise from my humble point of view. Take it for what it is or don't, I couldn't care less.
I just think this could be quite an interesting idea, if it's done properly.

awk just forget it guys, i should have know better of you your like a bunch of girls if any of you tuners are interested in taking it seriously then pm me

Yeah, that's where my advise came from. If you want to be taken seriously, you'll have to do a little bit more than just asking for people to submit their tunes to you.
You want your challenge to taken seriously? Take it seriously yourself and other people might as well.

That's all there is to it. As I said, I don't intend to attack you or anything, but I do guess that it's pretty obvious that it's not gonna work out this way.

 

[3thanol]

I was looking forward to coming on here and taking part in a VERY light hearted challenge rather than playing the AI and all the drifters online, so far it is all very serious. I looked at the rules & guidelines and cannot see what system everyone is going on about. in the mean time this guy has another post destroyed.

All the best if this is how this part of the forum runs!

 

[Luminis]

I was looking forward to coming on here and taking part in a VERY light hearted challenge rather than playing the AI and all the drifters online, so far it is all very serious. I looked at the rules & guidelines and cannot see what system everyone is going on about. in the mean time this guy has another post destroyed.

All the best if this is how this part of the forum runs!

If you're talking about a way to organise such a tuner battle:
1) Set proper restrictions. Like, 1100kg min, 400hp max, sports soft tyres, no pre-tuned cars or race cars (read: production cars only).
2) Decide on a balanced selection of test tracks.
3) Get at least a small crew of judges/test drivers.
4) Provide an overview of who's participating and waht they're doing.
5) Put a wee bit of effort into the thread and especially the OP. Proper grammar, spelling and a somewhat 'clean' and structured post, so the rules, paricipants, results and whatnot are easily discernable for the reader.

All of that requires, of course, a little more thought and effort than just telling people to tune a certain car for a certain track and test drive them yourself. And that's why the level of appreciation you'll be getting for such an idea depends on exactly how such a thread is presented.

The better tuners around put a lot of effort into their tunes, so I think that it is to be expected that the 'organiser' of something like this is to be expected to put a little effort into his/her project as well.
If someone's not willing to do that, that person should expect (and maybe accept) criticism and a little advise here and there.
But, if the organiser can't be bothered to, quite blatantly, give a rat's *** about setting up a decent competition, why should anyone bother pariticipating?

Whether this is meant to be a hardcore competition or something light hearted that allows anybody to just jump in... Putting a wee bit of effort and thought into it isn't too much to ask, is it?

If you think it is, though... Well, I can't help you. Personally, I thinkt that every request, whatever the topic may be, should be made with that little bit of thought and effort (every post, in fact). But that's just me.
If some people around here a satisfied by a poorly typed out (and thought out) idea, than that's fine. But don't expect everybody to be the same.

Maybe keep in mind that the OP wants the local tuners to do something, and that's participating in his challenge.
And, at times, it's all about how you ask people to do something. Do it nicely, and they'll be willing to do what you request. Don't do so and they might not be so willing, after all.

 

[Adrenaline]

If the tuners would all support me in it, I'd be more than willing to organize it.

It seems realistic that we could have it set up by February 1st.
This includes, but is not limited to, the following:
Car:
HP:
Weight:
Tires:
(3)Test Tracks:
Tuners:
Drivers:

From then on, the outline would look something like this: (Rough draft, I'm just thinking out loud)

On the 1st of the month, Car, Weight, HP & Tracks are posted publicly. (Decided by vote, majority rules)

By Midnight PST on the 8th, all tunes for the car need to be submitted.
By Midnight PST on the 9th, all tunes are distributed to the test drivers via PM in an unidentifiable manner.

Example: Tune 1, Tune 2, etc. to avoid any possible favoritism.​

By Midnight PST on the 22nd, all driver lap times must be submitted.
By Midnight PST on the 23rd, a new discussion thread will begin for the following month's: Car, Weight, HP, Tires & Tracks, will be created.
By Midnight PST on the 29th, all results will be posted publicly.

At which point the process would repeat itself on the 1st, based on the results of the new thread, posted on the 23rd.

Like I said, this is all a rough draft, I literally came up with as I wrote it.
If the tuning times are too short, or driving times too long, all of it can be adjusted based on reasonable feedback. 1 week to tune, 2 weeks to test, and a final week to compile, organize and present.

If you all, including tuners, drivers as well as spectators, are in agreement, then I'd be willing to take on this task. If for any reason people object to me doing it, I completely understand.

 

[VTiRoj]

If you all, including tuners, drivers as well as spectators, are in agreement, then I'd be willing to take on this task. If for any reason people object to me doing it, I completely understand.

See, this is what we all wanted to see. An organised challenge with a well planned structure. 👍 I've got no objections to you doing it. I think it's best that you open a new thread though, so we're not taking over Neil's thread any more than we have done already.

 

[Motor City Hami]

I'm in. I would like to see if I have advanced past good tuner. I was pretty good in GT4 and am finding that 90% of it is relative to GT5.

We all tune the same car to the same spec and have five or so test drivers to review. Pick the same track with like a 5 lap run with each tune, taking the best lap time from that driver's 5. How do you score from there? Maybe a point system that scores each drivers tunes on a ranking? Like 50pts for top, 49, 48, etc.

This should be fun.

 

[MadMike'86]

I think Neil is trying to do a fun thing here, a simple, no nonsense challenge, he never stated it would be a major competition.
All he was suggesting is we tuners participate in his challenge for a laugh, something i'm well up for.

Neil im in and im sure many others will be, I get what you were trying to do here, the whole point being for fun, not as a serious event.

 

[Luminis]

I think Neil is trying to do a fun thing here, a simple, no nonsense challenge, he never stated it would be a major competition.
All he was suggesting is we tuners participate in his challenge for a laugh, something i'm well up for.

Neil im in and im sure many others will be, I get what you were trying to do here, the whole point being for fun, not as a serious event.

You know, you make it sound like 'well organised' and 'fun' were mutually exclusive or something.

 

[MadMike'86]

No not at all, doesnt mean "fun" has to be a militant affair though.
Yes some organisation is required, but perhaps (bearing in mind the simplicity of the original proposed event) not as much as is being suggested by the likes of some people?

In any case it looks like the whole thing has been one big fail anyway, to many politics and complaints rather than just tuning for the fun of it.

 

[C_Monster]

I'm not into the tuning game much (yet), more of just an observer at this point, however I'm onboard with Adrenaline being the tester for a tuner challenge. The dude gives very unbiased, honest, informative reviews of many of the various tunes on this forum.

 

[Motor City Hami]

I'm not into the tuning game much (yet), more of just an observer at this point, however I'm onboard with Adrenaline being the tester for a tuner challenge. The dude gives very unbiased, honest, informative reviews of many of the various tunes on this forum.

This would be taking only one driver's driving style into account. Would be interesting with three drivers to soften that a little.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

This would be taking only one driver's driving style into account. Would be interesting with three drivers to soften that a little.

The way most of the GT4 tuner challenges were done was usually 5+ test drivers who each chose their own track for testing. It worked well and showed how each car would perform for multiple, very different driving styles at a fairly wide variation of tracks.

 

[C_Monster]

This would be taking only one driver's driving style into account. Would be interesting with three drivers to soften that a little.

Excellent point. I agree.

 

[Adrenaline]

I fully intended for multiple drivers to be used, I had roughly 10 in mind as an upper limit.
I'd still like to hear from some of the Garages that they are in support of me organizing it, before I create a dedicated thread and risk embarrassing myself.

 

[Motor City Hami]

I fully intended for multiple drivers to be used, I had roughly 10 in mind as an upper limit.
I'd still like to hear from some of the Garages that they are in support of me organizing it, before I create a dedicated thread and risk embarrassing myself.

Just pick your cars and drivers and get this done. I want to see how many of the garages I can beat. Let's go.

 

[neil1280]

I think Neil is trying to do a fun thing here, a simple, no nonsense challenge, he never stated it would be a major competition.
All he was suggesting is we tuners participate in his challenge for a laugh, something i'm well up for.

Neil im in and im sure many others will be, I get what you were trying to do here, the whole point being for fun, not as a serious event.

cheers mike im so glad there is one person on the gtplanet with a bit of sense.
i mean, i do have better things to do than try about 20 different tunes! like actually race and earn xp, but i just wanted to make an interesting thread for everyone and they took it too seriously, it was serious about lap times and thats all, there were so many alternative ways to do this but i just thought id keep it simple, everyone with the same car and the same track with no 5 page discussion and urgument about which track, which car, which tires blah blah blah

and now some tuners have just disappointed me and i have rid their tunes from my cars and il never use them again

i was totally unbiased but tahts out the window now

cheers to guys who were in support!! 👍

 

[neil1280]

Just pick your cars and drivers and get this done. I want to see how many of the garages I can beat. Let's go.

yeah someone just get it organised im still really interested to see how it would turn out