Can any cars do wheelies in gt5?

[calan_svc]

Show me 5+ I triple dog dare you!

You're on!

 

[Noz]

Now a Really wheelie 👍

 

[JosVerstappen]

another physics flaw of this game that wheels dont leave the ground.

 

[BKViper]

 

[rileyra]

what makes you think a wheelie has to come from launching the car? all it is is having the front two wheels off the ground for a second >.>

but no, no cars can do wheelstands from a launch in this game
if you come out of a corner with a bank at the right angle you might get lucky and pull 1 or 2 of the fronts off for a half second but not much more then that

The technical definition as posed by calan

wheel·ie (hwl, w-)
n.
A stunt in which the front wheel or wheels of a vehicle, such as a bicycle or motorcycle, are raised so that the vehicle is balanced momentarily on its rear wheel or wheels.

Balanced being the key word. Coming off a jump and the rear wheels landing a couple seconds before the front or the front bouncing off the surface doesn't count if it can't be sustained or "balanced" by the torque of the rear wheels. Otherwise it's just falling...

 

[zr1chris]

another physics flaw of this game that wheels dont leave the ground.

Huh? Have you looked at the pics? I see plenty of wheels living the ground.

 

[giffycake]

Coming down hill end of straight after tunnel on trial mountain.Anything can if the rear down force and speed are high enough.

This was caused by lag I assume, I'm the Lowes on the inside.(Far right) Was funny as all hell watching him take the whole turn like that tho lol

 

[aga080]

So is it my understanding that not even the Toyota GT1 with the suspension & downforce tune can do the 250mph+ wheelie?

Also, rileyra is completely right, nothing in this thread is the conventional wheelie that I was referring to, just the front end bouncing up or catching air.

 

[calan_svc]

The technical definition as posed by calan


Balanced being the key word. Coming off a jump and the rear wheels landing a couple seconds before the front or the front bouncing off the surface doesn't count if it can't be sustained or "balanced" by the torque of the rear wheels. Otherwise it's just falling...

But at the top of the motion curve before it starts back down, it is momentarily balanced.

We've already established that you are making up your own definition of "wheelie" and the technical one is right out the window. Don't go complicating things by bringing my definition back into the mix.

 

[eight6er]

So is it my understanding that not even the Toyota GT1 with the suspension & downforce tune can do the 250mph+ wheelie?

Also, rileyra is completely right, nothing in this thread is the conventional wheelie that I was referring to, just the front end bouncing up or catching air.

Isn't that what a wheelie is? The front catching air under power, what else do you expect?

 

[rileyra]

But at the top of the motion curve before it starts back down, it is momentarily balanced.

We've already established that you are making up your own definition of "wheelie" and the technical one is right out the window. Don't go complicating things by bringing my definition back into the mix.

A fraction of a second isn't enough to be considered momentarily balanced imo. If it were to stay for a couple seconds then yes by all means. I'm not making up my own definition. You're just misunderstanding the existing one

I did say that I think a wheelie should be initiated by the vehicle's torque alone. But I also said it could be considered a wheelie without it. It's just a matter of preference to what someone considers to be sustained or balanced... Obviously "my definition" requires are little more time involved at the top of the motion curve than yours.

 

[NOS Waster]

So is it my understanding that not even the Toyota GT1 with the suspension & downforce tune can do the 250mph+ wheelie?

Also, rileyra is completely right, nothing in this thread is the conventional wheelie that I was referring to, just the front end bouncing up or catching air.

If you would have looked at the RX-7 pictures, you would already know that there is ONE person in this thread that has done a conventional wheelie with an RX-7.

Also, I would assume there is a car in this game that can do the mad wheelies like the GT-One and Escudo from past titles. It just needs some testing.

 

[Tyger]

The cars in GT5 don't have the torque to maintain a wheelie for any distance, or the weight distribution. Might be able to pull one for a few seconds from a standstill, and i've done wheelies like the earlier pic of the Veyron at Trial Mountain (just by increasing the power to about 1200bhp then hitting that crest on the long straight) but thankfully the game is realistic enough to not allow us to maintain a wheelie.

 

[calan_svc]

A fraction of a second isn't enough to be considered momentarily balanced imo.

But... exactly how long is a "fraction of a second", and how long is "momentarily"?

Since the true definition of wheelie states "momentarily", and since momentarily refers to an indefinite amount of time, having the vehicle balanced on the back wheels for even just a "fraction of a second" counts as a wheelie.

So you either have to accept that my Camaro did a wheelie, or you have to come up with your own modified definition of a wheelie...and get the OP to use it since it's his thread.

LMAO This is funny.

 

[rileyra]

I will not give in!

Does it make more sense to you if i say that a front end bounced in the air cannot be considered a wheelie unless the torque of the rear wheels has momentarily slowed or stopped the rate of decent at which the front end is free falling back to the surface? Even with that it's subject to opinion

 

[calan_svc]

I will not give in!

I see that!

Does it make more sense to you if i say that a front end bounced in the air cannot be considered a wheelie unless the torque of the rear wheels has momentarily slowed or stopped the rate of decent at which the front end is free falling back to the surface? Even with that it's subject to opinion

You can say whatever you wish as to what can or can't be considered a wheelie, but that doesn't change the true definition of one.

wheel·ie (hwl, w-)
n.
A stunt in which the front wheel or wheels of a vehicle, such as a bicycle or motorcycle, are raised so that the vehicle is balanced momentarily on its rear wheel or wheels.

The phrases "torque of the rear wheels" and "rate of decent" aren't mentioned in there anywhere...so we are back to you making up your own definition; which is perfectly fine for the topic at hand.

 

[rileyra]

No soup for you!

We're just destined to disagree on the matter. I like my definition better

 

[calan_svc]

LOL

I'm still gonna take you up on the 5+ seconds challenge per your definition

 

[rileyra]

Please do, then post the tune if you pull it off 👍

 

[aga080]

This is what im talking about,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH7Vgs2775A

I dont think it is achievable in this game because you dont have the awesome NOS!!

Also, what happened to that track!?!

 

[aga080]

just tried the GT4 wheelie suspension tune on the Toyota GT1...

Doesn't work.

 

[witham]

Veyron wheelies when on bumps.

 

[Fastlap]

I see that!



You can say whatever you wish as to what can or can't be considered a wheelie, but that doesn't change the true definition of one.



The phrases "torque of the rear wheels" and "rate of decent" aren't mentioned in there anywhere...so we are back to you making up your own definition; which is perfectly fine for the topic at hand.

Ok I really have to back up Rileyra here. Everybody knows what a wheelie is, it is a vehicle lifting its front wheel(s) because of its own torque, like we see it on bikes or sometimes dragsters. THAT is what everybody is thinking of, when thinking of a wheelie.

The front end bouncing in the air after a jump may be enough for you and you dictionary, but it has nothing to with the definition that most people use.

Ask anybody what a wheelie is and you will get this:




or this:





But NOT this (which perfectly fits YOUR defintion, doesn´t it?):

 

[ejronin]

No, a wheelie needs to be initiated from the car's own power not from a bounce. Not to mention being able to maintain the wheelie...I very much doubt your car did anything but bounce the front end up for a second and then right back down. NOT a wheelie

I'm pretty sure that for as long as the rear wheels never leave the ground and the front wheel pop up, it's a wheelie - brake bounce or otherwise.

 

[Weinerish]

Now a Really wheelie 👍

What car is this and how do i get it?

 

[Yip-man]

What car is this and how do i get it?

Caterham Seven Fireblade,

appears in dealership sometimes ( wher ei got mine) - or prize car for Foruma GT series in A Spec.

 

[The Bman]

VTEC just kicked in yo!

Some Nissans do. The 240sx I think it's called.

 

[84mccl]

Challenge Accepted!!!

Nürburgring GP_F_6 by stuntn100, on Flickr

Nürburgring GP_F_4 by stuntn100, on Flickr

Nürburgring GP_F_3 by stuntn100, on Flickr
Fully tuned Elise, racing softs, with stock suspension, aero parts and full weight reduction.

 

[Kumaclimber]

wheel·ie (hwl, w-)
n.
A stunt in which the front wheel or wheels of a vehicle, such as a bicycle or motorcycle, are raised so that the vehicle is balanced momentarily on its rear wheel or wheels.

According to this the only "cars" that I can think of that are able to do this are monster trucks and lowriders (I am not including drag cars because of the wheely bar). All other standard vehicles are prevented from reaching an angle, at which they can be balanced, by body work such as bumpers. So perhaps a better, and more technically accurate, description would be a wheel stand initiated by the torque produced by the cars engine.

 

[Killachipmunk]

I read this yesterday, and it sounded like a challenge
So I used a fully tuned standard Alfa Giulia TZ2, which with Skid Recovery on and no TCS already rolls over if you turn too hard, and thought I'd give it a shot.

Did the little jump at the end of Trial Mountain and hit the wall, when the back came down it did one of these unconventional wheelies, but importantly it carried on for (I timed) 4 seconds.
Progression pics to prove:

Taken about 1s after it leaped up.

Held rigidly.

Came down again after hitting the redline.

(Sorry about the size)
As you can see, it managed to get quite far on the back wheels, I'm just about to try again with Manual to see if shifting can hold it steady.