Can RiFTW0RkS Pick your brains please ?

[RiFTW0RkS]

Meandog these are all great ideas and welcome your enthusiasm.. This is exactly the idea !! do you think we can do it ??
:-))))))
& I will stop doing that dbl-pst ;-)

 

[Bluntified]

If I may jump in here RiFTWORks....guys, basically what this guy/group is doing is making something similar to Gran Turismo TV, except a drift edition. He's looking to start news threads (or whatever) to basically cover a magazine/webzine with video.

It's a pretty cool idea, but most of the work (which should be done by him (interviews, comp highlights etc.)) he wants to come from us, he just compiles it.

In my opinion, he's interested in the comps solely for the video shoots.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Eric1512]

I like the idea of videos for all the teams. It would allow everyone to shine.

 

[Meandog]

Meandog these are all great ideas and welcome your enthusiasm.. This is exactly the idea !! do you think we can do it ??
:-))))))
& I will stop doing that dbl-pst ;-)

Yea it can work, you have to make it professional though. Do not simply post, drift comp. Make it very detailed, unlike your last post in the events section. Make it very organized also, don not expect much success if there is no organization. Good thing about this sort of event is that there are no judges required in the lobby, so all you would need is you, camera cars, and the entrants who are battling at the time (Flexbile times).


Examples of professional and organized events:
Formula D
VDC

I will warn you though, if you simply copy and paste from these sort of posts into your own event thread, you will lose all respect and people won't participate.

Again, i am not sure if you want to create strictly a drift magazine, or host competitions, or both... still some confusion

 

[RiFTW0RkS]

Just need to say nobody doeas anything.. RiFTW0RkS ....were in the process of getting together people to help us... Like a resident photographer that we did have until day before yesturday..

I have 5 cam cars lined up with drivers.. All the hardware and skills needed.. this has been a huge operation not just for me but for others who have got us this far..

RiFTW0RkS do everything... Unless you guys want to do it for us.. We really do encourage your submisions once we get set up..

Nobody does anything but drift and we stand back and watch..Report... Take notes... Record and capture and ask question when on a mic not typo...

There are no issues or worries...

People were offering stuff to us... I broke this chain.. Simple..

 

[Meandog]

So you want to strictly create a magazine right? that's possible. Just start a new thread once you get some media, and if people like your stuff, im sure you will be able to go to comps and save replays to post new media

However, I really think someone should start a comp like the one i described above. That would be really cool because everyone will see everything and they'll be part of it. Would be a lot of work though

 

[RiFTW0RkS]

Meandog I was in talks with some of those guys/events... We would have no reason to do that...

We wanted to plan an original event that does pretty much what option mag do.. Were only replicating RL for in game drifters here.. Its been a well thought out plan this and even though it may not look like it atm... We really are no noobs to organisation and media for events.. etc ... etc thats really nothing to worry about.. We picked an option for an event that was !

Possible
Flexible
Enjoyable to all

I would hope from what im typing gives an idea that this is not an amature operation...

 

[DGambino1]

I have been reading your posts Riftworks from time to time and you have all these ideas floating around that sound interesting in theory - but that's all you have is theory. The biggest thing that I am failing to see is: Execution.

I have seen your facebook fan page and you have only 65 likes (e.g. followers). You have not done anything to create a buzz about what you are trying to do other than make posts in the GTP forum and occasionally piss people off (e.g. Sean W).

There is so much content in the forums that you can use, provided you ask permission to use it. If you had asked Sean to use his pics before you hijacked them - he may have agreed as long as he was given proper credit.

The point of this is that we are not going to go out of our way to help you until you have shown initiative and ambition to get it out there. If you do have friends involved, get together and get some ideas for your first "issue" and then get it out there. Stop talking about it and start being about it.

Check out the first GT5 Podcast that was published recently. These guys got an idea for a podcast together and put out there first episode. This is how you execute an idea and generate buzz that makes others want to contribute to it!

Good luck.

P.S. I'm not trying to offend you - just trying to give you some advice!

 

[GODfreyGT5]

We really are no noobs to organisation and media for events..

May I ask two things.


1. Can you please link us something, anything you have produced to back up your statement.

2. Asside from people agreeing to help as camera cars or recoders, how many people are actually behind 'RiFTW0RkS', you keep refering to yourself as 'us' or 'we', and it really leaves things a bit unanswered or confusing.

And please answer straight, ditch the odd way you seem to piece together your points and what you are trying to say.

 

[Bluntified]

May I ask two things.


1. Can you please link us something, anything you have produced to back up your statement.

2. Asside from people agreeing to help as camera cars or recoders, how many people are actually behind 'RiFTW0RkS', you keep refering to yourself as 'us' or 'we', and it really leaves things a bit unanswered or confusing.

And please answer straight, ditch the odd way you seem to piece together your points and what you are trying to say.

👍

I wanted to know the same thing. Is it one guy masking as a few people or is it REALLY a staff?

I too don't like the whole "corporate" way of saying things, very indirect and vague.

 

[SoullessApples]

Do a interview, interview mld_ant. He won the first fd3 round. Ask him some questions, get something started. If you need help ask me. I have tonss of ideas. I was going to do something like this. I made a community drift edit a while back. Pm me if you need help. I have a good idea....

YouTube.com/soullessapples look here for the community drift edit its a bad edit lol

( I would send video link but im on my phone)

 

[RiFTW0RkS]

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I wanted to know the same thing. Is it one guy masking as a few people or is it REALLY a staff?

I too don't like the whole "corporate" way of saying things, very indirect and vague.

I think were really getting somewere and there are posts that grasp our concept.. I guess before any real progress starts to happen and myself and the creative team can start to generate some content and material related to this cause.. Above quotes some challenging questions.

There is still some mystisism surounding RiFTW0RkS that keeps knocking us on the head.. I will try and clear up a few points touched.. Even though there are replies already to the questions asked and the answers that are as complete as they can be. The point Godfrey brought up.....

2) First !
RiFTW0RkS is an idea thought up by myself.. As a professional I work as a Digital Architect and involved in a Large Team of digital creatives. Most of these people are involved somewhere in the gaming world for relaxation and pleasure in their own time. I decided to ask for a bit of their spare time to help me in the development of digital content for my idea and use the skills they have & Spare time.. to achieve this.

I do all the final renderings for vector layouts, Final Logo decisions and such and I’m not getting into who is who and what is what of running a Team of Creative professionals. I will tell you that I simply have NOT got time to sit on a machine a render graphics for use in Video and Audio, The video needs work putting together and cuttng up, it is huge task in time and design. These people, or as I keep saying WE, and that’s RiFTW0RkS to you ! Will help me put together all the bits to create content for the Webzine. Present it in a fresh way and make you guys proud..

Currently the Webzine is based on > Facebook because its free and organised so news is reported there until we sort something better out.. We will open a post here with a layout here at GTP when we get more 'likes' and stuff to put in the mag, get things moving. There is no scope to open up the magazine to post style thread Webzine. That would just be a nonstarter. FAIL !
Would look messy and not very easy to find your way round our Content..
If I did the current structure would make the post look like a spamming ground with no structure... Look at our Facebook... NO CONTENT!! But there has been foundations put in place to make it a great source of information related to drift and help bridge that gap like we keep saying..

Its a big world out there and there are lots of gamers missing out on a chilled drift session. Drift is THE only flavour of the game that has Style and that’s why we and I... like working with such material.. Sticker bombing...Graffiti... you know the scene. Drift is my passion for creative inspiration ;-)

I contacted Jordan and he is aware of our actions here and plans to migrate to a full blown Webzine based on its own Domain.. This is not possible atm as there is nothing to show.. But we are trying ;-)) believe me we are..

1) Sorry I have already answered this question.. Let’s work with the something we can produce for your pleasure ;-) & We are in no way related to the motor Industry.. RiFTW0RkS is our only branch out and that’s nothing to do with our work elsewhere. I have explained all this! We work in a mixed bag of circles for Creative Digital Media.. Does this tell you enough to leave us alone now on this?

RiFTW0RkS is run mainly in my own spare time at the moment...The Team of creatives I have pulled together will be Putting together the complete package to produce the best Drift mag ever related to Virtual Drifting.... This will be verymuch like JDM option Mag..

The D0RiKiN was our attempt at running a new style Drift competition using the skills we have to produce something fresh that has not really been done to this standard before here...

Im really interested in developing ideas that will help pen down the fine details needed to organise and define rules for our first ever event.. It was called the Proving ground and was going to be a Tandem event.. JDM Style.. D1 cars only...

If you look at the poster and read the vague information on it this should all start to make sense.. Its just the post got locked after we teased you all with it , without providing information or any sign we knew what we were doing...

I really would like to run with this idea and get some reporting done...!

 

[GODfreyGT5]

I thought I asked you to answer me straight.

Give me answers, one sentence each.

Let's try again.

RiFTW0RkS
We really are no noobs to organisation and media for events..

May I ask two things.

1. Can you please link us something, anything you have produced to back up your statement.

2. Asside from people agreeing to help as camera cars or recoders, how many people are actually behind 'RiFTW0RkS', you keep refering to yourself as 'us' or 'we', and it really leaves things a bit unanswered or confusing.

And please answer straight, ditch the odd way you seem to piece together your points and what you are trying to say.

 

[RiFTW0RkS]

I thought I asked you to answer me straight.

Give me answers, one sentence each.

Let's try again.

1) NO and for reasons see above I am not putting clients work (logo's,fliers,weblinks,adverts,branded Media,Print Media,Posters,Letterheads,buisness cards, Corporate Media (Video/Audio Productions), SEO etc etc Whatever else we get upto its a big buisness the Creative Industry.. Is not to go on here for public display in a community that is not related.. Especialy to prove to you who we are and what we do.. Your friend asked and we refuse to link a branded buisness name, one to which pays all our bills and mix it up here with the rep we have !!! W deal with a very different customer day to day !! What we are doing with RiFTW0RkS as a branded drift mag is soley a fun thing for us to get involved in.

2) I completely explained and gave a comprehensive answer above.. I dont understand your beligerant efforts to snoop and spy on our private and profesional life thats NOT RELATED to any content we will bring here and the skills up our sleeves..

I cant waste any more time going over this... You can read the post topic and i really would like to keep it on topic..

I wont reply to anymore questions asking for answers about me or my buisness out of this world, The people who work for it and the whole complex network at our fingertips.. I have got limited time to put to this and atm its being wasted here going over and over.. You can be with us and we really want people like you to manipulate this Webzine/GTP Drift Mag into something your all excited about.. After all you guys will be in it...

Godfrey... I really will have to ignore anymore poking.. And try to keep this all on thread..

Please can we do that ? Your persitent efforts to find out who I am in RL and who the creatives all work for, is totaly wrong of you..

Stop please.

 

[daan]

1) NO and for reasons see above I am not putting clients work (logo's,fliers,weblinks,adverts,branded Media,Print Media,Posters,Letterheads,buisness cards, Corporate Media (Video/Audio Productions), SEO etc etc Whatever else we get upto its a big buisness the Creative Industry.. Is not to go on here for public display in a community that is not related.. Especialy to prove to you who we are and what we do.. Your friend asked and we refuse to link a branded buisness name, one to which pays all our bills and mix it up here with the rep we have !!! W deal with a very different customer day to day !! What we are doing with RiFTW0RkS as a branded drift mag is soley a fun thing for us to get involved in.

So why don't you just produce a video even if it's just an edit of you driving round a track to see what you are capable of?

 

[RiFTW0RkS]

So why don't you just produce a video even if it's just an edit of you driving round a track to see what you are capable of?

That will be the D0RiKiN..

Our Drift Sessions are our chance to do that.. There will be no previews just the real deal once we get moving here...

 

[Cerebus]

I dont think I'm going to be much of a fan of this magazine if it's going to look like your drift comp flier does. There's just too much stuff going on at once on it, wich makes it really hard (for me personally) to get the information I need to know if I'm interested or not.

All that made me stop reading said flier all together.

Less is more when it comes to flier/magazine layouts.

And like Daan said, I too would like to see a quick edit of some drifting to see what kind of things you're capable of doing with the use of different camera angles, the smoothness of the camera car (I have experience in following drifters as a camera car so I know how hard it is to stay smooth and close at the same time).

Cause watching a GT5 drift video wich only has the standard camera angles with sudden smoke covering the entire screen as the camera switches is not fun to watch at all.

 

[RiFTW0RkS]

I dont think I'm going to be much of a fan of this magazine if it's going to look like your drift comp flier does. There's just too much stuff going on at once on it, wich makes it really hard (for me personally) to get the information I need to know if I'm interested or not.

All that made me stop reading said flier all together.

Less is more when it comes to flier/magazine layouts.

And like Daan said, I too would like to see a quick edit of some drifting to see what kind of things you're capable of doing with the use of different camera angles, the smoothness of the camera car (I have experience in following drifters as a camera car so I know how hard it is to stay smooth and close at the same time).

Cause watching a GT5 drift video wich only has the standard camera angles with sudden smoke covering the entire screen as the camera switches is not fun to watch at all.

The flier was a perfect success for the brief outlined by myself to create some interest before releasing the final details before the event started.. The date is in bold on the flier and it did say more details to follow.. We were getting eager to launch the show and maybe jumped the gun before explains what it was all about.. After all we have been planning and thinking about this for more than a few posts on gtp...

This week all hell broke loose and its distracted from our persitent challenge ahead.

We agree that we have shared limited material with you guys and sorry you think the poster is rubbish.. We cant please everyone and we did not really explain ourselves.

We have lots of stuff we have done and its not related.. We wanted to cover the vdc and do stuff for that this coming season... That was planned and all these things were in the pipe.. Material was almost about to start coming.. We have contacted official bodies and made moves to initiate a rapour that was with Tuners on here, Teams and Comps... We have limited GT5 Material its all other stuff we can use after we get the Main content.

You lot drifting ;-)))) We have not got any footage yet.. Only us driving round and thats not very original or cool. As a first Video show we wanted to make it a good one... Something special and that takes time... We only just got the cams sorted that was our main problem, We overcame that ! And got in place a system were we can collect various angles and cleverly put it together here at the studio... The hardware to do this is not just your average homebuild.

I got hit by a large bus here this week and its stalled the process to get some stuff out..

Yes I know we have nothing to show...(yet)
What we have done and have planned has taken more than a few weeks..

If you just wait and give us a chance all this will come together...

Atm I am still trying to win you guys over to a neat little production we could have going here.....

 

[fcpmarcus]

Have you even joined any of the major events happening within the week!? There are soo many events that you could have exposed yourself in: Formula D, Team hosted public lobbies ( our NEMESIS Night Slide, Redsuns's Meets, etc.), Legion Drift Comp, you already know about VDC...

If you cant really understand our community from GTP, at least try to join in the drifting itself and see what we are all about. As many people have said already, you seem like some random person who thinks he knows a lot, but really doesn't know jack ****. Instead of continually asking questions for suggestions, why wont you add to your preparation and attend some of these events so that you get an actual idea what our drifting community is all about.

This is in no way to attack you, but it is really frustrating to see you keep asking questions when you haven't even TRIED to get to know our community in a logical way.

Edit: By joining the events, I don't mean you actually have to drift in them. Hell, i don't even known if you can actually drift in the game.

 

[RiFTW0RkS]

Have you even joined any of the major events happening within the week!? There are soo many events that you could have exposed yourself in: Formula D, Team hosted public lobbies ( our NEMESIS Night Slide, Redsuns's Meets, etc.), Legion Drift Comp, you already know about VDC...

If you cant really understand our community from GTP, at least try to join in the drifting itself and see what we are all about. As many people have said already, you seem like some random person who thinks he knows a lot, but really doesn't know jack ****. Instead of continually asking questions for suggestions, why wont you add to your preparation and attend some of these events so that you get an actual idea what our drifting community is all about.

This is in no way to attack you, but it is really frustrating to see you keep asking questions when you haven't even TRIED to get to know our community in a logical way.

Your lacking background information to be able to make such a statement...

I have been... Or I WAS....

 

[SeanWelland]

Your lacking background information to be able to make such a statement...

Do you mean he's lacking background information on RiFTW0RkS or the drifting community? Because I think he pretty much nailed it in the drifting community - and nobody here knows anything regarding your background information due to the fact you wont show us any work (although being the content creator of such work, you should be flaunting your work so we can see what you can do rather than just saying so. This is the internet, it's a "TITS or GTFO" place, as much as you would like - we can't just take your word for it.)

 

[fcpmarcus]

You have completely missed my point. What I'm trying to say is... before you make any video or at least to better prepare yourself for your upcoming webzine, why don't you at the very least attend one of the MANY events we have during the week... this isn't rocket science -.-

As for my background within the community... I'm probably one of the most active drifters on GTP. I've attended almost every tournament, my team has been hosting public lobbies since November of last year, and I drift with mostly every team on here.

 

[DGambino1]

Speaking for Godfrey and myself, we do not care who you are in real life. We do not care to know your real name, where you live, the car you drive, etc. We just want to know why you keep referring to "we" when it seems like it's only you. You talk about "clients works" but what exactly are you referring too? That makes no sense at all and what would that have to do with a video game or your "fun" publication?

What is so hard about covering VDC or Formula D series? Ask the guys who are heading those up (Spank & LVRacerGT respectively) to use the materials they are posting up. It is that easy. Hell Ant even live streamed the event (I think if he used Justin.TV it would archive it).

I get it - you are doing this for fun. I respect that. Hell, I want you to succeed at this because I think it would be a nice thing for the GT5 drift scene. However, you are trying to hard in your posts to sound "professional" but it just doesn't work. Everything is vague and cryptic and you sound like a prat (just being honest). If you are business minded - use that internally to further your project. Keep it casual here. There is a time and place for business and casual. You will NOT win us over with constant talk, talk, talk.

Look at JrDarkness latest comp video. He used a video of mine I published on Youtube in his own video and gave us credit. It was clean and tastefully done (shout out to JrD).

Here is my FREE tip for you: You want respect and further help - publish something.
You could put out a 3-page (hell even a 2-page) downloadable PDF as a first issue and expand from there. Host it on a file serve site (Google Docs, Scribd). All of this could be done for free. "If you build it, they will come."

OK. This will be my last post here until something is produced. I have posted 2 very relevant and extremely informative posts here for you which should be all you need to get started in putting something out. No one will fault you for putting out a little something and building on that into a big something.

I'm just trying to help you get this out of the "talking" stage and into the "doing" stage.

Good luck.

 

[Cerebus]

Sean is right, I wouldn't want to contribute my photos and video clips if I didn't know what the outcome would be. No offence, but I don't want my photos being produced in a badly edited "webzine" or my video clips badly edited with Windows Movie Maker.

 

[Meandog]

1) NO and for reasons see above I am not putting clients work (logo's,fliers,weblinks,adverts,branded Media,Print Media,Posters,Letterheads,buisness cards, Corporate Media (Video/Audio Productions), SEO etc etc Whatever else we get upto its a big buisness the Creative Industry.. Is not to go on here for public display in a community that is not related.. Especialy to prove to you who we are and what we do.. Your friend asked and we refuse to link a branded buisness name, one to which pays all our bills and mix it up here with the rep we have !!! W deal with a very different customer day to day !! What we are doing with RiFTW0RkS as a branded drift mag is soley a fun thing for us to get involved in.

I think he mean't get some original GT5 media and post it, not something your company does, that would be irrelevant. Also I agree with everyone else who posted above.

so...

"TITS or GTFO"

 

[daan]

That will be the D0RiKiN..

Our Drift Sessions are our chance to do that.. There will be no previews just the real deal once we get moving here...

Your example video is a locked thread? No wonder no one wants to help or believe you when you don't seem to want to help yourself. That was the perfect opportunity to show why people should "join" you but you just shove it back at us.

Lets try a different tack. What equipment do you use to record videos from GT5?

 

[RiFTW0RkS]

The thread got locked before i got time to post content... The equipment we use are high end workstations and hd capture hardware and around 5 software packages mainly we would use to make the movie.. there are around 4 capable machines to work with the editing... Only one machine is connected to the PS.. We would capture on this and then distribute to the team to edit the best bits... my job would be motion graphics and final edits...sound and effects that work with the video edits would be done by my collegue at work.....

EDIT...Im off here for a few days... I will be back shortly with a more impresive plan and possibly less talk more action. The glass house is destroyed will be back when ive got the windows fixed.....