Cannot beat A-3 with BMW Coupe
- Thread starter youthman
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- Newcastle, NSW, Australia
- mrvajj
Try another test? The only way I got silver was almost cheating, so I know your pain. I cannot understand why I'm so slow on that damn course. I'm pretty handy on all the other tracks, so I reckon someone has found a cheaty way of getting quick times.
- 2,674
- Québec
- GTP_WorstDriver
If you're doing that with professional physics, try with standard physics
If you're playing with a sixaxis switch to a wheel
If you're playing with a sixaxis switch to a wheel
I found this to be the hardest test but I've got Gold a few times now. Earlier Specs of GT5P acutally had the Gold time even lower - 1:12.5 I think....
Standard physics and wheel are a must. Most important section is the up hill bends mid way through - you need to carry a lot of speed through this section.
Also the final left corner coming into the finish you can try and slam into the barried without breaking and this can help. However, you can get gold without "cheating" - I did that last week,
Standard physics and wheel are a must. Most important section is the up hill bends mid way through - you need to carry a lot of speed through this section.
Also the final left corner coming into the finish you can try and slam into the barried without breaking and this can help. However, you can get gold without "cheating" - I did that last week,
- 2,674
- Québec
- GTP_WorstDriver
how can you cheat on eiger ???
- 20,145
- Australia
- VIPERGTS01
Thx guys. I am using standard physics and do not have a wheel. I have completed gold in all of the A class except this board. Very frustrating. I just tried it again and was able to get in the 1:14 range to get silver but I'm still 2 seconds away from Gold. Guess I'll just have to try and try again. The hill is slow, especially the super sharp right turn. I'm using automatic too, I should probably work on manual trans so I can control the gears better. Might help with the climb.
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Tomaz
(Banned)
- 751
- TomLeeChan
- Say what?
One way of cheating is to ram into the barrier, where Switzerland flag is hanging (last corners).
I remember that event, it made my eyes bleed becuase of the nerves. The first S corner has to be fast, but not too fast, just slightly pull of the gas. When exiting the corner you slightly hit the fense but be careful not to crash into tunnel. Next problem is a corner when you come out of the tunnel. Start braking at the point when you exit the tunnel. The up-hill corners are also important, be as fast as you can. But be sure, you don't brake too late. And there are still left the last corners. Here you can drive clean or you can cheat by raming the Switzerland flag.
Good luck!
I remember that event, it made my eyes bleed becuase of the nerves. The first S corner has to be fast, but not too fast, just slightly pull of the gas. When exiting the corner you slightly hit the fense but be careful not to crash into tunnel. Next problem is a corner when you come out of the tunnel. Start braking at the point when you exit the tunnel. The up-hill corners are also important, be as fast as you can. But be sure, you don't brake too late. And there are still left the last corners. Here you can drive clean or you can cheat by raming the Switzerland flag.
Good luck!
- 2,674
- Québec
- GTP_WorstDriver
Try with manual transmission when you will master it you will see a difference.
Never drive with automatic it always slows you down and if you're driving with assists turn them off (exept the ABS put it at 1 or turn it off it depends on your driving style) you will get more momentum out of the corners but you have to be careful on the gas pedal.
good luck
Never drive with automatic it always slows you down and if you're driving with assists turn them off (exept the ABS put it at 1 or turn it off it depends on your driving style) you will get more momentum out of the corners but you have to be careful on the gas pedal.
good luck
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wise words, +1!
- 2,073
- Newcastle, NSW, Australia
- mrvajj
Fair enough, the last time I had a go at this test it was a lot harder. I think it was the spec one physics (wheelspin city). I might have another go today now that I have a G25
- 162
- GTP_VR6_CLUB & GTHQ_VR6_CLUB
use some walls 
- 1,534
- Bazra1985
- xSHAx BaZrA
Also struggling with this one - although i have to start GT5p all over again 
Dam PS3 gave me an error code and had to format the HD as it would not play any games or blu rays.
My best time on this was 1.14,9xx could not get anywhere near the gold time - i was also struggling with the EVO in the B-Class to get gold
Dam PS3 gave me an error code and had to format the HD as it would not play any games or blu rays.My best time on this was 1.14,9xx could not get anywhere near the gold time - i was also struggling with the EVO in the B-Class to get gold
- 3,130
- HaylRayzor
I finally got gold when I stopped trying to go fast and concentrated on being smooth.
The switchbacks are the key to this track. If you are pushing through the hairpins your lap is hosed. Slow down and go faster.
The switchbacks are the key to this track. If you are pushing through the hairpins your lap is hosed. Slow down and go faster.
definitely the hardest test in the game for me. I had gold on everything but this and I wasn't even close to the 1:14 for gold. I put the game down for a couple months and came back to it, and got it fairly quickly. As stated before the wheel, manual trans, standard physics, assists off are a must.
The biggest help for me was really getting a good jump out of the last corner so that you start your lap as fast as possible. Then on the hairpins i found it helped me most to slow down/downshift but not all the way to my desired low speed, then a quick brake tap before the apex while turning to get the car pointed in the right direction and able to floor it coming out of the turn.
Practice, practice, practice and pay attention to your lap and section times. Try different techniques to see what gets you the best time on each section and then attempt to put all of the sections together... Good luck....
The biggest help for me was really getting a good jump out of the last corner so that you start your lap as fast as possible. Then on the hairpins i found it helped me most to slow down/downshift but not all the way to my desired low speed, then a quick brake tap before the apex while turning to get the car pointed in the right direction and able to floor it coming out of the turn.
Practice, practice, practice and pay attention to your lap and section times. Try different techniques to see what gets you the best time on each section and then attempt to put all of the sections together... Good luck....
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- London
- GTP_Stotty
Just had a quick go at this as last time I got gold I used standard physics... got gold at the 3rd attempt, but this time using pro (1'13.993).
Few hints...
The M3 doesn't like to turn and brake at the same time, so make sure you brake early and ease off the brakes when you turn in... you can only be on partial brakes (<50%) whilst turning.
Take all of the the fast right left in 4th gear, and brake gently/ease off early for the left part... maximise you exit speed, not your apex speed (aiming to get under 11.00 for T1).
You can brake quite late for the corner after the tunnel - change down to 3rd and make sure you ease off the brakes before turning for the 1st apex, then coast out wide, wait for the nose to settle back towards the 2nd apex and pick up the throttle gently... you needn't be on full throttle until almost the fence on the outside.
Brake early for the corner at the bottom of the hill and make sure you're off the brakes before turning hard for the apex... if you do this you can get the wheel straight quickly and be back on full throttle quite quickly. This is the trick for the next 3 corners... ease off early, let the nose get to the apex without applying too much lock and understeering, then get on partial throttle early... easing on more gas as you wind off the lock.
The final corner should be taken in 3rd and treated as one long corner... brake hard for the 1st apex, ease off before turning, and let the car ease out wide and settle back on line for the 2nd apex... then pick up partial thottle, increasing the gas as you wind off the lock.
Good luck 👍
EDIT: Just tried it in standard (1'12.343)... same principals apply, but you can be much more aggressive with the throttle as there's a load more rear grip.
Few hints...
The M3 doesn't like to turn and brake at the same time, so make sure you brake early and ease off the brakes when you turn in... you can only be on partial brakes (<50%) whilst turning.
Take all of the the fast right left in 4th gear, and brake gently/ease off early for the left part... maximise you exit speed, not your apex speed (aiming to get under 11.00 for T1).
You can brake quite late for the corner after the tunnel - change down to 3rd and make sure you ease off the brakes before turning for the 1st apex, then coast out wide, wait for the nose to settle back towards the 2nd apex and pick up the throttle gently... you needn't be on full throttle until almost the fence on the outside.
Brake early for the corner at the bottom of the hill and make sure you're off the brakes before turning hard for the apex... if you do this you can get the wheel straight quickly and be back on full throttle quite quickly. This is the trick for the next 3 corners... ease off early, let the nose get to the apex without applying too much lock and understeering, then get on partial throttle early... easing on more gas as you wind off the lock.
The final corner should be taken in 3rd and treated as one long corner... brake hard for the 1st apex, ease off before turning, and let the car ease out wide and settle back on line for the 2nd apex... then pick up partial thottle, increasing the gas as you wind off the lock.
Good luck 👍
EDIT: Just tried it in standard (1'12.343)... same principals apply, but you can be much more aggressive with the throttle as there's a load more rear grip.
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- TruCHa6-T-3
I got 1'14.433'' with pro physics everything off, abs set to 1, manual tranny. The trick is beating the hell out of the hairpins. I've practiced so much in the Lancia for the last set of time trial events before the new ones. Never came back to try for gold, but I did notice races get easier when set to standard physics when I couldn't do the ferrari 430 run starting in last. Switched to standard and got silver on first try. Does anyone know why the physics make so much of a difference? I would imagine the pro physics would be your best shot for every race but its really not.
- 3,130
- HaylRayzor
Pro physics has less overall grip, and especially less grip when the tires are sliding. In std you can easily recover if you start to slide, or even just drift through the corner and keep control. In pro you will find that the tires stick almost as well up to the point where you break loose, but then you have almost no traction at all. In std you can bury the throttle coming off every corner even in 500hp cars. Not so pro.
The TT times and AI cars are the same in both physics (I've tested the AI lap times in both settings and they are identical). So you have less traction but the AI cars have the same.
The result (imo) is that most of the tests are too easy in std so that they aren't impossible in pro. Faster AI cars and lower TT times in std would even things out.
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- TruCHa6-T-3
ooOOO that makes sense, never really monitored the times of the AI. But I agree with your traction theory because I can relate it between the two different physic settings
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- asia_minor
this event is a tough bastard. the main key is to maintain and carry speed. It is way too easy to lose more speed than necessary in the left before the tunnel, the hairpin after the tunnel, the uphill hairpins.
i was pretty proud of myself when i broke silver on pro physics (spec III)
Stotty you are a god for being able to do gold on pro physics. But gives me something to strive for one I finish up all the other events.
i was pretty proud of myself when i broke silver on pro physics (spec III)
Stotty you are a god for being able to do gold on pro physics. But gives me something to strive for one I finish up all the other events.
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after reading this thread i decided to go back and try to get gold on this event, and i did. along with the eiger course in the evo.
so that makes all golds, finally.
EDIT: i'm not really sure how, i did the event two or three times and just kinda zoned out out in the game. tried to be as smooth as possible.
so that makes all golds, finally.
EDIT: i'm not really sure how, i did the event two or three times and just kinda zoned out out in the game. tried to be as smooth as possible.
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- steviematt
My friend found the event much easier after he updated his game. He had not updated it online since he bought it and i could only mange to get silver at his house and he could hardly get bronze. After the update we could both get gold times on it.
I wondered why and looked on the official website and found that the update made it easier because it updated the "Common Vehicle Physics"
· Improved controllability when using S1-S3, and R1-R3 tyres.
I wondered why and looked on the official website and found that the update made it easier because it updated the "Common Vehicle Physics"
· Improved controllability when using S1-S3, and R1-R3 tyres.
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- GTP_TrievelA7X
this race is one of 2 reasons i discovered "standard" physics... i couldn't beat this or the ferrari f40 one... than i tried standard.. wow was that easier
- 1,534
- Bazra1985
- xSHAx BaZrA
Damn it !
Ive never updated prologue cos i have been offline since i bought it around a month ago
waiting on telephone line in my new flat !
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- HaylRayzor
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- Misnblu
- Misnblu
So since we're on the topic of standard vs pro physics here, I've done all races on the pro physics and haven't done too bad, so far.
I'm really not sure why they even offered a difference of physics in the game if it's going to be easier to play with the standard physics.
I'm down to my last few races before I'm complete with the GT5P so maybe I'll try using some standard physics and see what happens.
And I only use standard transmission when I race and discovered the benefits of this as early as the GT3 game. I've never gone back since and never will.
Good info on this thread with the BMW though as this is one of the last races I've got to do.
I'm really not sure why they even offered a difference of physics in the game if it's going to be easier to play with the standard physics.
I'm down to my last few races before I'm complete with the GT5P so maybe I'll try using some standard physics and see what happens.
And I only use standard transmission when I race and discovered the benefits of this as early as the GT3 game. I've never gone back since and never will.
Good info on this thread with the BMW though as this is one of the last races I've got to do.
Just gave up of trying.
1:13:566 and finding out that's gonna be impossible to get faster than that.
I've tried to do as Stotty advised but this goddamn track don't give me a chance. Do you guys have any kind of marker in order to compare? Like speed at the turns or even the partial times?
I'm about to break everything because of this event.
1:13:566 and finding out that's gonna be impossible to get faster than that.
I've tried to do as Stotty advised but this goddamn track don't give me a chance. Do you guys have any kind of marker in order to compare? Like speed at the turns or even the partial times?
I'm about to break everything because of this event.
