Cant handle the DF-GT....help

[Scoop2004]

I recently got the DFGT and although i am ok with it on FWD cars (especially on high speed corners such as turn 2 and 3 of london) i am shockingly bad at tight turns (1&2,3&4 on eiger,going from right lock to left quickly) and when the bak end goes out it ends in tears (either oversteer into the wall or snap it back with too much opposite lock)

I cant find the balance,i need help. How did you get used to controlling slides with it? What settings do u use? (amatuer/sim/pro mode? FFB strength? Power assistance?) And would it be advisable to turn TC on and learn how to catch little slides before backing the TC off gradually?

 

[Kinetic]

Just practice practice practice.

Guess this will get moved to the Wheel section, however when i got mine it was frustrating like your experience however the only way to lean is to keep putting hours in, it's so rewarding though.

Just keep it pro and aids off and work at it

 

[Strittan]

I recently got the DFGT and although i am ok with it on FWD cars (especially on high speed corners such as turn 2 and 3 of london) i am shockingly bad at tight turns (1&2,3&4 on eiger,going from right lock to left quickly) and when the bak end goes out it ends in tears (either oversteer into the wall or snap it back with too much opposite lock)

I cant find the balance,i need help. How did you get used to controlling slides with it? What settings do u use? (amatuer/sim/pro mode? FFB strength? Power assistance?) And would it be advisable to turn TC on and learn how to catch little slides before backing the TC off gradually?

Were you good using the controller? Do you have a driver license in real life? Just curious.

I haven't tried GT5P with a wheel yet, but I'd guess the Lotus Elise with pro physics and all assists off does for some good practise.

Try to be smooth with the pedals (and the steering wheel as well for that matter). Gently brake into corners and gently give it throttle out of them.

 

[Raitziger]

FFB model has something for every player to get used to in this game.(it is not quite there with drifting feel) If you want try "jump to the water and learn to swim"- approach take 350z or some other +300 HP rwd car on worst tires to highspeed ring. That s-turn teaches nicely some car control in those conditions. (tuned 350z would be a good pick)

 

[zed300]

You maybe using too much turn on the tighter turns. The stronger the FFB the more feel you should have for where the front wheels are, in relation to grip.
I really depends on what level of driver you are, as to which settings, amatuer/sim/pro mode? FFB strength? Power assistance,you use.
As mentioned by Kinetic. Just practice practice practice.
The wheel you have chosen is the official one for GT5p, so just keep on keepin on.

 

[Marf]

Question: when you are taking these tight turns in an FWD car, are you just jumping straight off the gas onto the brakes?

 

[FoolKiller]

I recently got the DFGT and although i am ok with it on FWD cars (especially on high speed corners such as turn 2 and 3 of london) i am shockingly bad at tight turns (1&2,3&4 on eiger,going from right lock to left quickly) and when the bak end goes out it ends in tears (either oversteer into the wall or snap it back with too much opposite lock)

I cant find the balance,i need help. How did you get used to controlling slides with it? What settings do u use? (amatuer/sim/pro mode? FFB strength? Power assistance?) And would it be advisable to turn TC on and learn how to catch little slides before backing the TC off gradually?

Wait, are you going from full lock to full lock? I rarely ever hit the full stop on my wheel (DFP). What turning radius mode are you in? If you aren't getting a full 900 degrees of rotation, and are in 200 degree mode you may be whipping the wheels too far from one side to the other.

And remember, easy in easy out. One suggestion to get the feel is to take them slower and learn what degree of turn your wheel needs to have the most effective grip. Then speed up and work on learning your braking and acceleration points.

If you are turning too hard and slamming on your brakes you are going to upset your car somehow. Everything should be gentle and smooth.

 

[reaperman]

make sure you're not in standard physics, pro physics make the wheel much easier.
turn the wheel, don't ever let the wheel turn you or there will be trouble.

those were my two biggest problems starting out.

oh and feel free to go back to gt4, it's a bit easier to figure out what the wheel is trying to tell you in that game, and that may be of help.

 

[MasterDriver]

can't compare a controller and Wheel. I always use a wheel + chair + clutch now.

What was EASY with a controller takes alot of practice and timing with the wheel. Also you probably won't be able to drift anywhere close to the level of Angle you can achieve with a controller. It just takes too much time to turn it versus a simple push.

 

[balang_479]

You have GT5 already????

 

[BolgOfThe North]

I recently got the DFGT and although i am ok with it on FWD cars (especially on high speed corners such as turn 2 and 3 of london) i am shockingly bad at tight turns (1&2,3&4 on eiger,going from right lock to left quickly) and when the bak end goes out it ends in tears (either oversteer into the wall or snap it back with too much opposite lock)

I know exactly what you mean it took me ages to learn how to react when the back end goes out, the thing that got me was I wasn't straightening the wheel fast enough after counter-steering causing snap oversteer. In my case this was because with the DFGT (on Simulation setting I think) when the back end goes loose the wheel actually counter-steers for you but it doesn't straighten up for you so it was just a case of learning when to straighten the wheel for each car. I just suggest you practice driving every car on pro physics with no aids, you'll get it eventually.

As for the tight corners, full brakes initially gradually releasing as you approach the corner, turn the wheel fast on entry with slight throttle, smothly unwind the steering as soon as possible whilst gradually increasing the throttle.

I haven't tried GT5P with a wheel yet, but I'd guess the Lotus Elise with pro physics and all assists off does for some good practise.

Thats very true.

 

[finnracer]

by the way only the dfpro had the option of 900 or 200 degree steering but for some unusal reason the dfgt does not have a 200 degree function. hope it helps

 

[turbomp301]

also, after trying everything above me, you could adjust the turning angle of the tires in the quick tune menu.

 

[Scoop2004]

Ill try and answer all the questions as best i can, i always use pro physics in the game and never have TC or ASM turned on (i have used ASM once since ive had the wheel though,without it im struggling to get the F430 round a single lap)

1.Yes i have a full UK driving license and have had for over 6 years, i have driven manual cars,mainly FWD but have messed around in a manual E30 325i so i understand the theory of countersteering (i also take a keen intrest in physics and geometry of cars,and have watched many videos on "how to drive hard" and the drift bible)

2.Yes im good with the controller,at grip and drifting (my best online time in the integra on eiger is only 2 seconds off the best,which is ok)

3.Its set to 900 degrees,which is the only setting possible

4. I dont go full lock to full lock so using the phrase "steering lock" was poor, i do only use the amount of steering angle required to get round the corner,and i dont go in overly fast or be over aggresive with controls so im not understeering wildly through corners


Think ill run it in pro with FFB set to 6 maybe? and no power steering?

I may turn my max turning angle up on the quick tune so that 90 degrees of wheel movement gets me more roadwheel movement

Im off to run a low powered RWD car round high speed ring and see if i can work my way up to the limit and then control it beyond the limit...i think its gonna be impossible for me to drift anything with some real power