Cayenne: The Next Porsche

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What do you think of the Cayenne?

  • I hate it.

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • I love it.

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • No opinion.

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Originally posted by Powerman
I think it looks OK,but the Turbo Caynnene looks better.Its lower.
i agree. I dont know, im just not exactly an SUV lover. In fact, i hate them, strongly. theres no reason for them in suburbia, maybe in texas or somthing but where i live theres no need. Whatever blows your skirt up though, both the X5 and the Cayenne turbo are the best looking in my opinion.
chris
 
Originally posted by vat_man

Not really - don't forget this thing's a joint venture with VW. I don't think Porsche have got a whole lot riding on this financially - they're a lot smarter financially than they were 20 years ago.

Oh yeah - Troy - it's front engined.

Does anyone know the spec of the engines?




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Manufacturer/Tuner: Porsche
Year: 2001
Powertrain Layout:Rear Engine/4WD
Weight: NA
Engine: V-6
Displacement: 2.8 litre
Horsepower: NA Torque: NA
Transmission: Automatic
0-60 mph: NA
1/4 Mile: NA
Top Speed: NA
Price: $65k-$90k+
Skidpad: NA
Porsche. Reminds you of speed and sleekness. SUV. Reminds you of power and off-roading. What do you get when you put the two together? A project called "EV1". Result: The Cayenne - the new Porsche SUV that will be individually branded but jointly developed by Porsche and Volkswagen.

Porsche Cayenne



Why this odd combination of the name Porsche and a common SUV? This new 2002-2003 model year SUV is expected to boost Porsche's sales by about 50 percent. This off-road, permanently four-wheel drive vehicle is the combination of brains and brawn - the sleek outline of a well-known Porsche hiding a 300-horsepower 4.0-liter V-8 and optional 450-horsepower 5.0-liter twin-turbo V-8 engine that is not just limited to a racetrack. Redefining the SUV segment, the Cayenne is set to combine ultimate off road abilities with very sportscar-like on-road handling.




Porsche expects to sell between 20,000 and 25,000 units a year of its upcoming sport utility vehicle in the year 2002. However, this is just a safety precaution to test the public's demands - the company is capable of producing much more than that. Sheet metal pressings for the new sport utility vehicle will come from Hanover or Wolfsburg, axle and suspension components from Braunschweig, and the body shell will be built in Bratislava. Porsche is developing and will also be producing its own engines for the new SUV -- the engine will be produced in Zuffenhausen, where engines are currently produced for all other Porsche models. Two thirds of the SUV units will be exported, many to the U.S. where the demand is high for SUV's.






Here is a picture of the Cayenne after a test. Not "bad," eh. Actually there are quite many mixed comments on this new car. Many say it's a dumb risk - the Cayenne is sleek but nowhere as elegant or eye-pleasing as a Porsche is known to be. Duh, it's an SUV! Others feel like this Cayenne appeals to them - the combination of off-road power and on-road smooth handling is much too tempting. So do you go for looks or its stats? It's quite a decent car, I must say - doesn't look much worse than the BMW X5 and its stats are up there with the X5 (the price, too). The Cayenne will definitely give the X5 a run for its money.

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Article Posted: 2/21/01
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Originally posted by M5Power
I saw one picture -- a full, large picture -- in the new 'Newsweek', in a Porsche ad. That's the "What Bush Knew" Newsweek. Check it out, the ad's near the front.
i saw that! yeah, but troy, thats a good post.
 
Thats true. Most want luxury and the name of luxury than the name of a sports car. But whatever gets them excited, maybe porsche is hoping to convert some stationwagon-lovers to SUV-ers because of the performance :confused: i dunno, good luck to them though, the rest of their cars are wonderful, and id hate to see them lose lots of money to this.
chris
 
Originally posted by BMW POWER
the X5 is amazing, there is no SUV on the market that offers the same amount of performance and handling and i dont think the porsche will be a touch on it, but i do like the cayenne it aint bad looking.


X5, RX300, Cayenne -- all products nobody really asked for, none of which are great at anything except helping people lighten their wallets.

M-Class: bottom of the class it helped "move forward"; mish-mash of C-class and Grand Cherokee; top-heavy, sluggish, and fat all over; ML55 purest example of oxymoron: powerful enough for serious work, but chassis, suspension, & drivetrain get lost in the mud.

RX300: see M-Class, only lighter and more egg-shaped.

X5: a wonderful sportwagon on stilts; get all the size of an "SUV", the prestige of BMW, and none of the ability it was created for...but honestly, who takes these things off-road? Wouldn't a 330xi wagon [Volvo X-Country, Audi allroad, Subaru Outback/Impreza, E-Class wagon 4motion, etc.] have been more realistic (not to mention better handling)? And if so, why was it made in the first place? X5 4.6is was aiming for lowest gas mileage, only to be beaten by...

Cayenne: just plain stupid; not Fiat Multipla ugly, but certainly has a fat ass; stunning straight-line performance, no doubt, but would any Porsche suspension do well in 3" of snow? Wouldn't the allroad have been the way to go, especially since it exists already?

I live in an area (suburban NY) where there's enough snow to convince people that they "need" SUVs, and plenty of money to go around. Needless to say, I am inundated with ML's, RX's, X5's, LX470's/Land Cruisers, a smattering of Land Rovers, and a heavy dollop of Ford/Chevy bruisers. Traffic is slow (took only 10 years for the traffic to more than double), air is greying, and driver quality is down...way down. Just because you have a large truck-wannabe does not mean you can cut everyone off left-on-red-or-just-now-green. Honestly, I'm hoping for another gas crisis. Maybe then I can import an Elise....
 
Originally posted by M5Power
:D Last week, I read something somewhere that said its engine was front-mounted, like the Volkswagen it shares its platform with ('Touareg'). But a rear-mounted SUV engine'd be cool.

Mmm...if I'm coming down a very steep grade in low-range first, I'd really prefer that engine in front below me, rather than behind and above me....
 
Originally posted by M5Power
The M-Class was first, remember. And, if no one asked for the RX300, why is it the best-selling Lexus right now (topped by the ES, which has been around since the ES250, about ten years ago).

Find me one marketing study that, before its release, puts the RX300 at the top of anyone's want list. It was to compete with the small SUV market (RAV4, etc.), with the "prestige badge", and a LX470/Land Cruiser at a lower price point. It also allowed them to raise the price on the LX/LCruiser....

Originally posted by M5Power
Why DON'T we have the Elise? Maybe Proton could start MAKING money if we got it.

You can get them from an importer in California (www.sunspeed.com/pr_els01.html, $50,000, though). It doesn't come with the stock 1.8L, but comes with the Integra Type-R (B18C). A significant boost, but similar character, IMO.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
Why DON'T we have the Elise? Maybe Proton could start MAKING money if we got it.

Maybe you dont have the Elise where you live, but I have seen at least 15 of them in ATL, mostly in Buckhead, but when i went to Road Atlanta before the Petit Le Mans I saw 2 Exige, 3 Elise and many Esprit
 
Originally posted by M5Power
Oh, before it came out, yeah. But come on, it's hard to drive around and not see one. Real hard. Popularity for lux-SUV's has been huge (I've purchased two now), almost unexpected. But don't get me started on the Escalade and Navigator.

Right, that's my point. What better way to expand your market than to combine the percieved safety of an SUV with the luxury of a upper-class marque? It's all too excessive, and highly unnecessary...IMO.

The Elise engine, by the way, is one reason why it's so good. But V-TEC's nice. Proton CL have any plans to bring Elise over here?

Lotus had plans to bring the Elise over, back before v2 came out (along with whatever the M250 turned out to be), but major financial problems forced a scrapping of all that. Maybe they'll try next year (with TVR...<crosses fingers>). :cheerful:
 
meh, its only somewhat of a shame. Now if we could get some other cars and the gov to lighten up on air toxin restrictions that would be sweet and we could all lose the cats. But you can dream about anything, and our air would eventually be black soot.
troy thanks boostcreep and powerman, it reminded me about my old days using HTML.
what do you mean man? hmmmm, im lost, too... many... finall... exams.
chris
 
Originally posted by M5Power
Well, for me I needed an SUV but I also wanted something more luxurious than a freaking Cherokee or the like. So a "luxury SUV" was the natural choice.

"Natural" isn't the word I'd use. By the time the SUV is made luxurious, it's far from off-road-worthy (see: Lincoln Navigator). By the time the luxury car is made to be off-road-worthy...well, it never actually is, and it's lost a fair share of its "luxury" (see: BMW X5). This is the crux of the issue: it's a useless, exorbitant auto segment. What function can it really serve?

Hmmm. I don't think TVR will EVER come over here. Shame.

They've been in the U.S. since 1956, but only until the late 70's (major financial difficulties). With Wheeler at the helm and a solid European market standing, they're considering the U.S. again. Word has it they're waiting to see if Alfa can make it. ;)
 
I rather have the Audi Allroad than the kooky Cayenne.
Who designed this crap? There is no balance or what so ever, heck, the 914 is way better looking than this Porsche.
 
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