Chevrolet Volt/Cadillac ELR Thread: 2016 EPA Ratings

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The Bolt is certainly something out of left field, especially when you consider what Ford will be showing off across the hall. But, we've known for a while that GM wants to do a 200+ mile, all-electric model. I'm surprised that they aren't making it a Volt from the outset, pushing off a lot of well-recognized branding that's been around for years. Unless, of course, that the Bolt is the all-electric version of the Volt, which would make some sense.

Make it a 200+ mile car that's available as a wagon, in brown, for less than $30k, and Jalopnik will eat their hat.
 
Make it a 200+ mile car that's available as a wagon, in brown, for less than $30k, and Jalopnik will eat their hat.

You're forgetting a manual transmission too, although how that would work with an electric car is anyone's guess.
 
. Unless, of course, that the Bolt is the all-electric version of the Volt, which would make some sense.

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That's what I'm thinking it's going to be.

Wasn't the Volt supposed to be an all electric car, then just before it was released they said it was a extended range electric "hybrid" car ?
 
Wasn't the Volt supposed to be an all electric car, then just before it was released they said it was a extended range electric "hybrid" car ?

I seem to remember the Volt having a range extender from the get-go, which is where it was trying to step aside from a lot of the other EV/Hybrid competition. Although, I think there was a much bigger promise for electric range back then.
 
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'16 Volt

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It has a 4 door coupe look
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The rear looks kind of like a BMW i8 with Honda Civic taillights.
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I don't like the look of it.
 
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I think the Bolt is pretty alright. Good size, good capability, but we'll see if it's actually $30k, or "$30k after incentives." Either way, it's a good benchmark for Tesla to walk all over, probably, even if Chevrolet is doing a reasonable thing its own right.

The Volt on the other hand is much better than I had anticipated, especially with the interior. It's a real car by comparison to the first. Can't wait to see it in person.
 
The Volt looks alot nicer compared to old one it should be a better seller if the the drivetrain also has some improvements aswell.
The Bolt needs a some work up front yet its not very attractive atm.
 
The Volt gets a 10 mile increase in electric range, to an even 50 miles. Not bad, very usable even for a greater number of people, but there's always the argument that, if they made more sacrifices for efficiency (ie, making the car less luxurious), it could go further. The bigger question has to be how far the price will come down... Or if it will come down at all thanks to the Bolt. Even if it picks up where the current car leaves off, at $35k with these improvements, the Volt is still a pretty good deal if you are in the market for a PHEV.
 
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2014 Chevrolet Volt:

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I'd vote for it being a pretty substantial improvement over the previous one. Granted, I never really understood the hate for the Volt MKI setup, the MKII is much more regular car like, and that really broadens the appeal to more people. Thing is, Chevrolet has to shoehorn their dual-cabin blah blah blah styling in there, and while it isn't quite as successful as the interior of the Impala, it certainly isn't unattractive, either.

It'll come down to function, mostly. I really like how the infotainment system floats over the dash like some kind of tablet thats attached to it, and, it still gets analog knobs and buttons to do most things. That's a huge improvement compared to the last car.
 
I disagree. The design of the upper dash is exceedingly awful. Not to mention it actually looks cheap in the photographs, which is a bad sign. The old Volt actually has a nicer interior design to my eyes.
 
Did they design the center console to have a tablet stuck onto it as an afterthought? It looks rather strange.

It's a design element, a few companies have done it before. It looks stupid.
It's so you can look cool that you have a tablet in your car cause car designers are take advice from 10 year olds.
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I disagree. The design of the upper dash is exceedingly awful. Not to mention it actually looks cheap in the photographs, which is a bad sign. The old Volt actually has a nicer interior design to my eyes.

It mostly depended on which color boxes were selected, at least for me. The white of the center console would clash pretty hard with some of the door inserts with certain colors, and combined with what paint was outside, it could get pretty odd pretty quick.


Still, with a new one on the way, it does make me wonder how hard GM will be trying to kick the 2015 models out the door.
 
It's a design element, a few companies have done it before. It looks stupid.
It's so you can look cool that you have a tablet in your car cause car designers are take advice from 10 year olds.
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Not to mention Mazda unfortunately is one offender as well, starting with the 3, then the updated 6, then the new MX-5.
 
we'll see if it's actually $30k, or "$30k after incentives."
I believe, though I could be mistaken, that GM is one of the few automakers who doesn't quote post-incentive pricing when they're advertising sticker prices. Even Tesla is guilty of hacking that $7.5k tax rebate from their prices. We used to always call out manufacturers that did that when I wrote for Green Car Reports.
I vote for it being a pretty substantial improvement over the previous one. Granted, I never really understood the hate for the Volt MKI setup, the MKII is much more regular car like, and that really broadens the appeal to more people. Thing is, Chevrolet has to shoehorn their dual-cabin blah blah blah styling in there, and while it isn't quite as successful as the interior of the Impala, it certainly isn't unattractive, either.
I quite liked the old Volt's cabin. Its biggest problem was that it looked cheaper than it felt - the white plastic on the dashboard was meant to be iPod like, and it felt it too, but it looked too cheap. And the gap in the dash for the shifter was a neat idea, but in practise it just looked odd.
It's so you can look cool that you have a tablet in your car cause car designers are take advice from 10 year olds.
There's actually a relatively logical reason for putting it where Mercedes puts it. Two logical reasons, in fact. I asked them about it one time.

One is that it's a much more sensible idea than having a system that pops out of the dashboard - it's simpler, cheaper, more reliable and makes more sense, since the pop-out systems are basically always there when you're driving anyway. What's the point of having a movable screen if it's only hidden when you're not even using the car? May as well fix it somewhere instead.

The other is for cooling. Some of these screens are chewing up a lot of power and outputting a lot of heat. Anyone who has used an iPad for a decent amount of time before will be aware of this. Having it sitting proud of the dash is much better for heat dissipation.

I actually don't even mind the look of them, in general. In the new MX-5 mentioned above it means the dash itself can be nice and simple, rather than them having to design a massive sculpted orifice in which to place the screen. Ditto in the Mercs, really - I'm not a fan of the dashboard real estate screens take up in BMWs, Volvos etc.

Unfortunately, Merc's way of doing it is better in theory than in practice. In reality, they look a bit too cheap, they aren't touch screens even though they're positioned in such a way that people assume they are, and in every example I've driven the screen has always creaked as it heated and cooled.
 
It's a design element, a few companies have done it before. It looks stupid.
It's so you can look cool that you have a tablet in your car cause car designers are take advice from 10 year olds.
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I don't get why people think it looks stupid. It gives depth and texture to the dash overall. It looks like an iPad mounted on the dash which everybody agrees is a wonderful idea. It is meant to be the center of information on the dash so it's important that it stands out and looks different. Also, because it's separate the rest of the dash design can continue uninterrupted as in the Benzo pic you posted.

My only disappointment about the new Volt interior is that it doesn't have a push-button or twist-knob shifter.
 
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There's actually a relatively logical reason for putting it where Mercedes puts it. Two logical reasons, in fact. I asked them about it one time.

One is that it's a much more sensible idea than having a system that pops out of the dashboard - it's simpler, cheaper, more reliable and makes more sense, since the pop-out systems are basically always there when you're driving anyway. What's the point of having a movable screen if it's only hidden when you're not even using the car? May as well fix it somewhere instead.

The other is for cooling. Some of these screens are chewing up a lot of power and outputting a lot of heat. Anyone who has used an iPad for a decent amount of time before will be aware of this. Having it sitting proud of the dash is much better for heat dissipation.

Even with pop up screen I still looks like a tablet that's just placed there not part of the car.
I like it when it looks more integrated into the dash. It can still be top mount but have it flow with the rest of the dash.
They can have a few vents with fan to help with cooling.

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I actually don't even mind the look of them, in general. In the new MX-5 mentioned above it means the dash itself can be nice and simple, rather than them having to design a massive sculpted orifice in which to place the screen. Ditto in the Mercs, really - I'm not a fan of the dashboard real estate screens take up in BMWs, Volvos etc.

Unfortunately, Merc's way of doing it is better in theory than in practice. In reality, they look a bit too cheap, they aren't touch screens even though they're positioned in such a way that people assume they are, and in every example I've driven the screen has always creaked as it heated and cooled.

I don't get why people think it looks stupid. It gives depth and texture to the dash overall. It looks like an iPad mounted on the dash which everybody agrees is a wonderful idea. It is meant to be the center of information on the dash so it's important that it stands out and looks different. Also, because it's separate the rest of the dash design can continue uninterrupted as in the Benzo pic you posted.

My only disappointment about the new Volt interior is that it doesn't have a push-button or twist-knob shifter.

I just don't like the look of it. It looks aftermarket part add to the car.

You can buy a mount online and put your tablet in it, to have the same look for an old car. Which looks alright but in a new car from the factory not so much.
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I like it when it looks more integrated into the dash. It can still be top mount but have it flow with the rest of the dash.
The trouble is, most modern screens are really too big to integrate into the dash without taking up too much real estate.

Something like this:

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or this:

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or this:

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...just looks daft to me - they've had to add a whole extra layer to the dash, or stick the screen in a box somewhere, to fit it there. You can't put the screen any lower down because that would be ergonomically atrocious, and if you have it emerging from the dash then it's a bit Heath Robinson because you're using all that extra engineering to hide something that's only hidden when you're not in the car in the first place.

On another note, I find the integrated screens make interiors feel more claustrophobic, as they require a much taller, cliff-like dashboard.

But have it stand proud of the dash:

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...and it looks like it's floating there, independent of whatever design you've used in the background.

Of course, personal taste is personal taste, but I think you're stretching it a bit likening it to that aftermarket one you posted, which is very visibly a tablet in a holder thing nailed to the top of the dashboard.
 
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Well, It's An Improvement!


The EPA rated range jumps from 38 miles to 53, and jumps its MPGe rating from 98 to 106. Total range? 420 miles... Like a normal car.

So, as blandish as the looks may be, its more or less the mild EV that people have wanted. It'll be interesting to see how sales shake out with the Cruze looking so similar, too.
 
Did I just read that right? An EV which can go 420 miles? :odd: Alright...as boring as it is (though, better than the other non-Corvette and Camaro Chevy's) I can say that that is an "ok" car, and a pretty good EV. 👍
 
Well, its an extended range EV. The electric-only mode is 53 miles, which jumps pretty far ahead of the Ford C-Max Energi and Toyota Prius Plug-In... But its still a good bit behind the pure EVs from Nissan, Honda, and others.
 
It's a design element, a few companies have done it before. It looks stupid.
It's so you can look cool that you have a tablet in your car cause car designers are take advice from 10 year olds.
M-B GLA
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I also agree it looks stupid, looks like someone stuck a cheap satnav on top of the dash and it's a step back for car interiors IMO. There is no reason why they couldn't integrate the screen properly or even have it pop up from the top like in older Volvo's. They just need to move the air vents to the sides of the screen like some other manufacturers have done.
 
The main competitors to the Volt are :
- 2016 (ugly) Prius
- 2016 (weird looking) Leaf


The VOlt is a looker compared to any other ...

The more i look at it... The more i want it ..

I really think the Bolt is great looking!!!

Really please with what Chevrolet is doing lately design-wise:
Camaro
Malibu
Cruze
...
 
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