Classic Car Stability (without adding a wing)

[Hurball]

I've been trying for a while now to get classic cars more "driveable" in GT7, without losing too much of their character - i.e. I don't want to slap on a giant wing and throw in turbochargers/racing clutches etc and tune these for pure pace

I only started playing GT7 not long before the physics update came out, so I haven't been able to try any of these pre-patch, but it feels like classic cars like the Jaguar E-Type and the Merc 300SL are realllllly difficult to keep in a straight line and it ruins the fun for them.

For the E-Type I've tried so many different combinations of tyres, suspension heights, differential settings, ballast, but it feels like unless I add an ugly wing to the back of the car it will always lose the rear end at speed or when cornering, making it a really tricky car to drive. The 300SL is worse.

Basically does anybody have any suggestions or any tunes for old cars that work post physics patch? I'm not even necessarily looking for a full tune, more of an insight into how to get these cars to stay on the track without being Max Verstappen.

 

[AlexWilmot]

Here’s my work in progress on the Jag that I used at LeMans 30min race once and seemed to work,

Take what you will from it to help with older cars.

 

[daan]

@bigmull has a large classic car garage.

The Doc's Classic Car Tunes Emporium.

I think its best to put all my Tunes in one place,so here goes. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-doc%E2%80%99s-classic-car-tunes-honda-s800.419784/ All Tunes are on Le Mans ,700pp or less and I use the Handset and NOT steering wheel.

www.gtplanet.net

 

[jlbmel]

@bigmull has a large classic car garage.

The Doc's Classic Car Tunes Emporium.

I think its best to put all my Tunes in one place,so here goes. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-doc%E2%80%99s-classic-car-tunes-honda-s800.419784/ All Tunes are on Le Mans ,700pp or less and I use the Handset and NOT steering wheel.

www.gtplanet.net

Those tunes are before the 1.49 update (except for the Mercedes that was recently added) and probably will not be of any help.

 

[eran0004]

Try stiffer springs and anti-roll bar in the front and a little more camber in the rear.

 

[lbpomg95]

What tyres would you prefer to run these cars on? Racing tyres and no rear downforce don't go well together at all.

If tuning for sports tyres, they're fairly easy to sort out - the only issue you'll have is high-speed stability. Without downforce, classic cars will get pretty squirrely above 150-ish mph

 

[Hurball]

What tyres would you prefer to run these cars on? Racing tyres and no rear downforce don't go well together at all.

If tuning for sports tyres, they're fairly easy to sort out - the only issue you'll have is high-speed stability. Without downforce, classic cars will get pretty squirrely above 150-ish mph

I have no preference for tyres - all I want is to get the car more manegeable

Am I incorrect in my simple logic that racing tyres = more grip = less likely to lose the rear end when turning? I just assumed stickier tyres would lead to improved handling as a result, but from your comment it looks like I'm bring too simplistic


Thanks to the other suggestions as well - I'll give the Jaguar tune suggested above a go and post back with the results

 

[lbpomg95]

I have no preference for tyres - all I want is to get the car more manegeable

Am I incorrect in my simple logic that racing tyres = more grip = less likely to lose the rear end when turning? I just assumed stickier tyres would lead to improved handling as a result, but from your comment it looks like I'm bring too simplistic


Thanks to the other suggestions as well - I'll give the Jaguar tune suggested above a go and post back with the results

The issue you'll get with slick tyres is that the front end changes direction so quickly, the back end can't keep up. Typically I find sports tyres and a fully customisable LSD with a high initial torque value makes classics drive quite nicely.

 

[PirovacBoy]

I have no preference for tyres - all I want is to get the car more manegeable

Am I incorrect in my simple logic that racing tyres = more grip = less likely to lose the rear end when turning? I just assumed stickier tyres would lead to improved handling as a result, but from your comment it looks like I'm bring too simplistic


Thanks to the other suggestions as well - I'll give the Jaguar tune suggested above a go and post back with the results

If your main goal is to keep the cars unique driving character and simply want it to be more stable then the one and only thing is to put a 2way differential/LSD on it.
Works like a Charme.
Don't know why exactly but it basically gets rid completely of its horrendous braking as well as cornering instability.